Bruce Jones - attorney for Linda Arndt
Theodore Halaby - attorney for Koby, Beckner and the City of Boulder

Linda Arndt made it clear she wanted the interview to be over by noon.

(I will insert page numbers periodically, will not write what every page was concerned with.)

Page 5 - Linda Arndt told the attorneys she was taking Effexor, an antidepressant, had been since November of 1999. (75
milligrams a day)

Page 7 - Arndt stated that "...leaks from BPD stated false things about me."
She said they refused to clear up the misinformation and wouldn't let her either.

The only other person she felt was placed in a similar situation was Larry Mason.

Page 11 - Members of the BPD were told not to speak to media - - only Eller and those above him were to speak to the press.
Arndt indicated that if anyone leaked, they were facing removal from the case - - as had happened to Larry Mason (for
something he didn't do.)

Page 16 - Arndt said she didn't speak to anyone about the case while she was working on the investigation. In August of 1999,
she decided to go public with her story and she contacted Shelly Ross, a producer with Good Morning America. (Apparently
Ross had tried to get her to talk earlier but she had refused - - when she decided to go public, she contacted Ross.) Ross said
Arndt would be allowed to tell her side of the story.

Page 20 - - She was not paid for the interview.

Arndt never spoke to Elizabeth Vargas until about a half-hour before the interview.

Arndt - as of March 2000, had never seen the program that aired - her interview. She said it was just too emotional - "Too
hard to watch."

She said yes, she did say on that program that she believed John Ramsey murdered his daughter. She determined that when
she saw him carry JonBenét's body up the stairs.

Page 27 - she was talking about how she was coming to the conclusion that John killed JonBenét, and she said, "...I was told
that there was the practiced note on the note pad that John Ramsey had given earlier that day and that the parents were
involved." She then went on to say that many things made her feel John did the crime - - including his behavior, his behavior
and his comments when he brought JonBené up the stairs.

Page 29 - Arndt said she feels Patsy helped stage the cover-up.

Page 33 - - asked if she "...took all reasonable efforts under the circumstances to preserve the crime scene?" she responded,
"Yes."

Page 35 - She thought more would be covered in the interview - wanted to thank certain people for their support - felt she got
tired and could have done better.

Page 38 - Arndt wanted to talk about
1. actual events of 12/26
2. internal politics at BPD
3. how the focus got lost in the investigation

Page 40 - she spoke about how - within the first week - members of the BPD were talkking about how they might write a book
about this case. She also said that people were assigned because of relationships they had with others in the department - there
was a lot of favoritism going on.

On page 41-42 there is this exchange -
Arndt - " There was quite a strong message sent out when Mason was summarily dismissed from the investigative team. And
then it was known the next day that what he was charged with he never did, but still, he was put through hell for 6 months and
went through an IA. And it was known that he never did what was alleged.
The politics involved people in supervisory positions able to see balck and white and not able to see anything that wasn't
tangible. And if a person's opinion on the investigative team was in the minority, that opinion was dismissed.

Q. Does that include your opinions?

A. It included mine, all of the Department of Social Services, including some other people.

Q. So you were - you felt you were advocating certain opinions in these investigative team meetings that were minority opinions,
and, therefore, disregarded?

A. It was not - - my opinion was not the opinion of the command structure at the Boulder Police Department, and no, my
opinion wasn't, was never heard nor heeded.

Q. So to repeat my question, you felt that opinions you were expressing in these investigative team meetings were being
disregarded and were minority opinions.

A. Opinions and information, yes.

Arndt said that she wanted to see the possibility of incest studied but they wouldn't follow her lead.

(But other sources indicate that they DID check on that - - so I don't know what Arndt is referring to.)

Page 48 - Arndt starts talking about how she spoke to Anne Bardach - she wouldn't tell Bardach anything -- just told her that
the only thing she had right about HER (Arndt) was tht she had been at the Ramsey house on the 26th of December, 1996.

Apparently Arndt had a friend named Lisa - no-last-name from Lafayette, CO who was close to Bardach and knew Bardach
met with her Deep Throat for 8 hours on July 4th, 1997 - Arndt believed that was Thomas.

Page 55 - Arndt was telling local reporters that she was being misrepresented - - they didn't seem to care - - said they had
well-placed sources and believed those stories.

Page 58 - - Arndt said Allie Krupski and Krupski's sources preferred to talk to her because Thomas and Gosage were
'strong-arming people' .

Page 60 - - Arndt said she refused to talk to Larry Schiller. She was also contacted by Charlie Brennan, Craig lewis and john
South.

Page 62 - Interesting quote - "Schiller got to be so annoyed by Thomas' frequent contacts that he'd tell him to stop calling him."
She didn't hear that from Schiller, but from Mimi Wesson - she is in the deposition as an attorney but I thought she was a CU
professor. I know she is also an author -- and on her home page, her photo is done by Judith Phillips.

Page 63 - Arndt names Thomas as the source for Schiller's book - but she doesn't have evidence that is correct.

Arndt speaks about her meeting with Anne Bardach - - says it lasted about 5 minutes - she didn't see anything Bardach had
written - - Bardach just spoke to her about the article. Arndt said that Bardach had HER part in it wrong but wouldn't "talk
case" with Bardach.

Arndt said she never kept a scrapbook or file onthe media reports.

Arndt repeats that she believes Steve Thomas was Bardach's source but can't prove it. She felt that the negative things about
her that appeared in Bardach's article came from Thomas. The attorney seemed to want her to add Koby's name here, but
Arndt didn't do that.

Page 77 -
Q. "...you're not alleging that Tom Koby leaked this information about you trying to commit suicide to any member of the
media. Is that a correct statement?"
A. "I'm saying I don't know if he did or didn't."
On page 80 she again puts that information going from Koby to Durgin to White.

Page 78 - the only person Arndt is willing to say leaked INVESTIGATION information to the media is Steve Thomas.

Page 81 - Arndt said it was clear others were leaking to the media but she says she has no information that Beckner OR Eller
spoke to the media about her.

Pages 83 - 85 - deal with Arndt approaching Koby asking him to defend her inthe media - and his refusal to do wo. Linda
Arndt had an attorney by that time - - someone she hired after talking to a union representative named Mike Pease.

Page 86 - 92 - By April of 1997, Arndt was finding it difficult to work with Koby, Eller and Wickman. She was being forced
to answer to all of them, not just one and said that was "unprecedented". The others didn't have to do that - she felt it was
inefficient and discrimination. She specifically says Trujillo was not treated that way.

Page 94 -97 - said Wickman and Eller were abrasive - - would yell at her. They would each question her and not speak to
each other - said Koby didn't yell but he accused he of not being respectful. She also reported being excluded from meetings -
and while the FBI people would talk to the other detectives, they would not speak to her - - she felt because those above her
didn't want her involved.

Page 98 - Marilyn Kruegel, from the Employee Assistance Program tried to go to bat for her aand reported back that her
concerns were well-founded. Wickman, Eller and Koby were not her friends.

Page 99 - - Trujillo had a closer, better relationship with Wickman.

Page 100 - 104 - Arndt felt isolated as soon as the day Mason was removed from the case - - that was 1/5/1997 - - she didn't
feel she was being respected or taken as seriously as she deserved to be.

Pages 105-110 - This dealt with Linda Arndt and Sergeant Wickman not being in contact with each other - - they accused
each other of being distant, not staying in communication. At first Arndt seems to say it was all his fault - - but on page 110, she
says she stopped trying to communicate.

Page 116 - 119 - Back to when Arndt decided John Killed JonBenét - - she had been in the house for about 5 hours - had
taped off JBR's bedroom, she denies that she "lost track of John" or that he left the house - she says she merely noted that she
saw him reading the mail. She said that before the body was found, she had NO suspicions that John was John might be a
murderer.

Page 120 Linda lists the "evidence"
No forced entry
no tracks
no break-in
no sounds heard during the night
John was last to see JBR
JR's behavior
JR's bahevior with his wife
behaviors of others
the ransom note
she says there is more she can't list

Biggie - - how he carried her up from the basement. She didn't know how he SHOULD have carried the body, but he held her
in front of him, his arms around her upper legs, her head above his.
She then said, "I didn't know what John Ramsey's reaction or behavior would be." and so she feared for everyone's safety.

Page 124 - Arndt - "I was prepared to defend the rest of the people in the home." She said she feared for her own safety - -
but on page 127, she says that threat she felt did not last throughout the day - "It was in that moment."

Asked if she later felt a threat from JR, she says yes but notes that it was "indirectly". Asked to explain, she said that Eller
advised her that she needed to be aware that she "was a key witness"..."knew information no one else knew"... "had to be
careful and take a different route home every day"... "be extra careful... people would be willing to kill me."

She said that when the other police arrived at the house, she stopped being concerned about her personal safety.

Pages 130-131 - Arndt said that she didn't keep her eyes on all the people all the time and when she saw John going through the
mail, she thought he had gone out to get it .

Page 132 - - Arndt mentioned that Jane Harmer was her partner and sometimes Harmer would give reports to the group of
investigators.

Page 135 -136 - the questions make the reader think Arndt was late filing reports - between 30 and 60 days late. She says that
within the police department, she was accused of not performing all her duties properly.

Seems Arndt complained a few times about the team - and she was informed that the group was about to be downsized. Arndt
didn't want to be removed from the team. But she and Melissa Hickman were removed on May 13th.

Page 137-
Q. Did you ever claim to have lost memory in thiat case? A. No.
A. Did you testify to the Grand Jury? A. Yes.

Page 140 - A meeting with Koby that happened before Arndt was removed from the case - 3 issues
1. Arndt's safety concerns
2. lack of communication between Arndt and Wickman
3. downsizing the Ramsey team

Page 141 - Arndt was concerned about the safety of some of her family members.

Page 145 - Arndt said the decision to leave the department was hers alone - she was not asked to leave. She said that she was
not working - - had applied for several jobs and not gotten them and she felt it was because of her connection to the Ramsey case.

Pages 150-153 - - Arndt explained tht she took a medical leave from May to July of 1997 for "exhaustion". She blamed that on the
work she was doing on the ramsey case and to the "politics in the BPD regarding the Ramsey investigation."

pages 154-156 Arndt was active playing softball during that summer - she was getting medical treatment for lower back pain that
she said was stress-related, not due to any injury from playing softball.

Page 157 - 159 Arndt wants damages to cover the cost of having a will prepared - - she didn't feel the need for a will before
leaving the ramsey case and said it had nothing to do with thoughts of suicide -- she was afraid John Ramsey, Eller or Wickman
might cause her bodily harm. They never threatened her, just a feeling she had. She also noted that she felt she was being stalked
by Barbara Fernie.

Page 162 - 163 Arndt said she was uncomfortable discussing Barbara Fernie. Said Barbara Fernie kept saying, "I can't believe
JonBenét is dead. Please tell me that she's dead." Arndt said Fernie looked to her as "some source of safety and protection", that
Barbara didn't seem to have any ill will towards her but was more smothering than meddlesome. She also said that she felt the
tabloids were stalking her as well.

Page 164 - 170 - - lists of things she feels she should be reimbursed for.

Arndt got new windows and doors, new window coverings - - all related to her personal safety. She noted that someone left paint
or blood on her front step.

She wants to be reimbursed for a tape recorder she purchased to tape conversatins that might be important.

She wants to be paid back for her costs of paper and envelopes and such that she needed to find a new job - cartridge for her
printer.

Arndt wants to be paid back for her weight equipment since she lost her health club privileges when she left the police force.

She wants her medical bills and prescriptions covered -- also the cost of a new health and dental insurance - - she lost her
coverage when she left the force.

Said she was grinding her teeth because of stress, broke some crowns and that bill should be paid.

Arndt went to several doctors for that lower back pain - - and a massage therapist - - she wants thoose bills covered.

She took classses that might lead to employment and wants to be reimbursed for that.

Books - two on stalking and one on the "scapegoat complex" -- all listed.

Vitamens and herbal remedies for three years

And milage related to meeting attorneys - including the trip to the deposition being taken.

And, of course, the cost of the will.

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Beginning of Deposition part 2 - - Page 190

Page 190 -*** - started with questions about Anne Bardach and the Vanity Fair article. Arndt says that no matter what Bardach
said, she did NOT "bond" with Patsy Ramsey. There are pages of bickering - - Linda Arndt said she spoke to Bardach for only 5
minutes, doesn't remember all the details and didn't tell Bardach anything -- just that she only had one fact right - that Arndt had
been at the house on the 26th. When taken over the items one by one, she took issue with parts of each statement.
John had not necessarily carried up the stairs TO HER!

Page 204 - 217 said she did not bond with Patsy and doesn't remember being encouraged to establish a rapport with her. She said
that she reported every conversation she had with Patsy to Tom Wickman, sometimes it was a written report, other times it was an
oral statement. Same thing when she spent time with Barb fernie.
She went on and said that after 12/26, she met face to face with Patsy three times.
1. 1/4/1997 - - Arndt was present when Patsy gave a handwriting sample at Pete Hofstrom's house.
2. 1/8/1997 - - when Burke was interviewed at the Advocacy center, Arndt was with Patsy in the kitchen - they did not talk case
-- they did talk about Patsy's bout with cancer.
3. April, 1997? - At the Fernie house - Arndt had requested the meeting - - said she was "concerned about Patsy's well-being" and
asked to see her. Patsy's attorney, Pat Burke allowed it. Barb Fernie and Nedra Paugh were there also. Pat Burke did not stay -
the meeting lasted an hour. Arndt said that nothing about the investigation was discussed so she did not turn in a written report,
she did report it verbally.

A bit of discussion -- was that professional? Not to turn in a written report? Arndt said she did the right thing. Also said that
those were the only contacts she had with Patsy.

Q. Did you ever have a social relationship with Barb Fernie that went beyond your duties as a Boulder detective investigating the
ramsey matter?
A. No.

Page 219 - Arndt doesn't remember if she handed in any written reports onthose meetings - - she said she gave oral reports to the
group. Asked what she did when they were together, Arndt said, "Listen to her." Said they would sometimes walk together.

Page 220 -
Q. Did she ever provide you any information that you thought was helpful tot he Ramsey investigation?
A. No.

Page 221-222 - Arndt said she was just doing her job, didn't particularly enjoy her contacts with Barb Fernie and did NOT consider
Barb Fernie to be a friend.

Q. Do you think she liked you?
A. I think she trusted me.
Q. Do you think she liked you?
A. I don't know that I can answer that yes or no......................
...............
Q. Did she express an opinion as to whether or not John Ramsey killed JonBenét?
A. She was - - it distressed her to think that John or Patsy would be involved. And I don't remember her exressing any direct
comment about John Ramsey.
Q. Did she think they were involved?
A. She, as I remember, never said out loud, "I think John and Patsy are involved." It would be more, "I can't believe John or
patsy would do this."
Q. Did you report that to your team?
A. Yes.

Page 227 -
Arndt - "As a detective, I would keep investigative notes which detailed an account of what I did. And then I had my
handwritten notes, and at the conclusion of the investigation, I would complete a written report."
Q. Did you provide all of those investigative notes and handwritten notes to the investigative file maintained by the BPD?
A. No.
Q. Why not?
A. They weren't asked.

Page 228 - 229
Q. Were there investigative notes you kept in the Ramsey matter that you didn't turn over to be kept as part of the investigative
file on the Ramsey investigation?
A. Some.
Q. How did you decide what investigative reports - or investigative notes you would turn over and what investigative notes you
would not turn over in the Ramsey investigation?
A. I turned over the notes that were asked.
Q. So you had to be asked for the notes as opposed to your feeling it just part of your responsibility as a detective inthe
Ramsey investigation to turn over those notes?
A. I knew that Masn had turned his notes over, and they went into evidence, and they now are unaccounted for. And I did not
want the same thing to happen should I turn over notes without any kind of chain of command for evidence.

Page 232-235 - After quite a bit of wrangling, Arndt admitted she had notes - investigativenotes - that she never turned in.
They are being kept "in a safe place" and Arndt refused to reveal where tht place was - - said she was concerned about the
security - - didn't want them to disappear as Larry Mason's had. She said she had never made copies of those note3 and
turned them in - - but would be willing to make a copy for the BPD at that time. How many notes? 2 to 3 steno books of
notes.

Page 239 - 242 - after somemore discussion about how Arndt was unhappy with Eller and Wickman, she got back to the fear
for her personal safety. She was upset that her initial reports - - those stating what she saw and felt on December 26th - - were
givento the Ramseys and it made her fearful. She said not for direct harm from JR, but..... she just felt that her position as a
witness placed her and her loved ones in danger.

Page 243 - Sergeant Wickman told Arndt that she and Wickman would be removed from the Ramsey team. Arndt was upset.

Page 247 - 249 - Wickamn said Arndt was removed because she didn't conform to the team routine, didn't always attend
meetings and share information, was not caught up on written reports, was months behind and "...Linda was viewed as more of
a problem than an asset at the time."

Page 252 - Who did Arndt NOT trust? Eller and Wickman. Who DID she trust? Larry Mason, Bob Whitson and Paul
Reichenbach.

Page 254-255 - - Linda's behavior at some meetings was described - - she would hyperventilate, her eyes wuld grow wide -
clearly they felt she was overwhelmed. Arndt said her eyes are "expressive' and she was shaking because she had coffee on an
empty stomach.

Page 256-259 - Arndt and Koby had breakfast at Dot's Diner - about an hour - - discussed an award Arndt was getting - and
she told Koby about her feelings on the Ramsey case. She said he felt Patsy was the guilty party. But she was sure that it was
John and incest was an issue.

Page 263-265 - Arndt was asked to meet with Wickman - - she asked Jane Harmer and Steve Tomas to accompany her.
Thomas and Harmer were there for a while then left - - Arndt said Wickman said he had no problem with her work - they were
OK.

Page 267 - Arndt met with Eller who also said he had no problem with her work

Then there was a long thing on Koby - - lawyer wranglings and a break - did Arndt expect Koby to address 8 points publicly
or give a general statement on the case and Arndt's performance? On page 277, Arndt said that she felt "...more than just a
general statement is needed."

Page 278 - Arndt said she was trying to get a job at CU - Sexual Harassment Investigator (she did get that position later)

Page 283 - - Arndt names other officers who were late with reports - Wickman, Eller, Trujillo

Arndt indicated that she was not checked for a bug when she went to see Patsy.

She said she did not listen to the Peter Boyles program when he was attacking her.

Page 285

Q. ...Exhibit 4... an authorization to release medical information. Would you be willing to xecute that at this time?
A. by Mr. Jones - We've already indicated that we wouldn't sign.
Q. You'll follow your attorney's direction inthat regard?
A. yes.
Q. That's all. Thanks.

Pages 157-159 of her deposition

Q. Did you fear for your life as, in the context of your participation in the Ramsey investigation?
A. Yes
Q. Who did you think would take your life?
A. I didn't know.
Q. Okay. John Ramsey was one, apparently; is that right?
A. He could have.
Q. Anybody else that would have in your opinion?
A. It could have been anyone.
Q. Well, but you go out and get a will because you say you think you are going tolose your life and
you think John Ramsey is one possible perpetrator. Any others?
A. Not specifically, no.
Q. Anybody connected with the police department?
A. I wouldn't put it past certain individuals.
Q. Who?
A. Eller or Wickman.
Q. Anybody else?
A. Those two mostly.
Q. So you think they have the capacity to take your life when you say you wouldn't put it past
them?
A. Correct.
Q. Is this based on anything specific they said to you?
A. No.
Q. Just overall demeanor?
A. Yes.
Q. Anybody else, either inside or outside the BPD that you think is a potential threat to your life?
A. No.
Q. And you list two stalking books (in the items she wants to be reimbursed for), why do you list
those? Have you been stalked?
A. Yes.
Q. By whom?
A. Barb Fernie.
Q. Who?
A. Barb Fernie.
Q. Spell her name and describe or identify her.
A. F-E-R-N-I-E
Q. Who's she?
A. She's a main witness in the Ramsey case.
Q. And she was on the premises the day of the murder?
A. Yes