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free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:02 PM (EST)
if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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5 . "Also part of the Globe"
Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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6 . "My comments on the article"
Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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7 . "globe article another Kaufmann and Allison LOL "
Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

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the apostle John wrote in the gospels "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you
free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion


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4 . "sigh"
Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:02 PM (EST)
if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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5 . "Also part of the Globe"
Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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6 . "My comments on the article"
Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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7 . "globe article another Kaufmann and Allison LOL "
Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
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  free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
">Alert
| free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


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if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
&name=">IP

free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


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if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
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to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


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if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
">Edit
| free." She wants to be set free from this burden she has carried= her knowledge of what happened
to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:02 PM (EST)
if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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5 . "Also part of the Globe"
Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
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to JonBenet."

Despite Patsy fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering
after ovarian cancer returns is very rare and improvement may simply indicated response to
treatment, without lasting effect.

"There are days,"adds the insider,"When patsy just longs to see JonBenet Again"


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if you ask me, Hodges is nuts.


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Posted by Summer on May-11-02 at 04:18 PM (EST)
John Ramsey's confession: 50 percent of people think I had something to do with it.
Synopsis

While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband Jonn went to
church to talk about JonBenet.

Although he has given interviews to selected TV shows and networks before, he had not stood up in
front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

"A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to do with
JonBenet's death, he confessed. I'm not sure why."

Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta that the brutal
murder was NOT the worst experience of his life. He claims that JonBenet's death was just "a
stepping stone", to finding an increased faith and trust in God."

"Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident...that was the lowest point of my
life. It was also the turning point. I asked "How could God let this happen...I thought I was protected
by God.

Ramsey taled for about half an hour and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about the
deaths of his two daughers.

"I know Satan exists," he told parishoners. (After Beth's death)...he (John) took the advice of a
longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in Colorado where he had a "vision" of the Lord... "He
was not the meek, longhaired...type, he appeared rugged and strong.

"I knew there was such evil in the world that could do this to a small child. People keep asking me
why this happened... I say I don't know.

"The big house, the big bank account, and the job are all gone now, he said with a grin, I look
forward to and have hope for the future, for without hope in life, there is only death in front of us.

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Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 11:15 AM (EST)
First, I did not speak to the reporters from the Globe at all so anything they have from me
was taken directly from the forums.
Second, I believe the "unnamed source" is one person who is NOT an insider and who has no
contact with the Ramseys at this point. I believe she is Rita Johnson, a woman I met in
Atlanta who had tried to get close.... but was exposed as someone who was... well, I will just
say I have been told quite clearly that she has no contact with the Ramseys now. That
woman made my skin crawl.

On to the article:


JonBenét, Cancer-stricken Mom's Bombshell... I'M SORRY!

Patsy Ramsey has confessed that she regrets raising her daughter JonBenét to be a child beauty
pageant princess - because that
probably caused her death, say sources.

I never heard such a thing. I would call this a tabloid lie. While John and Patsy realize
someone may have targeted her at a pageant, he just as easily could have spotted her at the
mall, at school, or in the grocery store. They were caring, careful parents. They didn't leave
the kids with people they hardly knew, they didn't leave them alone. They don't regret the
pageants as JonBenét enjoyed them - they all enjoyed seeing her having fun doing them.

"She now sees it as a terrible mistake" says an insider close to the family. "In one moving family
meeting, Patsy, 45, sobbed, "Im sorry, so sorry."

Family meeting? Give me a break!

Stricken once by cancer, Patsy is on a roller coaster battle for life - with her condition varying day
by day. On April 30, she was separately unwell. Six days later, her condition had markedly improved.

But sources say each day is haunted by the belief that pushing JonBenét into pageants may have
brought about her murder.

The former Miss West Virginia is now convinced that JonBenét's pageant performances may have
caught the eye of a pedophile who broke into the Ramsey mansion and killed the adorable 6 year old.
"At the time, she thought the kiddie beauty shows were all innocent fun, but now she often
apologizes to JonBenét in her prayers, telling her "Im sorry, my darling" says the insider.

...who insists on remaining anonymous because they don't want to be held responsible for
their lies, IMO.

Tired and weak from her renewed battle against cancer, Patsy is continually reciting scriptures that
she hopes will heal her. As
she shuttles back and forth between her home in Atlanta and her medical facility in Maryland where is
undergoing grueling chemotherapy treatments, she clings to the belief that one day she will see her
daughter again to explain just what happened.

Patsy prays. She believes she will be with JonBenét again later. But Patsy has no way to
explain to her daughter what happened - she DOESN'T KNOW! This is yellow journalism, lynch
mob spin, ugly garbage. But the girls got paid for writing it...

Early this year, Patsy - who successfully battled ovarian cancer in the Mid '90's )I would call it
EARLY '90's) - was hit with the news she had dreaded. A routine check at the National Institute of
Heath in Bethesda, MD., revealed new evidence of the disease. "Once again, she was plunged into a
fight for life" says a source. "This time she knows that it will be even tougher to survive."

Actually that is not true. This time the cancer was caught VERY EARLY and it should be a
much easier battle.

During Patsy's first bout with cancer, JonBenét was a 3 year old tyke whose smile and spirit inspired
her to endure the chemo ordeal that helped her beat it. But the stricken socialite now has only
memories of her little girl, and friends say that she is weary of the struggle though still determined to
pull through once again. She is currently enduring a regular and exhausting chemotherapy regimen.

Wow - a reasonable paragraph! How did that slip through? I think the statements would be
true of any person in that position. tired of the struggle, determined to pull through...

One of her close friends, (their words, not mine. I would not say I am a "close friend" - at least
not by my own standards.) Sue Bennett, a North Carolina housewife who has a private Internet
site that keeps up with the Ramsey cause, reported on April 30, that Patsy was not doing well and
was "quiet weak." (Did I say she wasn't doing well? Seems to me that anyone undergoing
chemo has rough times and that was one of those. I didn't indicate she was doing poorly - at
least I didn't mean to. If I did, I apologize.) But after a fourth round of chemo,Bennett was more
hopeful. On May 5 she reported "Patsy sounded great, she said she's having a really good day. The
CT scan shows no cancer. Her prognosis is very, very good."

To encourage her in her fight, Bennett and Patsy's supporters sent a portrait of Christ By Thomas
Kinkade, entitled Prince of
Peace, To JonBenét's Mom just before Easter.

It carried an inscription from the Gospels, John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only Son."

(A photo of the print was included with the article.)
I don't know why the tabloid is afraid to call me jameson or say the name of the group is
WebbSleuths. Maybe they fear people reading this kind of analysis of their work.

I don't think it is nice of them to write about me without contacting me for my input - with an
offer to post what I say unedited. But I do understand that wouldnt' fit into their BORG paper.

The tabloids can do what they like.

Patsy was tremendously moved by the gift and hung it on the wall of the bedroom where she sleeps
while taking chemo treatments. She wrote on Bennett's site how affected she was by the gift when
she returned to her home in Atlanta after a bout of Chemo.

Actually, Patsy doesn't read the forum and she doesn't post there. She is sent information on
the forum at times, sometimes a thread is shared, but I have repeatedly asked John and
Patsy NOT to go to the forums - and I don't believe they do follow the Internet discussions.
The note came to me in email.

"I was just home" she said, "and received the beautiful Kinkade print of the face of Jesus. It is one of
the loveliest gifts I’ve ever
received and the fact that it came from all the sweet people who supported us all these years makes
it extra special"

"I'm keeping the face of Jesus before me and praying all the healing scriptures. I know God has a plan
for all of this and I'm resting in
that peace.
Love to you, Patsy"

She asked for the names and addresses of all the people who contributed to the gift, so she could
send a personal, handwritten thank you to each one. Normally, identities are keep confidential by
Bennett.

For years, both Patsy and her former computer tycoon husband, John, 58, defended beauty
pageants, even thought Patsy was
often attacked over the elaborate costumes she chose for JonBenét and the flirty poses she
encouraged. She even had the little
pixie pose in a Las Vegas Shoe girl costume - almost identical to the one Patsy wore as a college
student during her own beauty
queen career.

When Patsy was first stricken by aggressive stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1992, she believe she would
never see her daughter grow
up. She explains that she wanted to fill JonBenét's life with memories of good times with her Mom. "I
always worried that my
cancer would return," she says "Mother daughter experiences were to be treasure for me. If God did
take me before JonBenét
grew up, I reasoned, I could leave her these memories" Now it seems different, pals say. Regret now
weighs heavily on Patsy,
says the insider. "She often says she will be soon with JonBenét. When that happens, she says that
she'll tell her "Lets talk," and
they'll play together like they used to.

Tabloid writers should take writing classes - we already went oer this material at the start of
the article. Or do they think reading lies more makes them less false?

Since JonBenét's horrific murder in 96, the Ramsey have been under a 'umbrella of suspicion'. But they
have consistently denied any knowledge of the crime, in which JonBenét was battered, garrotted and
sexually assaulted in her Boulder, Colorado home.

They have never been charged.

Maybe that is because the handwritting on the ransom note doesn't match the parents, the
DNA found on the body mixed with JonBenét's blood is not theirs, the cord, tape and stun gun
can't be linked to the Ramseys, neither can the fibers or the foorprint.... Oh, what am I
thinking - the tabloid won't include THAT in the story - - it isn't BORG information!

Andrew G. Hodges, M. D. a top forensic psychiatrist, tells GLOBE that Patsy's desire to write and a
thank her supporters is extremely significant.

If she had not thought of that, that would have been "extremely significant" as well, I am
sure. The BORG spin anything and everything.

Hodges, who has not treated Patsy, says she is actually seeking forgiveness for what she may have
done to JonBenét. The expert consulted with investigators work on JonBenét's murder and wrote two
books about the case, Including who will speak for JonBenét? He is a specialist in psycho linguistics,
who delves in the deeper meaning of written and verbal communications, and identifies what the
uncoiled mind is really saying. "Only Patsy knows what happened on the night in '96," he says.

This is the man who think it is "extremely significant" that the word "cunt" is in the word
"country" and the word "country" is in the ransom note. I think he is a sick, perverted man
who is just out to make a buck - or ten. The fact that he is being used in this article - an
article where I am mentioned - makes me feel ill. Anyone who reads this man's book - really
READS it - knows what he is. I bet the reporters who wrote this article haven't read his book -
I don't think they know case at all. Just got the order - - write something that sounds
negative, girls, here's a couple people who you can count on for a negative quote - - and for
God's sake, don't call jameson!

"I believe that in her message to her supporters she is really saying that she is desperately sorry and
seeks forgiveness. But her inner mind realizes that, according to her Christian code, there can be no
forgiveness until she confesses." "Patsy's words about praying all the healing scriptures are a plea for
mercy before she meets her maker.
As the apostle John wrote in the gospels
"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." She wants to be set free from this burden
she has carried - her
knowledge of what happened to JonBenet."

Personally, I think Patsy likes the gift and wants to thank us for it. I think Hodges might
benefit from electro-therapy or a labotomy or something. Maybe someone can help him so
he won't see such horrible messages in everything around him.

Despite Patsy's fight to conquer cancer once again, some friends fear that time may be running out.
Dr. Herman Catlove, of the
American Cancer Society, who has not treated Patsy, says recovering after ovarian cancer returns is
very rare and improvement
may simply indicated response to treatment, without lasting effect.

Now that was a great quote by a doctor who has no idea what is happening with Patsy the
patient! Whatever.

"There are days," adds the insider, "When Patsy just longs to see JonBenét Again"

Geesh - like that is a surprise?

-Dawna Kaufmann and Lynn Allsion

Dawna and Lynn - Don't you ever care that what you write is incorrect, cruel spin intended to
hurt people to put a few more bucks in the hands of the tabloid fat cats?

Is the money that good that you really don't care? Is it that your consciences are numb or
non-existant?

It's nice to be nice - it is not nice to be a false witness. I wouldn't want to be you when you
conscience kicks in.



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Posted by CarolinaGirl on May-17-02 at 02:22 PM (EST)
the same names keep floating around.

I found many errors or interpretations in the article. It was definately a creative writing in works LOL
all drawn from old material and used out of context

A simple thank you note turned into a full fledged confession.

Glad to be back.
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    Posted by jameson on May-21-02 at 11:41 AM (EST)
    "John Ramsey's Confession...50 percent of people think I had something to do with it."

    While Patsy Ramsey endured another last ditch chemotherapy treatment, her husband John went to
    church to talk about JonBenet.

    Although he has given interviews to carefully selected TV shows and networks before, he had not
    stood up in front of a group of ordinary people and talked about the tragedy.

    "A Gallup poll showed that more than 50 percent of the world think I had something to
    do with JonBenet's death," he confessed. I'm not sure I understand why."

    Amazingly, Ramsey also told about 100 members of a Sunday school class in Atlanta
    that the brutal murder of the 6-year old beauty queen was NOT the worst experience of
    his life. He claims JonBenet's death was just "a stepping stone" to finding an increased faith and trust
    in God.)

    "Ten years ago, my daughter Beth was killed in an auto accident in Chicago, where she
    had gone to meet the family of her boyfriend," Ramsey revealed during his speech at
    the gigantic Church of the Apostles on May 5th.

    "That was the lowest point of my life. It was also the turning point. I asked, "How could God let this
    happen? I had gone to church and
    considered myself a Christian. I thought I was protected by God."


    Wearing a dark blue blazer, tan slacks and a maroon striped tie, Ramsey talked for about half an hour
    and showed few signs of grief as he calmly talked about hte deaths of this two daughters.

    "I know that Satan exists," he told parishoners.

    With a benign smile on his face, he recalled that he was a casual Christian until Beth's
    death. As he retreated spiritually and emotionally in grief and bitterness after the tragic car crash, he
    took the advice of a longtime pal and attended a religious retreat in
    Colorado, where he had a "vision" of the Lord.

    "He was not the somewhat meek, long-haired almost hippie type that I had seen in so
    many paintings and pictures," Ramsey said. "He appeared as very rugged and strong."

    Later, he told the churgoers that he did not cry out and ask how God could let JonBenet
    die.

    "I knew there ws such evil in the world that could do this to a small child," said
    Ramsey, 58. "People keep asking me why this happened."

    As he stared down at the podium, JonBenet's father added in a hoarse whisper, "I say I don't know."

    Before ending his speech and sitting alone in a side pew for the formal church service,
    Ramsey told his spellbound audience that his trust in God is still growing, despite all
    the pain he has endured.

    "The big house, the big bank account and the job are all gone now," he said with a grin.
    "I look forward to and have hope for the future, for without continued hope in life, there
    is only death in front of us."




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    wow. , mommyof2, 02:36 PM, May-21-02
    John, jameson, 03:06 PM, May-21-02
    For a tabloid story, LovelyPigeon, 03:15 PM, May-21-02
    This is the John I know, B, 10:51 PM, May-22-02



    Messages in this discussion


    1 . "wow. "
    Posted by mommyof2 on May-21-02 at 02:36 PM (EST)
    His words inspired me and I'm sure they inspired his Sunday School class.




    2 . "John"
    Posted by jameson on May-21-02 at 03:06 PM (EST)
    I have spent time with John but have never heard him speak to a group. Still, I am sure his talk was a
    lot more inspiring and sincere and "real" than the GLOBE is spinning. They are BORG - couldn't write a
    real honest Ramsey report because they are charter members of the lynch mob and it wouldn't pay
    for them to get honest now.



    3 . "For a tabloid story"
    Posted by LovelyPigeon on May-21-02 at 03:15 PM (EST)
    I think that one comes across positive for John Ramsey. It may just be that I read what John
    (allegedly) said (I'll never trust a tabloid's reporting) from a Christian perspective. Continuing faith in
    God despite such terrible personal losses and false accusations is inspirational.

    John and Patsy Ramsey are good people who have had bad things happen in their lives but have
    continued to be good people.




    4 . "This is the John I know"
    Posted by B on May-22-02 at 10:51 PM (EST)
    I hope he found comfort in this.


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