I wonder if these posters actually think that someone who received some junk mail about security which included a foreign language videotape that was tossed on a shelf but not viewed and not discarded is therefore guilty of murder. And then I think: would such posters somehow be excluded from a jury? And I realize that no, they would not be excluded.

Frightening.

How did we become a nation of fools that would lower the standards of critical reasoning to such abysmally shocking levels.

What I find fascinating is the attempt by the various B**G posters to tie JR to a stun gun via this tape while saying at the same time THERE WAS NO STUNGUN.

It sounds to me like they aren't so sure.

I remember when people first heard about the death, it was so easy to blame the mother who was having a problem because she was about to turn 40 - - like most of us haven't passed through that without killing our kids.

But when they heard about the garotte - - it was harder - - what mother could take that time torturing her own child? Even the monster Susan Smith didn't do it "hands on" - - and she had a motive and mental problems! Nothing in Patsy's past indicated she ever was violent or cruel - - many felt she might lash out in rage but NOT do that slow strangling that was evidenced here.

Others hung in there following the PDI theory but even Geraldo Rivera stepped back when they passed the polygraphs. I remember he wouldn't have any part of the effort to discredit Gelb and Baxter. His show that night was honest - - he just had to accept that there was a great hole there - - the polygraphs were very important.

The stun gun - - the BORG has been so SURE there was no stun gun - - the marks were maybe from a loom or a snap - - but since those explanations really don't explain those marks being like the marks on Boggs or on Dobersen's pigs - - they say the stun gun may have existed but even then it was the parents - - never mind there is NO record of them owning one - - no one ever knew of them having access to one and certainly no one found it in the house - - they just say they had this video (unviewed and NOT on stunguns but on personal security)and they figure that ends the debate.

It doesn't.

There is plenty of exculpatory evidence in this case - - the BORG just refuses to see or discuss it.

Evidence is never exculpatory if you really and truly just don't want it to be exculpatory.

That certainly would appear to be the case in the forums. Although I'm not 100% committed to the use of a stun gun, it does seem to be the most reasonable explanation for the marks on JonBenet's body. I think the snap, boat, light switch, etc. simply don't come close to measuring up to a stun gun as possible sources of the marks.

But, to say, THERE WAS NO STUNGUN simply does not match the information we have so far. The question is, does anyone truly - I mean TRULY - believe that a snap was more likely to cause two sets of equidistant marks than a stun gun? And, could they really think that a snap was so much more likely to be the source that a stun gun can be completely eliminated as even a possibility?

I don't think so.

Dr. Spitz' proof that a stun gun wasn't used was for us to "just look" at the difference between the marks on the pig and the marks on the body. He was there to present the opposing viewpoint, yet he couldn't tell us why the difference in appearance was meaningful. Then he went on to say if we only had a microscope we could see the boat, which may be one of the most pathetic attempts to convince an audience of something I've ever seen. That was really disappointing. I really don't want to embrace the use of a stun gun, but a couple of more visits with Dr. Spitz and I will have no choice.

....they had to come up with something.

I was waiting for the BORG to suggest Patsy did it while sleepwalking.

Maybe that will be a tabloid story NEXT week!

I thought it was a hoot... but it does show the level of critical reasoning skills that are out there.

After finding JR molesting JBR, Patsy went out to the garage and got her tire iron out of the trunk to hit JR, but missed and hit JBR instead. She was unable to dispose of the body because she had locked her keys in the trunk.

Patsy found JonBenet eating pineapple and got so mad she hit her over the head with a flashlight, then put her on her new bike and pushed her down the stairs to the basement.

I especially like the 'mad about eating pineapple'.
I guess, since it was JonBenet's favorite snack that Patsy probably got mad alot and killed JonBenet several times.

Yep, locked the keys in the car.
Ain't got no spare keys and ofcourse John and Patsy have only one set of car keys between them. According to nightclub comedians, wives are always going through their husband's pockets at night, but somehow this skill eludes Patsy and she is unable to take her husband's keys.

Yet, these people could wind up as jurors.