Yes, the one sample having 10 markers so it can be submitted to CODIS is big news--and important...and I would love to have heard Kane's take on that. At the time of the GJ hearings, they kept saying the DNA was inconclusive....and NOT a DNA case.

I would have brought up jannscottlive, if given the opportunity.

Anyway, if you are out there Lin, thanks so much for spending a little time with our members, and for showing support for jams and the rest of us. It really means a lot.

@%!^&O#%!!!

Rainsong

Yes, Lin's visit to the forum was a show of support for jameson and the WebbSleuths forum. We have been here for the truth for a long time and that has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated.

I was surprised when he said the DNA is probably saliva - but I don't think it reflects badly on what we had before - we are willing to grow with advancements and upgrade the information as it comes in.

I am very happy DNA science is advancing and the DNA in this case might be used to identify the killer.

Thanks to Lou Smit, Steve Ainsworth, Trip DeMuth, Dr.Doberson, John Douglas, Mary Keenan, and many others, I believe justice will prevail for JonBenet Ramsey and her family. Heroes are few and far between these days, but these have certainly earned a chapter in my book.

We have some great posters here. It has been hard at times to swim against the tide of Borg while surrounded by sharks, thieves, and lies. But, at the end of the journey we will be stronger, and happy we fought back with truth. Jams, you've done a great job keeping the forum open. It has truly been a beacon of light in the darkness.

Go Team!

I am often viewed as a "Ramsey supporter" but have always felt that all I do is oppose a nonsensical witchhunt. The Ramseys are mere incidental beneficiaries of our efforts to bring a measure of common sense to the investigation.

> Heroes are few and far between these days, but
>these have certainly earned a chapter in my book.
Yes. There is no question that much of the forensic evidence would not have been collected but for the persistent efforts of Trip DeMuth who was opposed to the cursory, minimal efforts that were intended since the BPD had already 'determined' forensic evidence from the home was useless since the parents could simply explain it away by saying they lived there. However, it should also be remembered that heroes include amongst their ranks those who post on the forum. It is this forum and our constant whittling away at the lies that has also aided the quest for justice.

I'm with you on that. The line was drawn and I ended up here because I certainly didn't belong on the other side. If they could discuss issues reasonably and stick to facts instead of all their crazy speculation I wouldn't be confined to a "side" of the argument. I just HATE seeing anyone persecuted with lies and misinformation.

Rainsong

Remember this, from an email to LP on ll/25/02 from LW? (not to bring up past history or anything....)

"You will have to make your own decision about your future relationship, if any, with Ms. B------."

Lin Wood is definitely a hero and I feel sure with the good people surrouonding this case now, JonBenet and the Ramsey's will get their Justice.

Btw, I think you're all hero's as well. Jams, Maikai, B, Sparrow, DonB, Lilac, Slapfish, Rainsong, Margoo, Mikie, Guppie, LovelyP, Peridot, mBm and many more of you.

Thanks to the people who have recently joined in the quest for this beautiful little girl. This child who should be about to turn 13 years old and entering the 8th grade. Instead, has a headstone and a tree to hang angels in her memory. It should not be!

I wonder what she would be like to day and how many accomplishments she would have. It's not fair, damn it.:(

The killer HAS TO be found. HAS TO BE!

Well, I guess I've made a few elsewhere barf (LOL). Funny, I knew as I typed it that it might somehow come back at me. If you can lift your heads out of the barf bags for a minute, let me tell you that that the greeting "oh exalted one" was a facetious reference to some previous chat conversation involving several participants.

While you kiss the feet of Steve Thomas and hang on his every word (send him money, no less, and some of you WORK FOR HIM), let me say I do not know Lin Wood; I have never met Lin Wood; I will probably never meet Lin Wood; never communicated with Lin Wood privately; never sent him nor offered him one red cent; and respect him solely on the basis of his work in this case. I admire the way he has handled the litigation of this case; the success he has encountered; the apologies he has made; and the way he handles himself publicly. I admire all of those strengths.

Although it has never been my goal to be considered a "hero", I do appreciate your recognition. Back in the late 90's, I was a regular (poster). But there were some things going on on the board that I found it hard to stomach, i.e., posts from a guy who called himself "Bluefire". I found my blood boiling at some of the things he said (he had some very strange, anti-American views.) When I replied to his posts, a regular war broke out so I thought it better if I just faded away. Then, after 9/11, THAT consumed my interest; that is, until the Laci Peterson case.

Even though I never lost interest in the JBR case and always believed in the Rams innocense, I didn't resume posting until this past June, when I started posting on the Laci forum. So I've missed out on a lot that has happened over that short time span, but I'm glad that Jameson has kept up the good work and that the forum is as strong as ever in its support for the Ramseys. It's great that they found Lin Wood. If only they had the benefit of his intelligence from the beginning, I believe he would have drawn in the reins on the BPD and Steve Thomas, and more than likely the case would be solved by now.

Thanks Ashley, but I'm no hero, I'm just a minion :)

I came much too late to this case to be a hero. The REAL heroes are the ones who were here in the darkest days when the spin was at it's height. The ones who have suffered insults, indimidation and threats. The ones who have put their own personal reputation on the line and their lives on hold to nurture the flame of truth. The ones who didn't give up, even when it seemed an impossible battle.

You know who you are. Thanks

We all make decisions every day. I made a decision to make the tapes available to AMI. When Lin found out about that, (because I told him) he made a decision to lash out at me publicly. Some people stood by me, others did not - - their decisions.

We all live with the decisions we make.

Lin and I have obviously mended our relationship. More decisions.

And you have always been here - - your decision and, frankly, no one's business but your own.

So yeah, you can hang out here - - Lin won't care - - but the BORG will!

Welcome back! I was so happy to see you posting again!

I wonder whatever happened to Bluefire? What a jerk he was! He made my blood boil as well. I really thought he was a child molester. Just my opinion, I'm not accusing him of it,,,, but everytime I read his posts that's all I could think of! I hope I was wrong about that.

I agree about LW, if only the Ramsey's had him from the beginning, things may have been very different. But he's with them now. I'm confident the Ramsey's will see justice and be vindicated.

Now, I'm testing my memory here, but aren't you retired LE. That may be someone else! It has been a looong time.

Would give the name of our department, but I've posted so much about how LE can be so corrupt and I'm afraid I might be recognized by some of my fellow workers. LOL They're really ALL not that corrupt; but they can be so darned obstinate and tunnel visioned (if that's a word)!! Actually, I worked with a great group of officers. Couldn't have asked for better treatment!! Glad we weren't in the same class as BPD!!

Though even in the BPD I'm sure there are some who felt things should have been done in a different manner. Its terrible when the police have a vendetta. The BPD may not be able to find their manuals but they can sure write great press releases attacking anyone who dares to criticize them.

I'm glad that chapter is behind you----it was a bit shocking at first, until more details came out, but I thought you either went temporarily insane (not likely).....or there was more to it, and no intent to ever hurt the Ramseys.

There had to be some concern on LW's part that the perception would be either he or the Ramseys sold the tapes.....or Darnay was involved. I'm sure he was royally po'd because of the civil case....and the sale of the tapes possibly jeopardizing that. He's a good lawyer, and defender of his clients....and it goes beyond the typical lawyer/client relationship--he has a passion, IMO, for his cases.

Few have passion, Lin and I both do. And it shows.

I am just glad we both believe JonBenét was killed by an intruder. Our differences may be upsetting at times, to both of us, but we are both working for the same outcome - identifying the intruder and seeing him brought to justice.

That chapter - the burning bridge - is over. No one knows the full story; there are so many questions in that chapter. Since solving that puzzle could not help identify the killer, I personally intend to just leave it where it is.