When I started reading on this case, I was convinced that the father must have done it. The whole thing sounded too weird and I couldn't believe that her body would have been in the house that long without someone knowing. Then I learned that the house was six and a half thousand square feet and it would be likely that someone could break in and kill a girl in the basement room while her parents slept on the third floor. For a while I thought that Thomas' theory was plausible and that Patsy could have killed JonBenet in a rage. But with time I think I have realised that I just don't believe a theory like that. I can't believe that someone could have turned around and killed their daughter without showing some kind of prior mania, some kind of depression, a call for help or some disturbance. Surely someone would have noticed something in the past? And this doesn't even include the DNA and the stungun. Even if there were no DNA and no stungun I would still feel the way I feel.

I believe that the BPD might have also tried to turn witnesses against the Ramseys and that it was a very stressful time. That could be why LHP was shown the photo of the bed that the Ramseys later claimed not to have been a proper reflection of the state of the bed after the abduction. It could also have been why the Whites and the Ramseys have experienced a rift, I don't know. I think that maybe no malice was intended from the start but it has been the result of a big miscommunication. It happens to the best of us.

So after all that, I am left with what I believe. And for the record, I would like to state that after all these years of following this case, I have come to the conclusion that the Ramseys are innocent of any wrongdoing. Now I may be wrong. But the evidence that I have seen to date convinces me of their innocence rather than their guilt. And I needed to say that. I have been a fencesitter for far too long.

I'm sorry, I know this is the 40 godzillionth time I've said this over the years, but here it is. If anyone proves me wrong, I'll eat my earmuffs.

In the history of the United States (and probably further out than that) no BIOLOGICAL parent has ever MURDERED their child WHEN there was NO HISTORY of DRUG/ALCOHOL abuse, or MENTAL HEALTH issues.

Susan Smith, you ask? NO! She was a sexually abused child. Next guess?

Dr. Dobersen also told me that there is NO WAY to tell when JBR ate that pineapple. She could have eatten it at 3 or 4 in the afternoon before going to the Whites for dinner. Since no one paid attention to what she ate at the Whites', they can't tell anything about the pineapple and when it was consumed.

But we know it had passed completely through the stomach and that takes a while. Think about when a kid vomits - - they empty their stomachs, not their intestines. Sometimes that stuff is in there for hours. How many times have you been called to a child's bed because...???

The pineapple - - when it was eaten is never going to be resolved, IMO. But there is more to learn about pineapple in that house. The one bowl of pineapple was not the only evidence of pineapple in that house.

ALSO, Patsy said she didn't serve that pineapple - - would NOT have served pineapple in a bowl like that. And - - what if you heard the spoon in the bowl was not a teaspoon - -- would that make you think twice that maybe it was a kid who got that out? It did me. My kids would eat with the nearest utensil, didn't matter it is wasn't the right one if it worked. Using a fancy pickle fork or cheese knife or serving spoon was "fun". I remember going to one house where the kids actually had forks that had the prongs bent - - purposely - - thought it was great fun and the parents said they ate more.

Just food for thought.

Do we know if the picture shown to Patsy by the BPD (shown on 48 Hours Investigates) was taken before or after the kitchen was cleaned up by the friends they invited over?

you are saying that there WAS pineapple in a bowl and it was not the bowl that Patsy used normally and she did not serve it but that either JBR or the intruder must have served it? is that it?

But who in the world would serve a child pineapple of all things before killing her?

And is it usual to serve pineapple out of a bowl with a teaspoon? Wouldn't you expect that the spoon would be larger?

I am saying that John and Patsy did not feel the set up with the pineapple in that bowl was normal - they thought it was strange.

No one has explained the set up. I would love to know what the people who were in the house on the 26th have to say about the things left on that table - - and not just the bowl of pineapple.

Patsy's prints were on the bowl, not on the spoon or the glass as far as I know.

The glass - - that was not "normal" either. The truth is that the glass had a teabag in it - and under what circumstances would you think THAT would happen? If you are using a tea bag to make tea, you are using boiling water and you do NOT use a glass. The glass would break.

BUT, I can picture someone making tea on the 26th, ramoving it from the cup of tea and dropping it in a dirty glass left on the table (rather than go to another room to find the trash can.)

There are many unanswered questions about the items found on that table.

And there was pineapple found elsewhere in the Ramsey house - - the BPD has sat on that a long time - - I think they should talk about it - - it may jog someone's memory of where that pineapple came from - - and when JonBenét may have had access to it.

Do you really think that a visitor on the 26th would make a cup of tea and leave the teabag in a glass on the table?

I don't think that the sort of people who would visit the Ramseys would do that, they were there to help their friends who were upset and it is very rude to just leave your rubbish lying around.

But otherwise? No, that does not make sense either.

I had not realised that there were a lot of other things on that table? I wonder if they were all random or if they were linked together in some way.

The breakfast room that was between the kitchen and the formal dining room.

>Did they ask the Ramseys if they were aware of what had
>happened with the teabag?

Sure - they didn't know what the story was with the glass with the tea bag in it. Wasn't theirs. But understand, the photos of the table were taken after the body was found and the house cleared. There had been a lot of people in that room between breakfast or lunch on the 25th and the afternoon of the 26th. I am more interested in what others in the house that day had to say about the pineapple and glass. But there is no hint of what they said out there.

Too many secrets, the truth should be told. Maybe someone in the house that day could clear up all the questions about the items on the table that morning. Maybe the Grand Jury got those answers - - would be interesting to find out just what came out in there.

>If someone was to sit down and eat pineapple in that house
>then it had to be someone who was not afraid of getting
>caught in that house and also someone who would have known
>JBR, no?

Personally, I think Burke and/or JonBenét may have gotten the snack out before going to the Whites. There was pineapple in the dish - - someone could have gotten it out and not had the chance to eat it becuse they were all rushed out the door. I don't think the pineapple is important here. JMO.

>Was JBR eating the pineapple or the perp? If she was sitting
>there eating pineapple then she could not have been stun
>gunned while she was still in bed, could she?

The pineapple was not in her stomach - - it was in her intestine. I don't think it was eaten after they got home from the Whites'.

>I had not realised that there were a lot of other things on
>that table? I wonder if they were all random or if they were
>linked together in some way.

I think they were pretty random - - there were many people in the house on the 26th - - the room was busy and I am sure people were sitting in there or passing through and moving things. The activity in there means the room was not preserved as it should have been. ALL the people in that house that morning should have been asked exactly what food they handled that day - - and what they touched in any of the rooms. I hope it happened, don't have a lot of faith it did.

I've never had any real doubts, since I've always considered this to be a home invasion that went undetected and that it was merely tabloid generated hypermania and police incompetence that we have been dealing with.

Alot has been in doubt it this case, including pineapple remnants that simply do not seem to have much bearing on the case. There is no reason to assume she ingested the pineapple during the night, but there is no reason for the Ramseys to lie about any bowl that is there. Its there house, a bowl being there is not incriminating.