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Candy
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Aug-16-06, 10:20 PM (EST)
 
"Waiting"
 
   I'm waiting for SOMEONE to link this dude to BOULDER, COLORADO. Alabama and California aren't close to Boulder.


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Candy
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Aug-16-06, 10:22 PM (EST)
 
1. "RE: Brother Nate"
In response to message #0
 
   His brother Nate was on Greta. He said he was researching a book on JonBenet, and the Polly Klaas killings. He had lived in Pentaluma. Nate believes he will be cleared. The ex-wife is saying she was with him during the 96 holidays.


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Margoo
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Aug-16-06, 10:36 PM (EST)
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2. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   Me too.
He may have been in Boulder - he didn't have to live there to go there.
Was he interviewed for a job, using the "holidays" to travel there?
Does he have friends or family there?
Does his wife? (it sounds like he was still with his wife back then, but probably only had one toddler at the time)
Something's tying him in - to the point of reporting a "confession". Did the DNA collected for allegations of a sex crime (in CA???) wind up being compared to the Ramsey DNA? Did he feel cornered and "confess"?
I don't know.
But, I do find the wording interesting - "confessed to certain elements of the crime."

... one law enforcement official told The Associated Press that Boulder police had tracked him down online

... Karr had been communicating periodically with somebody in Boulder who had been following the case and cooperating with law enforcement officials.

... the Ramseys gave police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect.

... Karr was initially taken into custody in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges. But Thai police Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul said he was unaware of any criminal charges the suspect faced in Thailand.

... Thai police said Karr was arrested at his apartment in downtown Bangkok at the request of U.S. officials, and was being held until they arrived. Suwat said he expected U.S. officials to take Karr back to America in the next few days.

Wood said he and the Ramseys "have been totally amazed and impressed with the professionalism of law enforcement" under Lacy's direction. Lacy became district attorney in 2001.

Lawrence Schiller, author of the 1999 book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town" about the case, said Wednesday he understood the man had been on a list of sexual offenders who were suspects for a long time.

"There are a lot of facts about her actual death that the public does not know." Schiller said. "If he did confess to some facts of the murder, to reveal those facts of the case, that would finish the puzzle."

Among the facts he said were not generally known was the murder weapon and what the killer did with it. ??? Interesting


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-jonbenet-ramsey,0,3333636.story?page=2&coll=ny-football-headlines


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spriggy
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Aug-17-06, 02:29 PM (EST)
 
3. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   I believe totally in the Ramsey's innocence however, I am not convinced this guy is the guilty one.

Did you see his interview? He seems odd and not "well". My oldest son is autistic and I saw some symptoms in Karr that were similar to me.

I hope the law enforcement aren't just going on an obsessed, child porn addicted that has confessed.

SURELY, they have much.. much more evidence they haven't shared with the public yet about this guy.

We shall see.


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LM
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Aug-17-06, 08:00 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   I just saw on the news a bit of tape I hadn't heard at all today on CNN. It was of JK walking down a hall surrounded by officials and he said "I did not kill Jon Benet. Her death was an accident."
I didn't hear him actually say that he didn't kil her till the evening news. Did anyone else hear that?


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LM
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Aug-17-06, 08:11 PM (EST)
 
5. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   The actual quote was "I didn't kill anyone..." So why are people and the media saying he confessed? Just trying to attract attention?


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MissMich
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Aug-18-06, 00:39 AM (EST)
 
6. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   It is very early, as far as we know, in the investigation of this man. I think it's obvious he wants attention, the question is why.

One thing I watched was the direction of his eyes as he spoke. He always looked to the right. That is the direction people typically look to when they are lying. They look to the left, typically, as they are trying to remember.


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spriggy
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Aug-18-06, 01:18 AM (EST)
 
7. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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Karr did say while sitting in the chair that " I was with JonBenet when she died." I saw and heard that several times.

I think that was the confession they are talking about.


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MissMich
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Aug-18-06, 02:49 AM (EST)
 
8. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   You are absolutely right. I watched and saw his statement, the same as you, over and over.

"Karr did say while sitting in the chair that, 'I was with
JonBenet when she died.' I saw and heard that several times.

I think that was the confession they are talking about."

Please forgive me, however; I don't understand your point.

I have some understanding of law. And just by him saying, "I was with JonBenet when she died," does not say, "I killed her."

I would love for his statement to give us closure, but all he theoretically confessed to, with this statement, was that he was there when she died.

I think you might agree with me, I don't know, I hate to assume. My question would be, "Who are you speaking about when you say?...'they are talking about.'" No attorney, in their right mind, would go to court with such an assumptive confession. Especially in this case.


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DragonFly2
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Aug-18-06, 10:22 AM (EST)
 
9. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   Problems with JMK's "confession" and other problems:

1. First, it is reported that he said he DRUGGED and had sex with her. There were no drugs found during autopsy. Also, no semenal fluid found within- no evidence of penetration, although some slight vaginal injury from what I recall...

HOWEVER, HE DID NOT SAY THIS DIRECTLY TO REPORTERS- A THAI OFFICIAL PROVIDED THAT "STATEMENT"....POSSIBLY A MIS=TRANSLATION PROBLEM OR THE THAI OFFICIAL JUST WANTING TO GET ON CAMERA. AS FOR SEMEN...THIS NUT-JOB'S IDEA OF "SEX" COULD BE PRACTICALLY ANYTHING.

2. Another problem...his ex says he was with her during that Christmas...in Alabama.

HOWEVER, I READ ON FOXNEWS THIS MORNING THAT SHE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER XMAS OF 1996....SHE JUST SIMPLY SAID SHE CANNOT RECALL A XMAS WHEN HE WAS NOT WITH THEM OR LEFT SHORTLY AFTER. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN A SPECIFIC MEMORY, AS IN SOMETHING LIKE "I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER WATCHING CNN WITH HIM ABOUT THE JONBENET MURDER WHEN THE NEWS FIRST BROKE". THAT WOULD BE A REAL PROBLEM.

SHE ALSO SAID SHE CANNOT DEFEND HIM...SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

3. Probably the biggest obstacle is the fact that this guy is seriously mentally ill...or seriously crafty...who knows what kind of "straight" answer they'll ever get from him?

THE DNA WILL EITHER PROVE IT OR DISPROVE IT. WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT.
WE'VE WAITED THIS LONG....WE CAN WAIT A LITTLE LONGER, RIGHT?


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pendraggin
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Aug-18-06, 11:08 AM (EST)
 
10. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   From Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/

Thai police back off account

The coverage on the Fox news television station is that Thai police are saying now that Karr did NOT claim to have drugged JonBenet or picked her up from school - two supposed statements that were problematic.

I don't know if there was a language problem, or just why those things were claimed earlier.

MSNBC is also talking about this change.

Oddly, Court TV still hasn't picked up on it.


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pendraggin
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Aug-18-06, 12:03 PM (EST)
 
11. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
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   Court TV is now talking about the Thai official's change.


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LM
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Aug-18-06, 05:46 PM (EST)
 
12. "RE:Points to ponder while waiting"
In response to message #11
 
   It just seems to me that the media will say and do anything (including purposely not showing the part I was talking about when on ABC they showed JK walking down the hall saying "I never killed anyone...") Of course this is obvious, them just trying to have as many listeners as possible tune in.

Just like profiler JOhn Douglas said, it's getting a little discouraging.

Can't wait to find out what happens. It's very sad.

On another topic, did anything ever come out about the pineapple found in JB's stomach?


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