I have a copy of her deposition -- it is nearly 300 pages long so I will NOT be typing it all in - - but I will hit the highlights here.

The deposition was taken in 2 parts - - the first started at 7:45 on March 8th, 2000<P>Bruce Jones - attorney for Linda Arndt<BR>Theodore Halaby - attorney for Koby, Beckner and the City of Boulder<P>Linda Arndt made it clear she wanted the interview to be over by noon.<P>(I will insert page numbers periodically, will not write what every page was concerned with.)<P>Page 5 - Linda Arndt told the attorneys she was taking Effexor, an antidepressant, had been since November of 1999. (75 <BR>milligrams a day)<P>Page 7 - Arndt stated that "...leaks from BPD stated false things about me."<BR>She said they refused to clear up the misinformation and wouldn't let her either.<P>The only other person she felt was placed in a similar situation was Larry Mason.<P>Page 11 - Members of the BPD were told not to speak to media - - only Eller and those above him were to speak to the press. <BR>Arndt indicated that if anyone leaked, they were facing removal from the case - - as had happened to Larry Mason (for <BR>something he didn't do.)<P>Page 16 - Arndt said she didn't speak to anyone about the case while she was working on the investigation. In August of 1999, <BR>she decided to go public with her story and she contacted Shelly Ross, a producer with Good Morning America. (Apparently <BR>Ross had tried to get her to talk earlier but she had refused - - when she decided to go public, she contacted Ross.) Ross said <BR>Arndt would be allowed to tell her side of the story.<P>Page 20 - - She was not paid for the interview.<P>Arndt never spoke to Elizabeth Vargas until about a half-hour before the interview.<P>Arndt - as of March 2000, had never seen the program that aired - her interview. She said it was just too emotional - "Too <BR>hard to watch."<P>She said yes, she did say on that program that she believed John Ramsey murdered his daughter. She determined that when <BR>she saw him carry JonBenét's body up the stairs.<P>Page 27 - she was talking about how she was coming to the conclusion that John killed JonBenét, and she said, "...I was told <BR>that there was the practiced note on the note pad that John Ramsey had given earlier that day and that the parents were <BR>involved." She then went on to say that many things made her feel John did the crime - - including his behavior, his behavior <BR>and his comments when he brought JonBené up the stairs.<P>Page 29 - Arndt said she feels Patsy helped stage the cover-up.<BR>

Page 30 - - asked if she felt she did anything on the 26th that had a negative impact on the investigation, Arndt said, "I think I <BR>did a phenomenally good job, given the resources that I had and the information that I had." She indicated that she thought it <BR>was a kidnapping until the body was found - had no reason to think otherwise.<P>Page 33 - - asked if she "...took all reasonable efforts under the circumstances to preserve the crime scene?" she responded, <BR>"Yes."<P>Page 35 - She thought more would be covered in the interview - wanted to thank certain people for their support - felt she got <BR>tired and could have done better.<P>Page 38 - Arndt wanted to talk about <BR>1. actual events of 12/26<BR>2. internal politics at BPD<BR>3. how the focus got lost in the investigation<P>Page 40 - she spoke about how - within the first week - members of the BPD were talkking about how they might write a book <BR>about this case. She also said that people were assigned because of relationships they had with others in the department - there <BR>was a lot of favoritism going on.<P>On page 41-42 there is this exchange -<BR>Arndt - " There was quite a strong message sent out when Mason was summarily dismissed from the investigative team. And <BR>then it was known the next day that what he was charged with he never did, but still, he was put through hell for 6 months and <BR>went through an IA. And it was known that he never did what was alleged.<BR>The politics involved people in supervisory positions able to see balck and white and not able to see anything that wasn't <BR>tangible. And if a person's opinion on the investigative team was in the minority, that opinion was dismissed.<P>Q. Does that include your opinions?<P>A. It included mine, all of the Department of Social Services, including some other people.<P>Q. So you were - you felt you were advocating certain opinions in these investigative team meetings that were minority opinions, <BR>and, therefore, disregarded?<P>A. It was not - - my opinion was not the opinion of the command structure at the Boulder Police Department, and no, my <BR>opinion wasn't, was never heard nor heeded.<P>Q. So to repeat my question, you felt that opinions you were expressing in these investigative team meetings were being <BR>disregarded and were minority opinions.<P>A. Opinions and information, yes.<P><BR>Arndt said that she wanted to see the possibility of incest studied but they wouldn't follow her lead.<P>(But other sources indicate that they DID check on that - - so I don't know what Arndt is referring to.)

Page 45 - Arndt said that some of the people who spoke about writing books early on were the people leaking information and <BR>"false statements". She named Steve Thomas and Tom Koby.<BR>Without supporting evidence, she says Thomas was the leak to Anne Bardach and she says Koby told the mayor that Arndt <BR>had attempted suicide and wouldn't be a cop again. Arndt said the mayor, Leslie Durgan, told Priscilla White about the suicide <BR>attempt and Priscilla asked her (Linda Arndt) about it. She doesn't say if she actually did attempt to kill herself.<P>Page 48 - Arndt starts talking about how she spoke to Anne Bardach - she wouldn't tell Bardach anything -- just told her that <BR>the only thing she had right about HER (Arndt) was tht she had been at the Ramsey house on the 26th of December, 1996.<P>Apparently Arndt had a friend named Lisa - no-last-name from Lafayette, CO who was close to Bardach and knew Bardach <BR>met with her Deep Throat for 8 hours on July 4th, 1997 - Arndt believed that was Thomas.<P>Page 55 - Arndt was telling local reporters that she was being misrepresented - - they didn't seem to care - - said they had <BR>well-placed sources and believed those stories.<P>Page 58 - - Arndt said Allie Krupski and Krupski's sources preferred to talk to her because Thomas and Gosage were <BR>'strong-arming people' .<P>Page 60 - - Arndt said she refused to talk to Larry Schiller. She was also contacted by Charlie Brennan, Craig lewis and john <BR>South.<P>Page 62 - Interesting quote - "Schiller got to be so annoyed by Thomas' frequent contacts that he'd tell him to stop calling him."<BR>She didn't hear that from Schiller, but from Mimi Wesson - she is in the deposition as an attorney but I thought she was a CU <BR>professor. I know she is also an author -- and on her home page, her photo is done by Judith Phillips.<P>Page 63 - Arndt names Thomas as the source for Schiller's book - but she doesn't have evidence that is correct.

Page 66 - Arndt and Trujillo were co-lead detectives<P>Arndt speaks about her meeting with Anne Bardach - - says it lasted about 5 minutes - she didn't see anything Bardach had <BR>written - - Bardach just spoke to her about the article. Arndt said that Bardach had HER part in it wrong but wouldn't "talk <BR>case" with Bardach. <P>Arndt said she never kept a scrapbook or file onthe media reports.<P>Arndt repeats that she believes Steve Thomas was Bardach's source but can't prove it. She felt that the negative things about <BR>her that appeared in Bardach's article came from Thomas. The attorney seemed to want her to add Koby's name here, but <BR>Arndt didn't do that.<P>Page 77 - <BR>Q. "...you're not alleging that Tom Koby leaked this information about you trying to commit suicide to any member of the <BR>media. Is that a correct statement?" <BR>A. "I'm saying I don't know if he did or didn't."<BR>On page 80 she again puts that information going from Koby to Durgin to White.<P>Page 78 - the only person Arndt is willing to say leaked INVESTIGATION information to the media is Steve Thomas.<P>Page 81 - Arndt said it was clear others were leaking to the media but she says she has no information that Beckner OR Eller <BR>spoke to the media about her.<P>Pages 83 - 85 - deal with Arndt approaching Koby asking him to defend her inthe media - and his refusal to do wo. Linda <BR>Arndt had an attorney by that time - - someone she hired after talking to a union representative named Mike Pease.<P>Page 86 - 92 - By April of 1997, Arndt was finding it difficult to work with Koby, Eller and Wickman. She was being forced <BR>to answer to all of them, not just one and said that was "unprecedented". The others didn't have to do that - she felt it was <BR>inefficient and discrimination. She specifically says Trujillo was not treated that way.<P>Page 94 -97 - said Wickman and Eller were abrasive - - would yell at her. They would each question her and not speak to <BR>each other - said Koby didn't yell but he accused he of not being respectful. She also reported being excluded from meetings - <BR>and while the FBI people would talk to the other detectives, they would not speak to her - - she felt because those above her <BR>didn't want her involved.<P>Page 98 - Marilyn Kruegel, from the Employee Assistance Program tried to go to bat for her aand reported back that her <BR>concerns were well-founded. Wickman, Eller and Koby were not her friends.<P>Page 99 - - Trujillo had a closer, better relationship with Wickman.<P>Page 100 - 104 - Arndt felt isolated as soon as the day Mason was removed from the case - - that was 1/5/1997 - - she didn't <BR>feel she was being respected or taken as seriously as she deserved to be.<P>Pages 105-110 - This dealt with Linda Arndt and Sergeant Wickman not being in contact with each other - - they accused <BR>each other of being distant, not staying in communication. At first Arndt seems to say it was all his fault - - but on page 110, she <BR>says she stopped trying to communicate.<P>

A few pages were devoted to Attorney/client confidentiality and privilege.<P>Page 116 - 119 - Back to when Arndt decided John Killed JonBenét - - she had been in the house for about 5 hours - had <BR>taped off JBR's bedroom, she denies that she "lost track of John" or that he left the house - she says she merely noted that she <BR>saw him reading the mail. She said that before the body was found, she had NO suspicions that John was John might be a <BR>murderer. <P>Page 120 Linda lists the "evidence"<BR>No forced entry<BR>no tracks<BR>no break-in<BR>no sounds heard during the night<BR>John was last to see JBR<BR>JR's behavior<BR>JR's bahevior with his wife<BR>behaviors of others<BR>the ransom note<BR>she says there is more she can't list<P>Biggie - - how he carried her up from the basement. She didn't know how he SHOULD have carried the body, but he held her <BR>in front of him, his arms around her upper legs, her head above his.<BR>She then said, "I didn't know what John Ramsey's reaction or behavior would be." and so she feared for everyone's safety.<P>Page 124 - Arndt - "I was prepared to defend the rest of the people in the home." She said she feared for her own safety - - <BR>but on page 127, she says that threat she felt did not last throughout the day - "It was in that moment."<P>Asked if she later felt a threat from JR, she says yes but notes that it was "indirectly". Asked to explain, she said that Eller <BR>advised her that she needed to be aware that she "was a key witness"..."knew information no one else knew"... "had to be <BR>careful and take a different route home every day"... "be extra careful... people would be willing to kill me."<P>She said that when the other police arrived at the house, she stopped being concerned about her personal safety.

Page 129 - Wickman and Patterson left the ramsey house together at about 10:30 am - - Arndt was the only police officer left <BR>behind. Wickman said he would send assistqance soon but that didn't happen, despite 2 calls from Arndt asking for assistance.<P>Pages 130-131 - Arndt said that she didn't keep her eyes on all the people all the time and when she saw John going through the <BR>mail, she thought he had gone out to get it .<P>Page 132 - - Arndt mentioned that Jane Harmer was her partner and sometimes Harmer would give reports to the group of <BR>investigators. <P>Page 135 -136 - the questions make the reader think Arndt was late filing reports - between 30 and 60 days late. She says that <BR>within the police department, she was accused of not performing all her duties properly.<P>Seems Arndt complained a few times about the team - and she was informed that the group was about to be downsized. Arndt <BR>didn't want to be removed from the team. But she and Melissa Hickman were removed on May 13th.<P>Page 137-<BR>Q. Did you ever claim to have lost memory in thiat case? A. No.<BR>A. Did you testify to the Grand Jury? A. Yes.<P>Page 140 - A meeting with Koby that happened before Arndt was removed from the case - 3 issues<BR>1. Arndt's safety concerns<BR>2. lack of communication between Arndt and Wickman<BR>3. downsizing the Ramsey team<P>Page 141 - Arndt was concerned about the safety of some of her family members.<P>Page 145 - Arndt said the decision to leave the department was hers alone - she was not asked to leave. She said that she was <BR>not working - - had applied for several jobs and not gotten them and she felt it was because of her connection to the Ramsey case.<P>Pages 150-153 - - Arndt explained tht she took a medical leave from May to July of 1997 for "exhaustion". She blamed that on the <BR>work she was doing on the ramsey case and to the "politics in the BPD regarding the Ramsey investigation."<P>pages 154-156 Arndt was active playing softball during that summer - she was getting medical treatment for lower back pain that <BR>she said was stress-related, not due to any injury from playing softball.<P>Page 157 - 159 Arndt wants damages to cover the cost of having a will prepared - - she didn't feel the need for a will before <BR>leaving the ramsey case and said it had nothing to do with thoughts of suicide -- she was afraid John Ramsey, Eller or Wickman <BR>might cause her bodily harm. They never threatened her, just a feeling she had. She also noted that she felt she was being stalked <BR>by Barbara Fernie.

<BR>Page 160 - - Between May of 1997 and sometime in 1999, Barbara Fernie had repeatedly attempted to contact Linda Arndt. <BR>Page 161 - <BR>Q. She wanted to give you more information or just find out what was going on?<BR>A. Neither.<BR>Q. What was it?<BR>A. She just wanted to keep in touch with me.<BR>Q. As a friend?<BR>A. I need a break.<P>Page 162 - 163 Arndt said she was uncomfortable discussing Barbara Fernie. Said Barbara Fernie kept saying, "I can't believe <BR>JonBenét is dead. Please tell me that she's dead." Arndt said Fernie looked to her as "some source of safety and protection", that <BR>Barbara didn't seem to have any ill will towards her but was more smothering than meddlesome. She also said that she felt the <BR>tabloids were stalking her as well.<P>Page 164 - 170 - - lists of things she feels she should be reimbursed for.<P>Arndt got new windows and doors, new window coverings - - all related to her personal safety. She noted that someone left paint <BR>or blood on her front step. <P>She wants to be reimbursed for a tape recorder she purchased to tape conversatins that might be important.<P>She wants to be paid back for her costs of paper and envelopes and such that she needed to find a new job - cartridge for her <BR>printer.<P>Arndt wants to be paid back for her weight equipment since she lost her health club privileges when she left the police force.<P>She wants her medical bills and prescriptions covered -- also the cost of a new health and dental insurance - - she lost her <BR>coverage when she left the force.<P>Said she was grinding her teeth because of stress, broke some crowns and that bill should be paid.<P>Arndt went to several doctors for that lower back pain - - and a massage therapist - - she wants thoose bills covered.<P>She took classses that might lead to employment and wants to be reimbursed for that.<P>Books - two on stalking and one on the "scapegoat complex" -- all listed.<P>Vitamens and herbal remedies for three years<P>And milage related to meeting attorneys - including the trip to the deposition being taken.<P>And, of course, the cost of the will.<BR>

End of the deposition taken March 8th. Arndt said she needed to leave - - the Boulder Attorney was not happy but the deposition <BR>ended and was picked up again on April 10th.<P>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<P>Beginning of Deposition part 2 - - Page 190<P>Page 190 -*** - started with questions about Anne Bardach and the Vanity Fair article. Arndt says that no matter what Bardach <BR>said, she did NOT "bond" with Patsy Ramsey. There are pages of bickering - - Linda Arndt said she spoke to Bardach for only 5 <BR>minutes, doesn't remember all the details and didn't tell Bardach anything -- just that she only had one fact right - that Arndt had <BR>been at the house on the 26th. When taken over the items one by one, she took issue with parts of each statement.<BR>John had not necessarily carried up the stairs TO HER! <P>Page 204 - 217 said she did not bond with Patsy and doesn't remember being encouraged to establish a rapport with her. She said <BR>that she reported every conversation she had with Patsy to Tom Wickman, sometimes it was a written report, other times it was an <BR>oral statement. Same thing when she spent time with Barb fernie.<BR>She went on and said that after 12/26, she met face to face with Patsy three times.<BR>1. 1/4/1997 - - Arndt was present when Patsy gave a handwriting sample at Pete Hofstrom's house.<BR>2. 1/8/1997 - - when Burke was interviewed at the Advocacy center, Arndt was with Patsy in the kitchen - they did not talk case <BR>-- they did talk about Patsy's bout with cancer.<BR>3. April, 1997? - At the Fernie house - Arndt had requested the meeting - - said she was "concerned about Patsy's well-being" and <BR>asked to see her. Patsy's attorney, Pat Burke allowed it. Barb Fernie and Nedra Paugh were there also. Pat Burke did not stay - <BR>the meeting lasted an hour. Arndt said that nothing about the investigation was discussed so she did not turn in a written report, <BR>she did report it verbally.<P>A bit of discussion -- was that professional? Not to turn in a written report? Arndt said she did the right thing. Also said that <BR>those were the only contacts she had with Patsy.

Page 218 - From the time of the murder until she was removed from the case, Arndt was assigned to deal with Barb Fernie - - the <BR>person considered Patsy's closest friend. Either Eller or Wickman told her to try to get information abut Patsy from Barb. Arndt <BR>met with Barb about once a week.<P>Q. Did you ever have a social relationship with Barb Fernie that went beyond your duties as a Boulder detective investigating the <BR>ramsey matter?<BR>A. No.<P><BR>Page 219 - Arndt doesn't remember if she handed in any written reports onthose meetings - - she said she gave oral reports to the <BR>group. Asked what she did when they were together, Arndt said, "Listen to her." Said they would sometimes walk together.<P>Page 220 - <BR>Q. Did she ever provide you any information that you thought was helpful tot he Ramsey investigation?<BR>A. No.<P>Page 221-222 - Arndt said she was just doing her job, didn't particularly enjoy her contacts with Barb Fernie and did NOT consider <BR>Barb Fernie to be a friend.<P>Q. Do you think she liked you?<BR>A. I think she trusted me.<BR>Q. Do you think she liked you?<BR>A. I don't know that I can answer that yes or no......................<BR>...............<BR>Q. Did she express an opinion as to whether or not John Ramsey killed JonBenét?<BR>A. She was - - it distressed her to think that John or Patsy would be involved. And I don't remember her exressing any direct <BR>comment about John Ramsey.<BR>Q. Did she think they were involved?<BR>A. She, as I remember, never said out loud, "I think John and Patsy are involved." It would be more, "I can't believe John or <BR>patsy would do this."<BR>Q. Did you report that to your team?<BR>A. Yes.<P>

A few pages were devoted on timely reports - - and then this...<P>Page 227 -<BR>Arndt - "As a detective, I would keep investigative notes which detailed an account of what I did. And then I had my <BR>handwritten notes, and at the conclusion of the investigation, I would complete a written report."<BR>Q. Did you provide all of those investigative notes and handwritten notes to the investigative file maintained by the BPD?<BR>A. No.<BR>Q. Why not?<BR>A. They weren't asked.<P>Page 228 - 229<BR>Q. Were there investigative notes you kept in the Ramsey matter that you didn't turn over to be kept as part of the investigative <BR>file on the Ramsey investigation?<BR>A. Some.<BR>Q. How did you decide what investigative reports - or investigative notes you would turn over and what investigative notes you <BR>would not turn over in the Ramsey investigation?<BR>A. I turned over the notes that were asked.<BR>Q. So you had to be asked for the notes as opposed to your feeling it just part of your responsibility as a detective inthe <BR>Ramsey investigation to turn over those notes?<BR>A. I knew that Masn had turned his notes over, and they went into evidence, and they now are unaccounted for. And I did not <BR>want the same thing to happen should I turn over notes without any kind of chain of command for evidence.<P>Page 232-235 - After quite a bit of wrangling, Arndt admitted she had notes - investigativenotes - that she never turned in. <BR>They are being kept "in a safe place" and Arndt refused to reveal where tht place was - - said she was concerned about the <BR>security - - didn't want them to disappear as Larry Mason's had. She said she had never made copies of those note3 and <BR>turned them in - - but would be willing to make a copy for the BPD at that time. How many notes? 2 to 3 steno books of <BR>notes. <P>Page 239 - 242 - after somemore discussion about how Arndt was unhappy with Eller and Wickman, she got back to the fear <BR>for her personal safety. She was upset that her initial reports - - those stating what she saw and felt on December 26th - - were <BR>givento the Ramseys and it made her fearful. She said not for direct harm from JR, but..... she just felt that her position as a <BR>witness placed her and her loved ones in danger.<P>Page 243 - Sergeant Wickman told Arndt that she and Wickman would be removed from the Ramsey team. Arndt was upset.<P>Page 247 - 249 - Wickamn said Arndt was removed because she didn't conform to the team routine, didn't always attend <BR>meetings and share information, was not caught up on written reports, was months behind and "...Linda was viewed as more of <BR>a problem than an asset at the time."<P>Page 252 - Who did Arndt NOT trust? Eller and Wickman. Who DID she trust? Larry Mason, Bob Whitson and Paul <BR>Reichenbach.<P>Page 254-255 - - Linda's behavior at some meetings was described - - she would hyperventilate, her eyes wuld grow wide - <BR>clearly they felt she was overwhelmed. Arndt said her eyes are "expressive' and she was shaking because she had coffee on an <BR>empty stomach.<P>Page 256-259 - Arndt and Koby had breakfast at Dot's Diner - about an hour - - discussed an award Arndt was getting - and <BR>she told Koby about her feelings on the Ramsey case. She said he felt Patsy was the guilty party. But she was sure that it was <BR>John and incest was an issue.<P>Page 263-265 - Arndt was asked to meet with Wickman - - she asked Jane Harmer and Steve Tomas to accompany her. <BR>Thomas and Harmer were there for a while then left - - Arndt said Wickman said he had no problem with her work - they were <BR>OK.<P>Page 267 - Arndt met with Eller who also said he had no problem with her work<P>Then there was a long thing on Koby - - lawyer wranglings and a break - did Arndt expect Koby to address 8 points publicly <BR>or give a general statement on the case and Arndt's performance? On page 277, Arndt said that she felt "...more than just a <BR>general statement is needed."<P>Page 278 - Arndt said she was trying to get a job at CU - Sexual Harassment Investigator (she did get that position later)<P>Page 283 - - Arndt names other officers who were late with reports - Wickman, Eller, Trujillo<P>Arndt indicated that she was not checked for a bug when she went to see Patsy.<P>She said she did not listen to the Peter Boyles program when he was attacking her.<P>Page 285<P>Q. ...Exhibit 4... an authorization to release medical information. Would you be willing to xecute that at this time?<BR>A. by Mr. Jones - We've already indicated that we wouldn't sign.<BR>Q. You'll follow your attorney's direction inthat regard?<BR>A. yes.<BR>Q. That's all. Thanks.<P>

<center><font size="1" color="#ff0000">LAST EDITED ON May-20-01 AT 06:21 PM (EST)</font></center><p><BR> Pages 157-159 of her deposition<P> Q. Did you fear for your life as, in the context of your participation in the Ramsey investigation?<BR> A. Yes<BR> Q. Who did you think would take your life?<BR> A. I didn't know.<BR> Q. Okay. John Ramsey was one, apparently; is that right?<BR> A. He could have.<BR> Q. Anybody else that would have in your opinion?<BR> A. It could have been anyone.<BR> Q. Well, but you go out and get a will because you say you think you are going tolose your life and<BR> you think John Ramsey is one possible perpetrator. Any others?<BR> A. Not specifically, no.<BR> Q. Anybody connected with the police department?<BR> A. I wouldn't put it past certain individuals.<BR> Q. Who?<BR> A. Eller or Wickman.<BR> Q. Anybody else?<BR> A. Those two mostly.<BR> Q. So you think they have the capacity to take your life when you say you wouldn't put it past<BR> them?<BR> A. Correct.<BR> Q. Is this based on anything specific they said to you?<BR> A. No.<BR> Q. Just overall demeanor?<BR> A. Yes.<BR> Q. Anybody else, either inside or outside the BPD that you think is a potential threat to your life?<BR> A. No.<BR> Q. And you list two stalking books (in the items she wants to be reimbursed for), why do you list<BR> those? Have you been stalked?<BR> A. Yes.<BR> Q. By whom?<BR> A. Barb Fernie.<BR> Q. Who?<BR> A. Barb Fernie.<BR> Q. Spell her name and describe or identify her.<BR> A. F-E-R-N-I-E<BR> Q. Who's she?<BR> A. She's a main witness in the Ramsey case.<BR> Q. And she was on the premises the day of the murder? <BR> A. Yes<P>