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Countrygirl
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"$15,000"
 
   Scott was said to have had $10,000 cash on him the day he was arrested. He paid $1400 cash for the boat, and $3600 cash for the car. That's exactly $15,000.

I wonder where he got that kind of money? Can someone take an advance cash amount on a life insurance policy?


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1. "RE: $15,000"
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   If it is a whole life policy or a universal life policy, the policy has a cash value at any given time. The owner of the policy can take out a loan aganst the policy for an amount equal to the current cash value.

He may have also taken out a credit line against his home if there was enough equity built up. Or, he may have taken a cash advance against a credit card. Lots of ways a person can quickly get their hands on $15,000 if they have good credit.

The fact that it was cash, rather than deposited into a checking or savings account, tells me he didn't want Laci to know about the money.


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2. "RE: $15,000"
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   "The fact that it was cash, rather than deposited into a checking or savings account, tells me he didn't want Laci to know about the money."


Didn't want Laci to know about the money? He already knew at that point that bodies had been found -- he didn't want POLICE to know about the money. He knew Laci wouldn't ever know about the money, in my opinion, that is.


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3. "RE: $15,000"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-03 AT 04:25 PM (EST)
 
He had at least $1400 in cash before Laci went missing, Dec 9th to buy the boat that they don't think she knew about. He purchased the Mercedes on April 14th, one day before Conner's body washed up.
If he took $15 or $20K advance that could be some explanation for the large sums of cash.


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4. "RE: $15,000"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-03 AT 04:11 PM (EST)
 
It will be traced and determined when Scott received that money. We know Scott had some "extra" money (for the boat) early in December. If it can be determined he had all of the "extra" money long before Laci went missing, that might go to premeditation. I don't think he was trying to hide it from the police, as it can and will be (if it has not already) easily traced.


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5. "RE: $15,000"
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   Scott could have accumulated the money over a period of time. Perhaps if he deposited his own paychecks, he could have taken out some cash every paycheck or since he was a salesman he could have gotten a bonus check? I'm sure authorities know how and when he got the money. We'll know soon enough.


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6. "RE: $15,000"
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   Actually, I've been thinking alot about the money he had on him as well- he paid for the boat with fourteen $100 bills, for the Mercedes with thirty-six $100 bills, and had $10,000 in cash on him when arrested.

Someone above said that it's easy to get your hands on that amount of money if you have good credit- true, but from what I read somewhere, Laci & Scott were close to filing bankruptcy just last year (May comes to mind- I'll have to go back and find where I read that, it was several months ago)... now, whether or not that's true, who knows?.... But it would make it alot harder for him to get money like that....


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7. "RE: $15,000"
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   Dragonfly...

I saw the same thing too. Their credit was not THAT great. I am guessing that he got a loan from the life insurance policy on Laci.

Or, they could have paid a partial claim since her death at that point that he had the $10,000.00 on him, her case had been declared a homicide.


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8. "RE: $15,000"
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   I'm sure they will go over his finances, but his parents will lie anyway.

He would be a fool to leave a paper trail showing his financial need like that but he probably is a fool if he thought he could get away with such a botched murder.

What he may have done is cleaned out some stock account or something that Laci wouldn't have found out about promptly if at all.

He may have gotten some of that money later from his relatives. If he had intended to run, he would need cash. You can't run on credit cards.


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9. "RE: $15,000 Drug ingredients??"
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   This was published in the National Enquirer on 9/2. Although I don't put a lot of weight into the mags, there are quite a few facts contained in this. The amount of money Scott went through, and the ingredients necessary for the manufacturing of methamphetamines. I was also VERY curious as to why Scott's employer would come out so early to defend him. Maybe, just maybe they didn't want their name connected to someone selling their product illegally. This is all speculation (as most of this case is) but it does bring questions to mind, (mine anyway).

In December, just weeks before Laci was reported missing on Christmas Eve, Scott joined the upscale DelRio Country Club at a cost of $25,000. He also bought a 14 ft. aluminum fishing boat with out telling his wife.

Modesto and the surrounding California Central Valley region are considered the U.S. capital for the production of methamphetamine, a widely used stimulant that causes euphoria.

Police suspect Scott may have played a role in illegal drug activity.

"Police think that Scott's expensive lifestyle may be more than would be expected on the commissions of a fertilizer salesman, unless Scott was dealing in the black market trade with any of the many methamphetamine makers, or 'cookers,'" said an investigator.

"The meth cookers have to go to the black market to get the fertilizer compound, anhydrous ammonia. It is the only ingredient in the drug that can't be bought over the
counter at a local pharmacy."

Unlike the other ingredients, Acetone, and common cold medicines such as Pseudoephedrine or Ephedrine, the sale of Anhydrous ammonia is restricted by law.

The high-nitrogen fertilizer costs about $2 a gallon when used for legal purposes on the farm to keep crops green. But on the street, as the juice for home "cooked" meth, it brings between $60 and $200 a gallon.

"The DEA guys want to know if Scott Peterson has been supplying the fertilizer ingredient to any of the meth labs in the valley," said a source inside the investigation. "They are also curious about Peterson's recent trips to Mexico, which is a center for the international methamphetamine trade."

Court documents obtained by The ENQUIRER show that wiretap evidence and subpoenaed records of Scott Peterson's cell phone usage have been turned over to the Stanislaus (County) Drug Enforcement Agency.

But authorities won't disclose whether they have uncovered any evidence that indicates Peterson has been involved in the sale of fertilizer to meth makers.

Kelly Houston, a spokesman for the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Dept. told the ENQUIRER, "It is not unusual for narcotics officers to be doing wiretaps in the Peterson case, the DEA guys are the most experienced in handling wiretaps."

However, Stanislaus District Attorney, Jim Brazelton may have tipped his hand when he opposed live television coverage in the courtroom during evidence hearings scheduled for September in Scott Peterson's case.

In court papers, Brazelton said, "Cameras in the court might expose the identities of undercover investigators."

The investigator told The ENQUIRER, " You don't need undercover detectives in a homicide investigation. You use undercover investigators in a narcotics investigation."


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10. "RE: $15,000"
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   I had read there was an explanation why the $15,000. Also read Scott (or family ) had sold the golf club membership.


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11. "RE: $15,000"
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   I haven't heard an explanation for the $15K, but I believe the golf club membership was sold after Laci went missing maybe that's where it came from.

Where did he get the $25K to buy it in early December? And the $1400 for the boat (cash)?


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12. "RE: $15,000"
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   Money from fertilizer company sales to farmers. Sales are ( salary + commissions (?)) and there is big time farming in the SanJuaquin Valley. Not fertilizer for truck patch or back yard veggie garden.


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13. "RE: $15,000"
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   And there are other salesmen, and other fertilizers.

Why, if they had all of this cash, would Laci be pawning or selling on Ebay, the jewlery that she inherited from her grandma? Why would he be carrying a loaded gun in his truck? Why would he be so worried about the repercussions to other people in the disappearance of Laci?


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14. "Scott Employment"
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   Given the fact of his age, education, charm, location and apparent ability, the fertilizer company hired him.

'And there are other salesmen, and other fertilizers. "
Yes and those salesmen more than likely took over where Scott left off.

Haven't the slightest idea why Laci would be pawning or selling her inherited jewelry on ebay or pawn shops. We will never know how Laci felt about that issue.

For the loaded gun, not legal to carry a loaded gun but when it was found, had it been recently fired? It's not safe traveling in those areas with out protection. Most people do in the area, regardless of the law.

Know your rights: One does have the right to run, hide, avoid, evade media. I think I would have walked on my two hands if the media charged at me like they did on Scott.


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15. "RE: Scott Employment"
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   ...and I would have left Modesto and gone to San Diego to where my parents live, colored my hair and possibly lied about my identity to avoid the media too.

But it seems that the PD believes that those are signs of fleeing...


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16. "RE: Scott Employment"
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   Don't forget he had lots of expensive camping equipment with him as well.

That article above does give one pause for deep thought- could this be connected to Scott telling Amber that he didn't have anything to do with Laci's disappearance, but he knows who did? Drug dealers?

It makes you wonder- still, I can't shake the suspicion of Scott being involved in her death- he told Amber this was his first Xmas without his wife....and it came true. That statement plus the affair plus the secret boat plus the missing anchors plus the fishing (he couldn't tell them what he was fishing for) plus the lack of bait and the unopened lures, plus the bodies showing up near his alibi plus all the various other lies....it's too much. I simply cannot believe him.


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17. "We Are Adults..."
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   ...are we so naive that we don't know why Scott told Amber all those lies when they met? With the previous experience she had with that other married man she certainly should have known...but it was all so much fun and at last she thought she had finally found her 'man'and couldn't turn loose. The excuses Scott made to her 'going to Europe will be away for the Holidays, then to Maine' ...oh yes after January 25 we can spend more time together, which would be about 6 weeks later... by that time she maybe would forget Scott Peterson, and that's what Scott had hoped for. THEY ALL LIE !


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18. "Contents of the Mercedes"
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   Nancy G. said tonight on LKL that Scott had a LOT of clothing, camping gear, his brother's ID, the infamous $15K... but NO golf clubs... yet he was arrested at (or just outside of) a golf course.

It is possible that he rented clubs, but I would surely think that a man with a 25K country club membership in Modesto would own his own clubs, and have them with him.

That I find very interesting.

Don't know if it's true, but that's what she said.


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19. "RE: We Are Adults..."
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   I don't think he planned on dumping Amber... he called her way too much for that. Then sending her jewelry while his wife is "missing" and all of it.

Amber is pregnant now and engaged to the baby's father, I can't help but wonder, if Scott is guilty of this crime and I believe that he is, would he have done the same thing to Amber if she got pregnant with his child? Thank God, it isn't his baby.

I hope that Amber can put all of this behind her and be happy.

I am not going to blame her with the old, she should have known better, some guys are just natural smooth talkers and liars, and Scott was that kind of guy. She wanted to believe in him, just as Laci did.

And yes, I do believe in love at first site, so it is possible that Amber fell in love with Scott in that short period of time. He certainly portrayed the love sick puppy to her family from the reports.

Nope, you aren't going to see me blaming her for anything. HE is the one that was married and should have known better.
Amber was lied to before with a guy and found out he was married, and she dumped him when she found out. That doesn't make her one of those women that chase married men, it just makes her a target, a single mother is a good target, some see them as vulnerable.

I refuse to blame her for this. As soon as she found out that Laci was indeed Scott's wife, she did the right thing and contacted police.


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20. "RE: We Are Adults..."
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   I haven't seen a report that Scott sent Amber jewelry.
I'm not blaming Amber for her role in this mystery. I understand that Scott lied to her and continued to keep her on the string and I assume we all know why he did.

I haven't the slightest knowledge that Amber is pregnant and nor could I care less. If she is engaged I would hope the man now in her life is her child's father or at least someone who can provide for her and her child and go forward with happy lives and put all this behind.

I am not fond of her attorney Allred, never have been.
All of the above is JMHO.


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21. "RE: We Are Adults..."
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   I just posted the report in its own thread...

as far as the jewelry goes, it was reported on fox news that Scott left the jewelry in a box in a parking lot for her to pickup, I am searching for the link now.


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22. "Jewelry"
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   Okay safe keeping since he would be away and the Peterson home was raided? Curious about the date.


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