She has the right to speak out about what she said to the grand jury - - so far nothing. I think she is afraid of being sued. They may get her for more than 50 bucks if she lies.

Where is Sick Puppy?

Here--are a few--not necessariy in order of possible guilt:

Santa McReynolds has packed his sleigh, including Mrs Santa, and moved to a small condo on Cape Cod. He occasionally moves in with son, Tristan, who has sold all of his gingerbread houses in Boulder and lives in New York City, Greenwich Village. Jesse, the ex-felon, remains in the mountains in CO.

Glenn Meyer, who has been sighted "everywhere" including the Chicago area, (proved to be bogus) appears to live in both Boulder and a beach town in Florida. Where does he get his money? He was in debt at time of murder to tune of about $100,000. Seems like even the paupers in this case have made good.

Fleet White and wife are still in Boulder doing what the "leisure class" does well--leisuring, with occasional forays into the Pokey (Fleet) and episodes of long, ranting letters to the editor.

Alex Hunter has retired and lives outside of Boulder probably outlining his chapters to his book. Would love to talk to this guy and find out "who" the prime suspect was? He said it would be a surprise. I am assuming that it is one of the "suspects" in the cast of characters.

Where is Sick Puppy?

3 . "Well"
Posted by Joyce on May-10-02 at 04:56 AM (EST)
we ALL want to know that.

4 . "Suspects"
Posted by Wynona on May-10-02 at 12:23 PM (EST)
"He" could still be one of the suspects originally singled out for in-depth investigation.

Here--are a few--not necessariy in order of possible guilt:

Santa McReynolds has packed his sleigh, including Mrs Santa, and moved to a small condo on Cape
Cod. He occasionally moves in with son, Tristan, who has sold all of his gingerbread houses in Boulder
and lives in New York City, Greenwich Village. Jesse, the ex-felon, remains in the mountains in CO.

Glenn Meyer, who has been sighted "everywhere" including the Chicago area, (proved to be bogus)
appears to live in both Boulder and a beach town in Florida. Where does he get his money? He was in
debt at time of murder to tune of about $100,000. Seems like even the paupers in this case have
made good.

Fleet White and wife are still in Boulder doing what the "leisure class" does well--leisuring, with
occasional forays into the Pokey (Fleet) and episodes of long, ranting letters to the editor.

Alex Hunter has retired and lives outside of Boulder probably outlining his chapters to his book. Would
love to talk to this guy and find out "who" the prime suspect was? He said it would be a surprise. I
am assuming that it is one of the "suspects" in the cast of characters.

5 . "Methinks"
Posted by jameson on May-10-02 at 04:07 PM (EST)
Ithink he is talking about Santa McReynolds - but he would have to verify that.

Me - I favor the homeless guy who spent time in the alley behind the church. He has a long history of
sexual criminal behavior, has a history of trying to strangle at least one female with a ligature, he
owned a stun gun, was interested in JonBenét, was arrested for burglary at least once and was in
Boulder at the time of the murder.

The BPD was advised to grab him for a DNA sample - I don't believe they did that.

His name has never been made public - but it is no secret either.

I can't prove he did this - but he is one of my top 10 suspects.

I have a #2 who looks good too - - #2's handwriting is a LOT closer to the ransom note than Patsy's
- - but the BPD doesn't want to hear about that one either. He was in the Boulder area that night,
has a history of violence when he isn't on his medication.... but he is another the BPD has not, to the
best of my knowledge, seriously checked out for this.

6 . "Thomas Aquinas"
Posted by DonBradley on May-11-02 at 07:56 AM (EST)
>Me - I favor the homeless guy who spent time in the alley
>behind the church. He has a long history of sexual criminal
>behavior, has a history of trying to strangle at least one female
>with a ligature, he owned a stun gun, was interested
>in JonBenét, was arrested for burglary at least
>once and was in Boulder at the time of the murder.

At one time, I was very much interested in Thomas Aquinas too. However, there has been no
showing of interest in JonBenet prior to the murder, nor was there any history of using a cord to
strangle someone in any sort of planned crime, only during a heated argument. He has never left
notes at his burglaries and half the players in this case were in Boulder that night.

7 . "The pokey???"
Posted by Joyce on May-11-02 at 08:27 AM (EST)

>Fleet White and wife are still in
>Boulder doing what the "leisure class"
>does well--leisuring, with occasional forays into
>the Pokey (Fleet) and episodes of
>long, ranting letters to the editor.

Gee I hate to ask this, but The Pokey has always been another name for "jail". Do you mean that he
sometimes gets put there? Or was this to mean something else? The word "foray" is not familiear to
me and my dictionaries weigh ten pounds each! (and I don't know where the two of them are - takes
two to do the entire alphabet).

8 . "Sally forth, explore, attack"
Posted by DonBradley on May-11-02 at 03:02 PM (EST)
Pokey does mean 'jail'...almost thirty days of it for his failure to appear when summoned for the
criminal trial on bribery charges of Tom Miller an attorney in Boulder who attended a late-night
meeting wherein a thirty thousand dollar bribe was offered but who claimed, with a straight-face,
that he didn't know what was in the brief case.

10 . "Wow"
Posted by Joyce on May-12-02 at 01:30 AM (EST)
thirty thousand. Gee, if they'd wanted someone to 'conficate the evidence' and 'take away that
temptation', I'd volunteer, and they'd never have to be tempted to do anything with THAT thirty
thousand ever again. I promose!

9 . "foray"
Posted by DonBradley on May-11-02 at 08:02 PM (EST)
Sorry about that, I meant to give you more about "foray".

A raid or a probing attack, a temporary and often unplanned excursion into unknown territory.

11 . "Thomas Aquinas is a reasonable"
Posted by Maikai on May-12-02 at 02:46 AM (EST)
suspect....he's skipped town, and I believe there is an open warrant out for him, because he didn't
report to his parole counselor. He is a registered sex offender in another state....has a history of
violence...history or mental illness. He would have had no where to take JBR that night...and would
have had to walk to the house. I think he is a reasonable suspect. Unless he purposely changed his
handwriting to try to match the ransom note, his "d's" match perfectly....his handwriting is in the
police files, where he filed grievances about people staring at him after he was arrested for something
else. He had a stun gun in his backpack when last arrested...seemed somewhat obsessed with this
case.

There was one particular strange person that worked at Pasta Jay's. I believe it was in the Daily
Camera that he attacked Jay. The Ramseys had dinner there on the 23rd.

Helgoth? He committed suicide(or was it murder?) the same day as Hunter's speech---we will get
you. He owned hi-tech boots...and stun guns. We know nothing about him, but Beckner claims they
checked DNA, and it didn't match.

Everything about the crime and the crime scene smacks of an amateur. Who did the Ramseys know
that may have had a son that was a bit unstable? IMO, stun guns...the kidnapping plan is someone
that was not mature.

12 . "You could be right."
Posted by DonBradley on May-12-02 at 12:14 PM (EST)
>He is a registered sex offender in another
state.
And the offense involved a young girl.

>has a history of violence.
involving the use of a cord, albeit in a spontaneous rather than planned setting.

>the kidnapping plan is someone that was not mature.
I don't think there ever was a kidnapping plan or a kidnapping notion of any sort whatsoever: which
makes it less likely that we are dealing with the immature.

13 . "a good suspect "
Posted by Summer on May-12-02 at 06:15 PM (EST)
I think a good suspect is this one guy- I dont know his name, but he had high tech boots, actually
the print fits the print at the crime scence.

I think maybe this guy could have done it, because right after the one Alex Hunter statement-"We
know who you are, and we will find you!" the day after the statement was made, he killed himself.
They couldnt get any D.N.A because he was creamated. Only if they could have gotten the dNA from
this guy! Does anyone know his name ?

Summer

14 . "answers"
Posted by jameson on May-12-02 at 08:36 PM (EST)
Summer - you are talking about helgoth - he had Hi-Tec boots and a stun gun with him when he
died.

Thomas Aquinas was in Boulder before the murder - would have known the alley well and could have
seen JBR and the rest of the family.

I can't prove prior interest - but he was at the one year memorial service put on by Judith Phillips and
her tabloid friends. There are photos of him there and he appears to be carrying a file held together
with black tape. I could be wrong - but it looked it to me.

15 . "surmise?"
Posted by DonBradley on May-14-02 at 05:16 AM (EST)
". . . I can't prove prior interest - but he was at the one year memorial service put on by Judith
Phillips and her tabloid friends. There are photos of him there and he appears to be carrying a file held
together with black tape. I could be wrong - but it looked it to me. . . . "

Okay, from what we do know about the guy... is he the type to plan such a crime? Is he the type to
write out a lengthy note? Is he going to have prior newspaper clippings about the Ramseys?

Maybe? The attempted strangulation was not planned. It was provoked. I think he is an interesting
suspet who should have been more promplty and more thoroughly investigated, but I don't think he is
the one we are looking for.

16 . "I don't know"
Posted by Myself on May-21-02 at 06:07 PM (EST)
Where all the major players are.

B you have started a thread and run away.
Do you know where all these people are today?

17 . "I have been preoccupied with a personal situation"
Posted by B on May-22-02 at 10:48 PM (EST)
I didn't run away but thought this would provoke more reaction.....

Alex Hunter?(Hopefully enjoying some normalcy to his life!)
Steve Thomas?(Quiet for a change!)
LHP?(Peddling lies as usual.......)
Whites? (Hiding under a rock I presume)
Fernies? No idea
Mr and Mrs Claus? They live in their own world,imo

etc....

18 . "It seems very quiet on this board lately"
Posted by Myself on May-23-02 at 03:17 AM (EST)
I think more people are talking about Danielle at the moment.

But I know what you mean, I would have been interested to hear about what they were doing but I
don't know enough to comment myself.

19 . "I know where."
Posted by DonBradley on May-23-02 at 06:24 AM (EST)
I know where these 'major players' and 'major player wannabees' are: 'where they have chosen to
be'.

Oh sure, Santa/MrsSanta can claim that they are 'hiding out from the media and trying to lead a
'normal' life', but he did try to go to NYC and get some sort of media coverage early on, so he is not
all that opposed to interviews, just free ones.

LHP? She had little control over what happened to her. She did discover that the content of the
'truth' changed the dollar value of the 'truth' and therefore the 'truth' that she told changed, but
very little was under her control. She could have imagined great sums from the tabloids or a book,
but all that was ever possible were a few paltry dollars for a brief interval of time.

Whites? Paranoid? He is able to write letters and file complaints, but 'unable' to appear in court when
he does not want to. So he is probably now equally 'unable' to do anything.

Hunter? Has been politician who handled a case with dignity but not with intelligence or character.
Who cares where he is now?

20 . "Clarification for 'Sam'. Re; Aquinas."
Posted by DonBradley on May-23-02 at 08:55 PM (EST)
Thomas Aquinas a/k/a 'churchmouse' is a name given to a low-life type who has a considerable
criminal history and who is known to have been "very fond of little girls". mean!].

He did have a history of an attempted strangulation of a woman by means of a phone cord that was
handy at the moment.

He used the alley to go to the Aquinas Youth Ministry Hall where he obtained meals for the
homeless/needy and picked up his mail.

He likes stun guns and his subterranean dwelling place had a few poems and photos about JonBenet
when it was last searched after his arrest on unrelated charges. He was in attendance at a
candlelight vigil for JonBenet.

I think he should have been more promptly and more thorought investigated, but I do not think he is
guilty.

21 . "Aquinas? "
Posted by Maikai on May-24-02 at 00:43 AM (EST)
If he made a concerted effort to change his printing (after the murder) like that in the ransom note,
except perhaps purposely changing a couple characters, it's not him. Otherwise, he should have been
checked out thoroughly. I tend to think he's too crazy to have done it----but who knows?

I tend to think the perp knew JR in some way, and had a grudge against him.....a son of someone the
Ramseys knew. I tend to vacillate on this...but the note does seem personal...like a catharsis.

Grudge, personal, catharsis... all these things may well be true, but not one of them requires ever having met any of the Ramseys at all.

>but not one of them requires ever having met
>any of the Ramseys at all.

Except for those emotional, knee-jerk reactions that the BPD and the tabloid readers had about 'the parents did it because its always the parents who did it', there is very little, if anything, that ties the murderer to the family much less to prior knowledge about the family or prior acquantancehip with the family.

Now ofcourse that darn ransom demand does leap to mind, but suppose the demand had been for 'a billion dollars'...its an equally absurd amount, but it would correspond with the recent publicity about AccessGraphics. No one would then be saying that it had to be some 'inner circle' type. The main support for the 'inner circle' theory is that the 118,000 just happens to approximate rather closely some after-tax, net figure on an annual bonus. It probably has some particular meaning to the intruder and is unrelated to the bonus amount. Certainly, if it is related to the Merrick dispute, then it would be someone who knew Merrick but almost certainly not someone who knew the Ramsey family.

but some places throw out old reports rather than shred them first. I don't know what AG did with their stuff but if some was thrown out, someone else could have found it. I understand there is a big deal about others going thru trash looking for credit card stuff, altho that story may have been used just to sell shredders.

Of course if the perp wandered around in the house first, they might have seen the pay stubs that I understand had that amount on them.

But I still can't figure out why the perp, if he was in the house way before they got home, didn't use their computer and printer to write the note? Then it would look even MORE finger pointing being it written on their computer.
But then again as I said before, perhaps the perp wasn't trying to emulate the Ramseys printing style or point any finger but just write something long and drawn out and perhaps PURPOSLY hard to read as a DELAY to give him time to get out if he was still there when they found her missing. For all he knew, they might find her missing right after he took her; he wouldn't know that and so he left the long note as the 'delay' to keep them busy.

It was done mainly for entertainment and for an interesting exercise in leading the police astray with a good chance that it would also ensnare the parents.

The note points everywhere... and therefore serves for more than just a 'cat and mouse' game.

Besides the possibility of attempting to avoid any implication whatsoever of either Patsy or John in the murder, one of the reasons to point away from the Ramseys is that there might be something unknown about the particulars, especially something that might very easily exclude the Ramseys; it's better to be nonspecific and point away from the Ramseys and towards some mysterious stranger. Having six billion suspects is better than having two or three. No matter how many strangers are eliminated, there are still billions more. Pointing to the Ramseys is too close to home; we all know that close friends and neighbors are next in line. Start the cops out at the other end of the line. (The answer to the question as to why point to anyone at all is the same, namely that close friends and neighbors are automatically very near to the front of the line of suspects.)

There are a million holes to poke in this starting with the length of the note. But it is a thought I still have once in a while.