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DonBradley
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Oct-15-02, 11:47 AM (EST)
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"Calling the Kettle Black: libel"
 
   It appears that tabloid reporter Jeff Shapiro is suing Larry Schiler of PTPM fame for implying that Shapiro was involved in a tabloid scheme to blackmail Steve Thomas.


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jamesonadmin
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Oct-15-02, 01:08 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Calling the Kettle Black: libel"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-16-02 AT 07:57 AM (EST)
 
Was Shapiro in on it?

Shapiro always told me he was NOT in on it - - that he had gone to Thomas' house to warn Thomas about the plot to threaten to expose his mother's suicide (which never happened, from what I understand) if Thomas didn't start leaking a lot more. Thomas wouldn't sit and listen to Shapiro, threw him off his property - - that is what Shapiro told me.
Thomas was asked if he wanted to sue the tabloid for the implied threat (a package of photos was sent to his house) but Thomas said no - - he was not interested. I remember thinking at the time that Thomas didn't want everyone talking about who had leaked to who - - - made sense to me.

Now it seems Shapiro is going to blow THAT sealed door wide open.

I have a few conflicting thoughts on that issue. Next post.


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jamesonadmin
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Oct-15-02, 01:22 PM (EST)
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2. "questions"
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   What was the libel? Yes, I know Jeff says he called the FBI but - - technically - - was what Schiller wrote a lie? Did the FBI not talk to Shapiro? And wouldn't you think they asked him if he, himself, was not perhaps part of the plan? Hell - - I asked that myself!

I remember Shapiro coming to me once saying the Globe was going to publish a story about me - - not a thing he could do to stop it - - but he wanted me to give him an interview because - - he actually asked if I wouldn't rather get it from a friend. (the shaft) That's how I remember the conversation going - - and I told him no - - I didn't want to be part of any story but if I was going to get screwed over, I would rather it NOT be by someone I knew.

I wondered when the Thomas crap happened if they weren't playing that game again - - not Good Cop/Bad Cop but vicious tab reporter/friendly tab reporter.

OK - - so if the FBI did talk to him - regardless of who initiated the call - - and if they did suggest maybe he was part of the plot to get his reaction.... Schiller may have been spinning a bit but - - Hello - - - isn't that what Shapiro's job was and wasn't he so proud to be in Schiller's book?

Pot calling kettle black, indeed.

Question 2 - - - exactly what damage did that bring about? I would think Shapiro lost his job at the Globe for taping his bosses and bringing those tapes to the authorities - - so he didn't lose his job because of what was written in the book. He wasn't charged with anything - - - so no damage to his criminal record. He didn't have a nervous breakdown. Didn't lose a fortune. So exactly what damage? I hope someone will tell me what it is so perhaps I could sue myself! I mean, I got rougher treatment in at least two books!

Question 3 - Does anyone else think that this might be the result of the break in the Schiller/Shapiro relationship and the nasty way Schiller portrayed Shapiro in his movie? (Personally, I thought that was a very obvious attempt to hurt Shapiro's feelings after telling the boy he was going to be the star!

Finally, not a question but a statement. I think the lawsuit is merely a means to an end. Shapiro wants certain information out there and this lawsuit is one way to get it done.

I think he wants Schiller and Thomas and others to speak out - - it will make people interested in the case again and maybe a publisher will jump on the book (which I personally think should be published as it would open many eyes to how bad things actually were.)


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Maikai
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Oct-15-02, 11:17 PM (EST)
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3. "Yes, a method to his madness,"
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   publicity for the case, and perhaps exposure to where the leaks were coming from.


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jamesonadmin
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Oct-16-02, 08:01 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Yes, a method to his madness,"
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   Like LHP and Merrick and Miller and Tracey, Shapiro has a book. Last I knew, he was looking for a publisher to go with it.

Don't get me wrong - - I am all for his book being published. He was right there and saw a lot of things - - what Hunter did and he was tight with Judith Phillips and Frank Coffman and LHP and.... it is interesting to hear him talk and I think it would be a good book.


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LovelyPigeon
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5. "Sounds like"
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   more tabloid trashiness to me.

Is that single line libel? It doesn't seem to be, but Shapiro might get his day in court where we find out what a jury or judge thinks.

Ramsey was the biggest and most exciting time of Shapiro's life. He may just want some of that back, even momentarily.


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