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DragonFly2
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Sep-19-03, 11:27 AM (EST)
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""The Innocents""
 
   I've copied and pasted parts of this article I found on CourtTV.com
I thought since things are slow right now concerning this case, we could discuss what none of us want to happen: the conviction of the wrong person for Laci & Conner's murder. I believe all of us want JUSTICE, not just PUNISHMENT for an unfaithful husband.

Personally, from what I've seen so far, I think Scott did kill them. But I'm willing to change that opinion if I see evidence to the contrary.

I thought this was an interesting article about people who have been wrongly convicted:


'The Innocents' exonerated by photography that once betrayed them


By Emanuella Grinberg
Court TV
NEW YORK — William Gregory can't help gushing over the photo of him hanging at the P.S. 1 art gallery in Queens, in spite of what it signifies.

"It exudes so much," he says, describing the sullen portrait of him sitting on the edge of a pool table in a dark bar, wrapped in his fiancée's embrace. "I can see the pain and anguish in my face, the intenseness of what they did to this individual."

"They" — the criminal justice system — arrested Gregory, charged him with rape, attempted rape and two counts of burglary and convicted him, despite the alibi testimony of the woman who holds him in his portrait. He then spent seven years in the Northpoint Training Center in Fayette County, Kentucky until 2000, when he become the state's first inmate to be exonerated through DNA evidence. His release was won through the help of defense lawyer Barry Scheck of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law's Innocence Project.

The photo is one of 45 portraits photographer Taryn Simon took for the book, The Innocents,of wrongfully-convicted men (and one woman) exonerated through DNA evidence. A selection of the portraits will travel across the country to different galleries, a composite image of the realities faced by the men and women who have been exonerated through the Innocence Project's work over the past decade.

The book and the exhibition mark the tenth anniversary of the Innocence Project, a non-profit legal aid clinic that has applied DNA evidence to help exonerate 132 men and women across the United States. It also kicks off the Innocence Project's newest initiative, the Life After Exoneration Project, a program that will help make the transition from prison to life on the outside smoother for exonerees.

........The foreword in The Innocents, as well as the curatorial note introducing the gallery exhibit, describes the photographic mission. "In the cases presented, photography offered the justice system a tool that assisted officers in obtaining erroneous eyewitness identifications, aided prosecutors in securing convictions and transformed innocent citizens into criminals."

Most wrongful convictions, we're told, stem from mistaken eyewitness identifications: "through exposure to composite sketches, mug shots, polaroids and lineups, eyewitness memory can change."

And so, the images in both the exhibit and the book are accompanied by either a caption or a page of text from Simon's interviews with each subject. "I tried to load the photo with as much history and context as possible to confront the viewer with the accusation that was placed upon the people," she says. "It was important to me, because photography had been used in a negligent way to secure their convictions, to be very careful about context in this go-around using photography."

......As for Mr. Gregory, he came out of jail with a goal — to help aid future exonerees in their transition. With the release of this book and the exhibit opening, he is hopeful that may finally happen. "To see my photo and learn about what happened to me helps a lot of other people in prison," he says.

"I don't want to be remembered, I just want to help. I want to encourage people not to give up. I almost did, about five or six times."


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DragonFly2
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Sep-19-03, 11:29 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: "The Innocents""
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   **Most wrongful convictions, we're told, stem from mistaken eyewitness identifications: "through exposure to composite sketches, mug shots, polaroids and lineups, eyewitness memory can change."**

I think this is interesting- and I also think this is what happened with those witnesses who believe they saw Laci that morning.....

Opinions??


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MiLa
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Sep-19-03, 01:40 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: "The Innocents""
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   I believe memory functions differently, or the brain operates differently in how memory is stored and recovered under stressful circumstances such as the commission of a violent act or crime, than it does during ordinary daily activity. experiements have been performed that demonstrate how little info and how inaccurate eye witnesses can be in volitale (sp) situations. i'm not aware of similar experiments or demonstrations comparing the acuracy of memory/eye witnesses in ordinary daily activities to make any comparison, it's just my opinion.

America's Most Wanted seems to have a fairly high success rate of capturing wanted criminals who are turned in by co-workers, neighbors, etc., in the course of daily living.

making a comparison between identifying a suspect based on memory created during a criminal act may be very different than the memory created of witnessing one's neighbor walking her dog in your neighborhood. it comparing apples and oranges, imo.


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DragonFly2
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Sep-19-03, 02:54 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: "The Innocents""
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   That's a good point, MiLa. However, this article didn't make the point of saying the VICTIMS mistakenly identified these wrongfully convicted people.

It could be some of them were convicted due to testimony of people sayng they saw them in the vicinity of the crime, perhaps even by witnesses who weren't yet aware a crime had even been comitted....

The article doesn't get that detailed.

But I do think MiLa makes a very interesting point....

Anyone else?


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Isabella
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Sep-19-03, 07:50 PM (EST)
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   I absolutely agree that I don't want to see the wrong man convicted.

Here's a very interesting link I found, hope it's okay to just paste the link here, whoever wants to read it, please give comments....

http://www.geocities.com/re_justice4all/conner.htm


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Mikiemoderator
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Sep-21-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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5. "My opinion"
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   The innocent go to prison and the guilty roam free. Scott did not kill Laci, but knows who did because he had her killed by someone, just like O.J had someone kill Nicole and Ron, in my opinion. Scott never expected to be arrested because he thinks he is a good liar but in reallity is a stupid one.

I believe it happens often, that the wrong person is convicted and imprisoned. It's all part of a big plan. It's intentional and there's very little anyone can do about it. Laci's killer will kill again and may have already. And nobody will even have a clue who he is. That's what I think.


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DragonFly2
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Sep-22-03, 08:57 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: My opinion"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-22-03 AT 08:58 AM (EST)
 
If Scott hired someone to kill Laci, then he still deserves prison, so I wouldn't say the police "have the wrong man". You could say they just don't have ALL of the guilty persons in this case. And if Laci's killer is still out there, perhaps there is still a chance of LE bringing him to justice before he kills again.

I'm curious, Mikie, how you have come to this theory of Scott hiring someone to kill her....would you mind laying out your complete theory and how you have come to this conclusion?

Myself, I haven't decided if Scott actually killed her himself, but I still think it's likely....the only thing I''ve heard that hints at another person involved is Scott telling Amber on that infamous phone call that he knew who was involved. Personally, I think it was just another lie of his.....there are so many, who can distinguish the truth from the lies?


edited for a spelling error.....


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