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Lavender
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Dec-01-01, 12:54 PM (EST)
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7. "I agree"
In response to message #4
 
   "If it doesn't incapacitate, why are people supposed to be buying them?"
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The simple answer is that the stun-gun manufacturers want to make money, and will say anything to convince consumers that there is a benefit to spending money.

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I used to carry a stun gun while in college. I had my brother stun himself and it didn't produce much of a response really. He was standing and it didn't take him down. He likened it to something slightly worse than a light socket shock and was laughing immediately afterwards. Not too comforting when I was using it to protect myself. I never felt that it would completely incapacitate anyone I needed to stun. I felt it might give me a chance to catch them off guard so that I might be able to escape. I was also very afraid that it would end up being used against me. I always had it in a case that was attached to my wrist so that it would be harder to get away from me. It shocked through the case.

Movies portray so many things to exaggeration. Cars rarely blow up when crashed, just as people are rarely knocked unconscious when stunned with a stun gun. Understandably it would be worse on a six year old who is being held down and repeatedly shocked.

Even if her physcial response to the stun gun was not to be knocked out, she could have fainted from the stress. Think he probably slapped the tape on her mouth, wrapped her with the blanket, stunned her and took her downstairs. So even if she didn't faint or wasn't knocked unconscious, the taped mouth and wrapped limbs would have muffled any movement.


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Dec-01-01, 01:00 PM (EST)
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9. "No marks "
In response to message #7
 
   By the way, there were no marks left either. But, he did a jolt and let it go. It wasn't forceably held against him like it would have been on JBR.

By the way, does the current travel through? Does the person stunning have to have a barrier to protect him from being stunned if he is touching the victim???

I fully believe she was stunned by a stun gun. There is no other explination in my book.


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jamesonadmin
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Dec-01-01, 03:08 PM (EST)
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10. "pressed into her"
In response to message #9
 
   Mr. Tuttle jerked his arm away from the stun gun - just as anyone would - - if they could. But if the person were forced to be still - - like a 45 pound child could be if a grown man were pressing her into her bed - the stun gun could be pressed into her body and she would not be ABLE to get away.

The more current, the longer the exposure, the greater the effects.


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Mariene
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Dec-01-01, 03:13 PM (EST)
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11. "Mr. Tuttle did have marks"
In response to message #10
 
   from the stun gun. I watched the presentation live and the folow up also. His arm had marks that spread and looked like bad bruises. it was then that he back peddled and said it "could have been ours" the camera didn't lie when it showed the injuries.


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Dec-01-01, 06:19 PM (EST)
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12. "Alteration"
In response to message #11
 
   1. The marks indicate not only that JonBenet was stunned by a stungun but that it most likely incapacitated her.
2. The effect of the stun gun would, logically, be greater on a child than on an adult.
3. The use would indicate that the user had experimented with the device earlier, probably on an animal.
4. Because the killer was quite adept at electrical devices, I think it is likely that the device was NOT the model air taser as sold, but had been "improved" - increasing the dosage it would give when used. The limited amount of struggle shown indicates the incapcitation caused and I would only hope that those who can't understand the stun gun would recognize that it gives added understanding of the background of the killer: that he WAS adept in electrical matters, even designing circuits as he, indeed, testified he did.


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jamesonadmin
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Jan-16-02, 09:38 AM (EST)
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15. "It is important"
In response to message #12
 
   The stun


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