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"Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
 
   Former DA Alex Hunter was deposed on 11/27/01 -- it was relatedto the Wolf case. Here are some exerpts that should be public now - - let's discuss them - - and PLEASE - - DO carry these to the other forums - - they are the actual deposition questions and answers - - the TRUTH.


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1. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   105

9 Wood: Chief Beckner confirmed yesterday that the

10 investigation had retained the services of Chet

11 Ubowski, obviously through CBI, Leonard Speckin,

12 Edwin Alford and Richard Dusak to at various times

13 perform handwriting analysis on the ransom note in

14 comparing it and analyzing other individuals'

15 writings. You were familiar with those four

16 individuals?

17 Hunter: Yes.

18 Wood: Are you familiar with their results as

19 they pertain to Patsy Ramsey?

20 Hunter: Yes.

21 Wood: Those four individuals are well respected,

22 are they not?

23 Hunter: Yes.

24 Wood: You also know Howard Ryle and Lloyd

25 Cunningham?

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1 Hunter: Yes.

2 Wood: Within the community Howard Ryle and Lloyd

3 Cunningham are highly regarded and well respected,

4 aren't they?

5 Hunter: Yes.

6 Wood: You were given the benefit of Howard Ryle

7 and Lloyd Cunningham's opinions in this matter in a

8 presentation that was done for the investigation

9 through the Ramsey attorneys, correct?

10 Hunter: Yes.

11 Wood: I'm correct that there was not of the six

12 individuals any examiner that identified Patsy Ramsey

13 as the author of the note; am I right?

14 Hunter: That's right.

15 Wood: These were not people who came there to

16 identify her or not identify. These six individuals,

17 understanding two of them were employed by the

18 defense, I think you fairly agreed were trying to be

19 professional, thorough, and objective and reach the

20 right result under their standards of handwriting

21 analysis; am I right?

22 Hunter: Yes.

23 Wood: The sum total of the investigators and the

24 individuals I've been over that with were hired by

25 the Boulder Police Department along with Mr. Ubowski.


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1 With respect to Patsy Ramsey, you have -- it's been

2 described at one point again on a scale that we don't

3 necessarily, I don't know if it's an agreed-upon

4 scale, butfor purposes of trying to discuss the

5 reports, there was a description of a one-to-five

6 scale with five being elimination. And you have

7 publicly acknowledged that the sum total of the

8 handwriting analysis done by the investigation on

9 Patsy Ramsey that you would agree that she was

10 somewhere about a 4.5; is that right, on that scale?

11 Hunter: That's roughly right.

12 Wood: Not eliminated but very close to it, am I

13 right?

14 Hunter: Yeah, I can't remember, you know, I would

15 be more comfortable saying four on that scale. I

16 can't remember the 4.5.

17 Wood: And I think when you were asked about it,

18 you said that that was close, the bottom line being

19 that they placed the chances of her writing the note

20 as I believe you described it as very low --

21 Hunter: Right.

22 Wood: -- is that right?

23 Hunter: Yes, very low.

24 Wood: And without asking for names, there were

25 other individuals who were under suspicion whose

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1 handwriting was analyzed that were not eliminated as

2 the author of the note; am I right?

3 Hunter: That's correct.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That sounds to me like there was an 80-90% probibility that Patsy was NOT the writer of the note.

And a 100% TRUTH that others were not eliminated as the author of the note.

FOX TV is leading the lynch mob at this point - - have no doubt.


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Hester Prynne
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Dec-28-02, 01:49 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   Who were the other individuals not eliminated? Can you post the full deposition?


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3. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   No - I can't post the whole thing.

The others not eliminated? Well, dozens weren't compared who should be - - but of those who WERE compared....

I don't have the fulllist but we know from Beckner's deposition that Chris Wolf was one of them.


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Hester Prynne
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Dec-28-02, 03:35 PM (EST)
 
5. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   Knowing others who weren't eliminated seems very important. It might not make them full suspects, but would give some comparison for analysis of Patsy's score.


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Dec-28-02, 02:08 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   Let's not forget that handwriting analysis IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.
It is merely an educated opinion.

And of course, NO ONE has EVER lied or manipulated the truth while under oath. *LOL*

Cheers,
Orphan


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6. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   And of course, NO ONE has EVER lied or manipulated the truth while under oath. *LOL*

Not the people I know...



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7. "RE: Exerpts from Hunter's Deposition"
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   The excerpts I poster were from non-confidential portions of Hunter's deposition.

Parts remain sealed - but not these pages.

Candy falsely accused me of breaking a law - - I accept her apology for that rudidity. (4 syllables in that last word - - catchy, huh?)


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Dec-29-02, 09:35 PM (EST)
 
8. "RE: An apology"
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   Yes, I do apologize to you Jameson for saying you had broken the law by posting a "sealed document". I did not realize that even though the entire document has been filed under seal, certain parts are "non-confidential". I apologize for this and was very thankful for the correction on this.


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9. "RE: An apology"
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   no problem

I don't usually break laws.


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jamesonadmin
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11. "bumping"
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   because people need to read what Hunter said on the subject.

I would invite posters to read the Beckner deposition as well - - it proves there were others who had handwriting similar to that on the note.


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12. "RE: bumping"
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   Someone posted an excerpt from an Atlanta court document saying Chris Wolf had not been eliminated as the writer of the ransom note by someone named Lloyd Cunningham, I believe.

I looked, but couldn't find the source document, although I did find Wolf's original complaint.

You know anything about this, jams?


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13. "Ubowsky said he did not"
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   Wood asking Beckner... Q So the fact that Ubowski reached the

4 opinion that Wolf, he did not believe, wrote the

5 note, that in and of itself would not eliminate or

6 exclude Chris Wolf from being involved in the crime,

7 would it?

8 A Correct.


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14. "RE: Ubowsky said he did not"
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   Check out Cina Wong thread


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15. "FACTS"
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   The fact is that there is absolutely NO evidence linking Patsy to this murder.

She was with her daughter all Christmas day, she tucked her in bed - - we would expect her to have left hairs and fibers on her daughter - all innocent.

The evidence that can't be innocent - the handwriting on the RN for one, the DNA mixed with JonBenét's blood - - that evidence is NOT pointing to any Ramsey but to an intruder.

The case is with the new team- they will focus on the intruder theory - and it is damn well about time. Maybe now this will get solved - but we need to spread the FACTS - the deposition quotes as opposed to myths and opinions of posters like BobC and Mrs. Brady and others who seem to have big problems with women and mothers.


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16. "RE: FACTS"
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   The depositions prove that Patsy was not the only person whose handwriting was checked who had similarities in the handwriting.

The depositions were Beckner and Hunter telling the truth. (so help them God.)


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