I think it is important the discussion continue - but I am not needed and for personal reasons I have decided it is time for me to leave this forum.

It is not because I am being pressured to leave by Lin Wood or anyone having to do with the investigation. I don't fear a lawsuit or anything like that. I don't fear anything anyone is saying about me. I have simply decided that I don't care for the situation I find myself in right now and have decided not to stay where I am uncomfortable.

(Yes, it was a sudden decision, but I think it is a proper one.)

The forums will remain open as long as the members are interested and supporting it. More discussions can open... if a member wants to see one opened, they need only ask. I will simply be the owner/moderator.

So now it is up to the rest of you to gather the news and post - - or let the discussion die.

I am not saying I will never return - never say never. I may again decide to post. But for now, it isn't my place.

You may see me elsewhere - I have decided to lend my support to Hatfill as far as Foster is concerned and I am still interested in the Butts case. But Ramsey.... I am going to close this door.

jameson

edited to add:

Rita Johnson wrote that she "was told" I had been threatened with obstruction of justice charges. She may have "heard" it - - could have been mumbling to herself for all I know... but I want to make it clear that no one has asked me to step down or threatened me with charges or a lawsuit if I continued. Those rumors are false, untrue, and lies.

As far as I know, law enforcement will continue to take my calls and listen to me with respect, interest and a willingness to work WITH me in an effort to solve this. They have in the past and I have NO reason to think they wouldn't again. My credibility is just fine where it counts.

I just want to make it clear I have not been asked to stop posting by ANYONE - no one threatened me in any way. I am not afraid of posting my opinions or facts and I don't take direction from anyone who is not wearing my skin.

Rita's information is wrong, nothing new there. Her credibility is nonexistant as far as I can tell - and that is a fact.

I know its been very long, and very tiring and how you want to leave, but there is a killer on the loose, and that is what he wants. People to keep leaving and leaving...

I do know, however, that YOU get more excited than anyone else when something new hits the scene. Recently, it was you who worked tirelessly to post the Carnes Judgement (April) and the Steve Thomas deposition (May), and did whatever you could to get to the bottom of the 911 tape/CD questions (July). Those were three huge events related to this case, and NO ONE was MORE interested in gettting the information out than you. So, while I am not SHOCKED, I AM mildly SURPRISED.

Thank you for leaving the forum open. If you were to close it, I am sure many of us would go into shock. I DO HOPE you will CONTINUE to post and veer our direction toward the TRUTH. I do understand that it would be unwise for you to continue to make the Ramsey case your full-time obsession.

Good Luck with whatever you choose to do with your time. I know you will make a very worthwhile contribution to whatever you choose to involve yourself with in the days ahead.

Your persistence in the quest for truth and justice is greatly appreciated.

I'm shocked, but of course I respect your decision. I hope that whatever is going on will resolve itself and we will hear from you again soon. No matter what you may think the board is NOT the same without you. It was your tenacious spirit that created it and has influenced us all. You will be missed.

:)

Bon Voyage, Jameson, and may the Good Lord bless you and keep you, may the road always rise to meet you, the wind always be at your back and may you be in Heaven an hour before the devil knows you're gone.

It's such a comical sideshow at all times when human hatred has taken center stage. They don't have a clue how ridiculous they appear. Gotta love it!

Take Care and Thank YOU for all you've done!

How does one love/hate someone they know only through the internet?

Jameson (not nice to talk about someone as if they aren't here) is neither a hero or a villain. She's a person who took an interest in an unsolved murder case and saw injustice and exposed it for all to see.

Whether you like her or not, she has accomplished a lot in the last six years. Jameson has helped show the bias of the Boulder police department, the press and TV. She has forced us all to take another look at the murder of JonBenet.

Rainsong

And I'll add, I have a ton of respect for anyone who could put up with all you have over the last nearly seven years. I don't always agree with what you say, or your methods, but I do respect your grit.

Rainsong

This case still needs you.

Peace to you and warm regards,

Justice_seeker

You'll still be top dog when you return, no matter how long you may be gone, so there is no compelling reason for you to jump in and respond to anything any of the net-loonies might post. Just let them talk to themselves for a while.

One thing, though - the get-together we planned long ago to celebrate the killer's capture is still on, as far as I am concerned, and I'm looking forward to everyone being there, including flame-broiled leaders. :)

I'm sorry you won't be posting. You add a lot to this forum.

Good luck to you. And remember, JW are a bunch of crackwhores.

Mikie is right. Take a long overdue break, step back for a while, sort through whatever it is that made you decide this and come back rested, renewed and with a fresh new outlook.

See you soon.

:) ;)

This case will be solved and when it is, I hope we can all meet and celebrate.

Enjoy your time away from this seemingly endless and heartbreaking case. I can understand why you would want to take a break, good luck to you in your future endeavors.

As a "temporary" (?) farewell gift to you I would like to present one of my favorite poems about "sight" and wish you "Bon Voyage" in another search for truth.

A lot of people seem concerned about you, and someone even wrote to ask me what was going on. Heck, Braveheart knew before me, and he's always the last to know. Although I'm sure you will be fine, I'm also sure some of us have been a thorn in your side, but never the kind Braveheart!

I will share some of my thoughts and ramblings with you about the forum. I have disagreed with you many times, and sometimes still do, but what the heck, I've enjoyed it. Some have enjoyed flaming the fires, but I never liked that part. I do "like" to debate here at times...it's much easier on the family too. Mikie once wrote I was stubborn "like a bull" or sumthin'. This has been one of the most stubborn groups I've ever worked with, so I feel right at home. Being stubborn can be good. Vacations are good, too.

You've sincerely done a great job documenting the Ramsey case. Hope you can also study up on the Westerfield case. :) It would be fun to see you admit I was right for once, but I sure ain't holding my breath on that one! Be well & happy. Take care of yourself and try to rest. Work hard, but have as much fun as you can, life is way too short. Listen to Summer...and observe the changing leaves of Fall.

If the good Lord is willing, and the creek doesn't rise too high, I'll fly in from time to time to see if everyone is still around & planning the "Victory" party. I hope so. I really want to "see" the day "SBTC" falls to the ground and is put in a nice little steel cage...forever.

Wherever you travel, I hope you find an easy path. Until then I'll hope to attend the Atlanta meeting. I also hope Guppy brings "Crow Pie" to the party for the guests who need it. As I recall, long ago Little Guppy had a good recipe for chicken that could be substituted. I'll bring the pineapple...Jams. So, don't worry.

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence..." Desiderata

Always,
Sparrow

American poet John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887) based the following poem on a fable which was told in India many years ago.

It was six men of Indostan

To learning much inclined,

Who went to see the Elephant

(Though all of them were blind),

That each by observation

Might satisfy his mind

The First approached the Elephant,

And happening to fall

Against his broad and sturdy side,

At once began to bawl:

"God bless me! but the Elephant

Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,

Cried, "Ho! what have we here

So very round and smooth and sharp?

To me ’tis mighty clear

This wonder of an Elephant

Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,

And happening to take

The squirming trunk within his hands,

Thus boldly up and spake:

"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant

Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,

And felt about the knee.

"What most this wondrous beast is like

Is mighty plain," quoth he;

" ‘Tis clear enough the Elephant

Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,

Said: "E’en the blindest man

Can tell what this resembles most;

Deny the fact who can

This marvel of an Elephant

Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun

About the beast to grope,

Than, seizing on the swinging tail

That fell within his scope,

"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant

Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan

Disputed loud and long,

Each in his own opinion

Exceeding stiff and strong,

Though each was partly in the right,

And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,

The disputants, I ween,

Rail on in utter ignorance

Of what each other mean,

And prate about an Elephant

Not one of them has seen!

PS Keep searching for the truth and you will find it.

By Amy Hebert, Camera Staff Writer
September 18, 2003

One of the few remaining "Web sleuths" who tried for years to help solve the JonBenet Ramsey case over the Internet is hanging up her cyber hat.

Susan Bennett, the North Carolina woman known online as Jameson245, said she sought to bring balance when people she called a "lynch mob" were accusing John and Patsy Ramsey of killing their 6-year-old daughter. Bennett said that's no longer critical since Boulder County District Attorney Mary Keenan took over the investigation into the December 1996 murder.

"I have full faith that they will solve it, so there's really nothing else for us to do," Bennett said in a phone interview Tuesday. "I think that the lynch mob is dead and that people now realize the Ramseys are innocent and the investigators are on the right course"

Bennett befriended John and Patsy Ramsey through her advocacy of their innocence. But she betrayed their trust last year by selling transcripts of a police interview with them to the National Enquirer for $40,000, said Lin Wood, the Ramseys' attorney.

In the message she posted to her "Jameson's WebbSleuths" site announcing she was leaving the case, Bennett wrote that she was not under pressure from Wood or anyone involved with the investigation.

Wood said he had nothing to do with the decision and had appreciated that Bennett was a "source of fair comment on the Internet about the Ramsey case." He said the National Enquirer sale was the only time he had ever taken issue with her.

He said it seems like Internet traffic on the case is diminishing in its intensity and numbers now that it's in the hands of "fair and objective investigators."

Several sites once dedicated to the case have disappeared over the years. "Mrs. Brady," whose site also supported the Ramseys, has not made her "daily update" on the case since Jan. 17.

But Utah resident Tricia Griffith, whose site forumsforjustice.org targets the parents as suspects, said there are still "incredibly dedicated people" online committed to finding the truth about the case.

She said the reason Ramsey supporters are going offline is not just because Keenan publicly agreed with a federal judge's ruling in March that evidence in a lawsuit against the Ramseys was more consistent with the possibility an intruder killed JonBenet.

"In my view they're going away because they don't have anything left to talk about," Griffith said. "The Ramsey supporters can't argue anymore because every one of their points has been refuted."

Griffith's site has gathered 1,092 signatures since February for a petition asking Gov. Bill Owens to appoint a special prosecutor for the case, alleging that Keenan's office is biased in favor of the Ramseys.

Except for her agreement with the March ruling, Keenan has maintained a consistent no-comment policy since taking over the case from the Boulder Police Department in December. Keenan hired investigator Tom Bennett to work solely on the Ramsey case and has asked him not to comment, either.

Bennett said the fact that a special investigator is on the case and the investigation is going on "with no leaks" is another reason her "voice of balance and reason" is no longer needed.

http://www.bouldernews.com/bdc/city_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2422_2272209,00.html

True, the voice of balance and reason is 'no longer needed' but it has always been appreciated and will always be desired.

In my opinion--that statement is codswallop. If anything, it's the other way around.

Rainsong

HUH?

The gossip mongerers have been particularly angry with Jameson for exposing their lies and false conclusions and continue to bring up the VanDam case to redirect attention from them having been proven so very wrong in the Ramsey case.

When moderators/administrators tell posters who oppose the status quo that "they will be watching you", the content of the posts is disregarded and the message made abundantly clear to the remaining members: swim with us or we'll ensure that you drown.

I have faith in them as well. This case could have been solved many years ago with the approach they are now taking, so I'll keep my fingers crossed that it won't be much longer.

You did GOOD.

I have simply decided that I don't care for the situation I find myself in right now and have decided not to stay where I am uncomfortable.

I've been gone for a couple of weeks....what did I miss?

Good luck with what you plan on doing..

Sunkist

Nothing that would answer the question we are all asking ourselves.

"I have simply decided that I don't care for the situation I find myself in right now and have decided not to stay where I am uncomfortable."

Since we are able to eliminate Lin Wood, lawsuits, and the BORG, that pretty much brings it down to a personal issue, possibly one that involves the relationship between jams and the Ramseys. I must emphasize, though, that it is only speculation on my part, and is based solely on the above quote.

Jams, if you would like to elaborate, we are all ears. :)

I think the absence of (new) Ramsey case news has contributed to the tendency for all forum discussion to lapse into jello. Many posters are not overly enthusiastic about rehashing or reanalysing the "old" news so forum discussions are bogged down in wheel-spinning or gossip.

What is there to stimulate someone like Jameson who has been "here" EVERY DAY since day one and has heard it all before time and again?

Jameson posts the highlights of the case (with the "newbie" in mind) and we half-heartedly respond and instead open new threads that sometimes take a mindless direction.

Right now, the forums that seem to 'flourish' are the forums that are happy and content to gossip, rehash improbable conclusions, bash Jameson and/or the Ramseys, friends of the Ramseys, those employed by the Ramseys, or those working in a different direction from the focus of the BPD. Most are like coffee klatches - a place to plop yourself down and speak freely and irresponsibly.

My take on Jameson's discomfort is that she is tired of this. It became boring and redundant months ago. It has become like "work" to try to direct the focus of the forum to fact-based threads.

Have you noticed the thread titles that have the most 'views'? (Go to the Archives, page 45 for a sampling as the "Current" page is a reflection of the forum's activity since Jameson "left the building". Looking back a few weeks or months will show you that the hardest hit threads are often the "Gossip" threads.)

I think the direction most forum discussion has taken is the "discomfort" Jameson is referring to (but, maybe not; only Jameson knows for sure).

I don't think the attacks from the lunatic fringe have any impact on her at all, at least nothing that would cause her to bow out of the Ramsey case. She knows she is right, and I think in the long run that will keep her going, as it will the rest of us. The fact of the matter is, most of the oppostion is hiding, and there aren't any leaks coming out of the Boulder County D.A.'s office. We've talked everything to death, and many of us (put me at the top of the list) are sick and tired of arguing with the BORG. So, it is time for a slowdown, but not a shutdown. It would be too hard to get started again, and other forums will never be a substitute for Webbsleuths.

I think we should try to keep the forum going - limping along if necessary - until we have news. I have no doubt that jameson will be here when that time comes, because the effects of the kryptonite she was apparently exposed to won't last forever.

Over the last nearly seven years, Jameson has kept this forum alive and provided news on the murder investigation. She's maintained a stance of innocent until proven guilty from day one. Along the way she's been called every name in the book--plus some. She's held up better than most of us would have done--certainly better than I.

The sheer number of hours Jameson has dedicated to the facts of the case should give her the right to step away when she deems it necessary or right, without her being questioned let alone vilified as she has been elsewhere.

When she's ready, she'll be back.

Rainsong

1 - the decision was personal and the reasons would not be shared. Obviously something (or things) did prompt my decision, but that has nothing to do with the Ramsey investigation. The reasons, made public, can't get justice for JonBenét, and I see no reason to share that information with the world.

2 - I felt that everything I had done was reasonable, honorable and morally right. I have NO regrets over MY actions. If I failed at times, it wasn't for lack of trying. I was devoted to my efforts and regret nothing.

3 - I felt that the things I wanted to see accomplished HAD been accomplished.
a. The lynch mob has been quelled (except for a few who I think must be mentally ill to be still standing there wanting to crucify the Ramseys after seeing Lou Smit's evidence and reading the statements by Federal Judge Carnes and DA Keenan).
and
b. The investigation is now in the hands of a special investigator and team who I believe is dedicated, honest and capable of solving this.

4 - Amy misquoted me when she wrote, "'I have full faith that they will solve it, so there's really nothing else for us to do,' Bennett said..." What I said was that there is "nothing to do now but WAIT." I feel my words were twisted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I let Lin Wood know about the call from Amy and he told me he thought he would simply make no comment. I urged him to speak to her - - partly because the letter he wrote condemning me when I made a decision he disapproved of is still on the net and there was nothing out there really showing that we had come to an understanding on that - - agreed to disagree nicely on the decision I made to share the tapes with AMI. (Lin understands now that I did NOT "betray" the Ramseys - I wanted to replace a book of hateful tabloid stories with one of truth. He still doesn't agree with the decision, but he understands it and we buried that hatchet long ago. I doubt he would use the word "betray" now, it isn't appropriate. He didn't agree with the decision, he knows it wasn't a betrayal.)

So he spoke to her. And she wrote about that interview...

"...she betrayed their trust last year by selling transcripts of a police interview with them to the National Enquirer for $40,000, said Lin Wood........... He said the National Enquirer sale was the only time he had ever taken issue with her."

Interesting enough, there are no direct quotes - - but you will see some direct quotes from Lin in a minute - - - direct quotes from an email he sent to me.

The email that follows is shared with Lin's permission, Lin obviously feels his interview was mishandled, twisted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

9-18-03
 
Jameson:
 
I just read the Daily Camera article. I knew if I talked to the reporter that the Enquirer issue would overshadow my other comments. I praised you for your courage in the early years and for your major contribution in exposing the fraud of Don Foster. I emphasized that you were different from the other Internet "Ramsey junkies" because you were truly personally involved in working on the case, not just taking a position or making an argument on the Internet. I commented on your forum's excellent work in recent months on the 911 tape.
 
When the story did not run on Wednesday, and Amy called me back on Thursday, I decided to comment to demonstrate to you that the Enquirer issue did not have to be the last word on my feelings about your contributions to the Ramseys and JonBenet.
 
Reading the article, I should have gone with my first instinct and refrained from comment.
 
Lin
 
L. Lin Wood
L. LIN WOOD, P.C.
Suite 2140
The Equitable Building
100 Peachtree Street, NW
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
Phone: 404.522.1713
Fax: 404.522.1716
E-mail: llwood@linwoodlaw.com
Internet: www.linwoodlaw.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Interestingly enough, Amy decided to expand the story - called a poster who is part of the BORG (pronounce that "lynch mob") to get HER take on the situation - - but never called one of my posters or supporters.

Amy wrote,"Tricia Griffith, whose site forumsforjustice.org targets the parents as suspects, said there are still 'incredibly dedicated people' online committed to finding the truth about the case."

Boy oh boy - - read that again and note where the quotation marks are - - is this the sign of a BORG publication or not?

Tricia is not talking about people searching for the truth, she is talking about a few incredibly dedicated lynch mob members who are still accusing the Ramseys of horrible things with NO evidence that anything they say is true.

Some will swear on a bible that Geraldo played the 911 tape on his show long ago - they HEARD it. John yelling at Burke. They HEARD IT! Geraldo denies it was ever played on his program (he is right) so they are saying he is lying about that. Delusion is their middle name - - all of them.

Tricia is quoted further:

"In my view they're going away because they don't have anything left to talk about," Griffith said. "The Ramsey supporters can't argue anymore because every one of their points has been refuted."

My response is this- - BULLSHIT! "They" are going nowhere that I am aware of. I am leaving - - one supporter is leaving. Big deal. New information is scarce so the discussion is slow, but it has continued. On many forums.

Tricia's second statement is simply absurd.

The DA has stated for the record that the weight of the evidence points to an intruder. The BORG can deny the facts and argue using suppositions, innuendo, myths, lies, and flames, but they haven't made a case against the Ramseys. For Amy to give credibility to Tricia's delusions was simply wrong.

The resulting story was, IMO, a nasty piece of work.

Lin was right, the right decision would have been to make no comment - the poison pen doesn't need quotes.

The story published was shameful - - a typical BORG endeavor.

The Boulder Camera should be ashamed.

I am asking that this letter be published as a letter to the editor, uncut. I doubt it will happen. But I can assure you that the letter WILL be published online exactly as written here.

jameson

Posted by jams on Dec-10-00 at 11:17 AM (EST)

The Ramseys will never be arrested for the murder of JonBenét Ramsey; clearly there is too much exculpatory evidence. The urgency to protect innocent people from being jailed on trumped up charges is gone.

The investigation continues, and I have great respect for the work being done by people like Ollie Gray and Lou Smit - - but until a special investigator is brought on, I think we may as well admit the chances of solving this are between slim and none. The BPD won't do the work -- - and some people are wisely refusing to participate in their mis-investigation any longer.

Evidence has been mishandled and lost by the Boulder authorities. The BPD has turned away people who say they may have information dealing with this open murder investigation. Witnesses have openly stated that they felt the cops didn't want to talk about any suspect ot named Ramsey. Right or wrong, people don't trust the Boulder police anymore, they are unwilling to work with the Boulder Police and when they are told they either work with the Boulder cops or forget it - - people are walking away.

I have informed Alex Hunter that I know of some evidence files that are being withheld from the BPD - - specifically DNA on three very reasonable suspects. I will tell them exactly where those envelopes and files are when and if a special prosecutor is appointed. I FAXed this to the DA some time back and received no response.

For those concerned about the evidence - it is properly stored, I called Henry Lee himself and went over this with him. He said he couldn't accept or test evidence unless it went through the BPD - - I advised him that wasn't an option and, thankfully, the gentleman went over proper storage of evidence with me. I got the feeling I was not the only one who had had that conversation with him.

Since Henry Lee and Alex Hunter are personal friends at this point, I think it is fair to assume Lee has told Hunter about the conversation - and I hope it convinces Hunter that this is not a joke.

As you can see, I have once again gotten involved in a way that might stir some controversy - but I am very serious here - I will not aid any more BPD bungling. I believe the case can be solved, the evidence is there. I am hoping that DA Alex Hunter will request that a special investigation be started - remove the BPD from the equation.

So what have I said?

The exculpatory evidence is there - the Ramseys did not kill their daughter.

People no longer trust the BPD and they are unwilling to carry information or evidence to them because they fear it will be ignored, mishandled or "lost".

There is evidence being withheld - the BPD will NOT be handed that evidence. That evidence is not in one place but all are safe. When a special investigator is brought in, I will tell them exactly where it is. None of it is now in my personal possession.

Will this letter make any difference? I don't know - - probably not. But i carefully thought out the pros and cons of releasing this letter and I can't see the downside.

No matter what side of the fence people are on, I hope they will join me in calling for a special investigation in the Ramsey case. Investigate all the leads, all the evidence - let the truth be exposed and let the chips fall where they may.

Written with all sincerity - let the chips fall where they may,

jameson
December 10th, 2000

Amazing what a month off can do.

I am not going to be here 24/7 like I was before, there is no need for that, but I will continue to moderate the forum, will start threads intending to keep the evidence fresh in our minds and keep the brainstorming going - - it could prove important.

People ARE still reading this forum - it is still considered THE place to go for the truth.

We welcome all POV but demand honesty, civility and no spam.

Home, sweet home.

Ain't life great?