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"DNA debate opens first day"
 
   http://modestobee.com/local/story/7665085p-8570337c.html


Scott Peterson, right, and defense attorney Mark Geragos listen as FBI DNA expert Constance Fisher testifies Wednesday before Judge Al Girolami.
LAURIE McADAM/THE BEE

DNA debate opens first day


By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ
BEE STAFF WRITERS

Last Updated: October 30, 2003, 11:10:38 AM PST


Wiretaps secretly recording Scott Peterson's telephone conversations while he was under police surveillance will not be used in his double-murder preliminary hearing, prosecutors said Wednesday.
Nor will they present evidence from GPS tracking devices placed on his vehicles to monitor his movements, Senior Deputy District Attorney Rick Distaso said moments after the long-awaited hearing got under way in Stanislaus County Superior Court.

The defense, however, still wants to raise the issue that the wiretaps were improperly conducted.

The bulk of Wednesday's proceedings was dedicated to an FBI expert's detailed testimony about mitochondrial DNA testing.

An afternoon of technical cross- examination by defense attorney Mark Geragos was aimed at showing the mitochondrial DNA testing process was unreliable and the results should not be admissable in court.

Geragos also contends that police mishandled a single strand of hair found attached to pliers in Peterson's boat.

Mitochondrial DNA tests showed that the hair did not come from Peterson but could have come from his wife, Laci, according to the prosecution.

Peterson told police he took the boat on a fishing trip to San Francisco Bay on Dec. 24, and his wife was missing when he returned to Modesto that evening. She was almost eight months pregnant at the time.

Her body and that of her son, Conner, were found in April along the bay's eastern shore, several miles from where Peterson said he went fishing. Police arrested Peterson on April 18 in the San Diego area, where his family lives.

Peterson, 31, is charged with murdering his wife and their unborn son, and prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Prosecutors are presenting some of their evidence during the preliminary hearing, slated to last five days, and Judge Al Girolami will decide whether there is enough evidence to hold Peterson for trial.

Frey's lawyer can stay

At the outset of the hearing, Geragos asked Girolami to order attorney Gloria Allred out of the courtroom. Allred represents Amber Frey, who was Peterson's girlfriend when Laci Peterson disappeared.

Frey, 28, of Fresno has cooperated with authorities since she contacted police on Dec. 30. She said she did not know that Peterson was married when they began their relationship.

Girolami allowed Allred to stay but ordered her not to discuss any testimony with her client.

"You can give her advice but you cannot include what witnesses have said," Girolami said.

All witnesses are kept out of the courtroom before testimony. Exceptions are the parents of Laci and Scott Peterson and Laci Peterson's sister, Amy Rocha.

Prosecutors gave no indication of when they intend to call Frey to the stand.

The prosecution's first witness was Constance L. Fisher, an FBI expert on DNA analysis.

Fisher explained the difference between nuclear DNA, which is found in the nucleus of a cell and positively identifies tissues, and mitochondrial DNA, which is found elsewhere in a cell and is less specific.

Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from one's mother, and all maternal family members share the same mitochondrial DNA, Fisher said.

FBI lab technicians used mitochondrial DNA analysis to show that a hair found in the pliers in Peterson's boat was not his and may have come from his wife. That could be crucial if authorities attempt to show the boat was used to transport Laci Peterson's body.

The hair could have come from Laci Peterson's mother or brother, according to Fisher's testimony. Amy Rocha has a different mother.

Geragos spent most of the afternoon going over technical details of Fisher's analysis. Under exhaustive questioning, she said that FBI protocol on such testing has evolved over the years.

Observers packed the 70-seat courtroom Wednesday. Many yawned during complex, technical testimony after lunch, and some appeared to doze off.

Geragos asked many questions about contamination and others based on hypothetical situations.

Fisher said tissues from the same person might test differently if samples were taken years apart. She noted FBI protocol prohibiting her from opening an evidence envelope at one point in testing, to prevent contaminating the hair in question, or the possibility that another hair might enter the envelope.

1 strand becomes 2

Geragos contends that one strand of hair became two after two Modesto police officers checked out the hair from the evidence locker. Prosecutors contend that the single strand simply broke inside the evidence bag.

State law requires a special hearing to determine the validity of a novel scientific technique. Girolami, agreeing to hold such a hearing, noted Wednesday that California courts have not accepted such DNA analysis in cases in which it was offered for forensic evidence.

Prosecutors called Fisher to demonstrate that the process is generally accepted by the scientific community. Twelve state courts across the country and one federal court have ruled that mitochondrial DNA is admissable, according to prosecution documents.

"The court will see that there is nothing new and novel in this particular type of technique," Senior Deputy District Attorney Dave Harris said.

Fisher testified: "Children are learning this in high school. They're doing this in biology labs across the country."

FBI analysts compared the hair found in Peterson's boat with one of his blood samples and to DNA on a test swab designated as "SR2." The hair matched the DNA sample from the swab.

Under cross-examination, Fisher revealed that the swab came from Laci Peterson's mother, Sharon Rocha.

It did not match Scott Peterson's blood sample, contained on a test card, Fisher said. Authorities are likely to have obtained the blood sample after obtaining a warrant for Peterson's "person."

Based on a comparison of the DNA from the hair strand to an FBI database, Fisher said one in every 112 Caucasians would be expected to have the same DNA sequence, as would one in every 159 Hispanics.

Under questioning, Fisher acknowledged that she had never testified in California state court and that this was the first case in which she was testifying specifically about the admissibility of mitochondrial DNA evidence. She has testified 14 times on other DNA-related issues.

At the end of the day, Scott Peterson's mother, Jackie, exited the courthouse holding onto Geragos' arm.

"We're glad it's getting started," she said. "We're praying for wisdom for the court."

Bee staff writer Garth Stapley can be reached at 578-2390 or gstapley@modbee.com.

Bee staff writer John Coté can be reached at 578-2394 or jcote@modbee.com.


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1. "Interesting Article on Mitochondrial DNA"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-03 AT 10:15 PM (EST) by jameson (admin)
 
The Modesto Bee has requested that we not republished their stories in their entirety on the forum.



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2. "Article on Mitochondrial"
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   "...Prosecutors in the Peterson case are using mitochondrial DNA to make a case that a human hair wrapped in pliers in Peterson's boat belongs to his wife, Laci, whom he's accused of killing last year.

The evidence is key to a possible prosecution argument that Peterson used the boat to ferry his wife's body to a watery grave on the day she disappeared from their Modesto home."

...and when/how did Scott Peterson 'ferry' his wife's body? The tracking dogs DID NOT scent Laci in the Peterson 14 ft. fishing boat.

The statement above 'human hair wrapped in pliers' is misleading. In previous reports 'human hair was found near' pliers.

Mitochondrial DNA can eliminate a person but can not positively identify.( i.e. testimony 11/3 William Shields, Professor University Syracuse, NY * see PRELEMINARY HEARING thread Day 4)


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3. "RE: Article on Mitochondrial"
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   The tracking dogs "showed some interest" in the boat (or was it the cadaver dogs who showed interest?).....

Also, I have heard from the beginning both "hair entangled in pliers" and "hair near pliers" when they've refered to the hair found, so who besides investigators actually knows which description is accurate?


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4. "More from Defense:"
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   Excerpts from an article on ABCnews.com:

An FBI crime lab supervisor testified during the preliminary hearing last week that mitochondrial DNA from the hair matched a gene swab taken earlier this year from Laci Peterson's mother, Sharon Rocha.

Peterson's lawyers said Monday the technique is too unreliable to be used in court.

Defense witness William Shields, a biology professor from the State University of New York at Syracuse, testified that while mitochondrial DNA testing can be useful, it is not as precise as other types of DNA testing.

Mitochondrial DNA a molecule that is much smaller than the more familiar nuclear DNA that is used to reveal a person's genetic makeup helped identify victims of the World Trade Center attack. It can be extracted from hair and bones when little else remains of a body.

Peterson attorney Mark Geragos has branded mitochondrial DNA evidence unreliable.

Testifying for the defense, Shields said he was "appalled" at the sample size used by the FBI. Shields said there can be mutations or contamination of mitochondrial DNA that could skew results.

On cross-examination, Shields said he gets as much as 60 percent of his income from testifying for the defense in criminal trials and rarely works for prosecutors. He also said he had never extracted mitochondrial DNA for forensic purposes and is not a forensic scientist.


DragonFly2 says: JUST like the defense witness used yesterday, they've never actually performed the procedure, but they are all set to criticize it!!!! I have a real problem with people who can sit back and tell you what's wrong with something, when they've never actually done it themselves..... I'm not saying they don't have SOME knowledge of DNA testing, but they ARE NOT forensic scientists! Why doesn't Mark get ANOTHER forensic scientist to dispute the prosecution's scientist???

Because he probably cannot find one who would disagree with the findings, that's why. Instead he gets some hired gun who makes 60 % of his income by undermining other people's life's work!


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5. "More from Defense Because..."
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   ....."Defense witness William Shields, a biology professor from the State University of New York at Syracuse, testified that while mitochondrial DNA testing can be useful, it is not as precise as other types of DNA testing."

Not clear what is it 1 in 11 or 1 in 211 would test positive to Laci ?

Geragos is an expert defense attorney and because this is a double murder charge, bring on the experts in the field. I say, bring on Barry Scheck but doubtful he would testify since this is a death penalty case, but he can advise...

WHY didn't the LE, prosecution complete the DNA testing with PRECISE methods, therefor there would be no question. The mitochondrial DNA testing on 1-2 ( questionable strands ) of hair made it necessary to grind the hair to such a minute particle (powder), reveals the hair didn't have a root. Even so, that hair could have transferred from Scott to the tool box at any time, or Laci ( if it was her hair ) transferred herself.

P.S. Yesterday I looked on the soles of pair of my shoes. There across the sole was two strands of my husbands hair. Did I pick it up from the bathroom, off the carpet, the kitchen, entry way, yard, driveway or off the floor mat in our car? OR is it HIS ?


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