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"The Scream and Clang"
 
   Melody Stanton, married with older sons at home, lived across the street, slept withher window open a bit. She heard a scream that night - between midnight and 2 am. Her husband reportedly heard a clanging sound that could have been the window grate being dropped backinto place.

Unfortunately, their story has changed more than once and I don't know what to think of the story anymore. I to think their first report was the most honest and the later stories were, IMO, an atempt to get removed from the case as witnesses. This case is not a comfortable thing to be associated with.


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1. "The megaphone"
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   there is a duct pipe that acts as a megaphone - carrying sounds from the basement out to the street. the same sound inthe basement is barely heard on the third floor -- the sound just doesn't carry up three floors in a house of carpet, furniture...

I have been in the house when experiments were done - - I KNOW this.

Thomas said a scream could be heard. I won't say there is NOSOUND when there is a racket in the basement, but I would swear that it wouldn't wake anyone up, not even the lightest sleeper. Only someone paying close attention, LISTENING FOR sounds, would even NOTICE the sounds from the third floor bedroom.



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2. "Outside"
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   Don't know if it is the altitude, or the crisp winter air, but when I am out there in December or January, sounds inthat neighborhood carry VERY WELL. I remember walking up the block with Frank Coffman and we could clearly hear a conversation taking place several houses away on the side porch of the Barnhill house. We could also hear the boys in the Ramsey house kidding around when we were inthe alley behind the house - - the side door mush have been open.

But the Ramsey bedroom - with no windows in the front and thick sealed windows on the side - - the room is really insulated from all sound, inside and out.


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3. "The Scream"
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   Melody Stanton first said that she felt JonBenet's "negative energy" that night. She later changed her story, saying that it was actually an auditory scream. I find it very questionable whether an auditory scream occurred at all.

John and Patsy's bedroom was on the third floor and Burke's bedroom was on the second floor. I think we should also keep in mind that Burke did not report hearing a scream.


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4. "Melody"
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   I think the new investigator needs to talk to all the people who were in that house that night - - I doubt Melody woke Luther up because there was "negative energy" coming from the Ramsey house.


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5. "Honey, wake up!!"
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   Honey, wake up, I hear a prowler downstairs is understandable; 'Honey, wake up, I heard some negative energy' is absurd.

The scream/clang may help pinpoint the time a bit more, though that doesn't help much.

The megaphone illustration on the show may help some non-believers.

But I don't think the scream caused any subsequent flight.


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6. "DonBradley"
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   >Honey, wake up, I hear a prowler
>downstairs is understandable; 'Honey, wake up,
>I heard some negative energy' is
>absurd.

When people change their stories, you may never know the real truth. In New Age Boulder, Melody Stanton could have woken up her husband if she felt "negative energy".

If the murderer put duct tape over JonBenet's mouth right away, then there might not have been an audible scream.


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7. "If you have ever been..."
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   awakened by a child's scream there is a great deal of confusion. I have been and the mere fact that the scream was the thing that awakened you makes you question whether it actually happened or whether you dreamed it. Unless the child screams again, and you are wide awake to hear it and reference your bearings from the first scream, you may never actually be sure what you just heard.

The fact that Melody Stanton woke her husband is pretty convincing that she did indeed hear something that woke her up with adrenaline. Give him time to completely come awake and hear the scraping or clanging noise and you have about the same time lapse as it would take for an attacker to flee after a scream. Can be compelling evidence.


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8. "Update to the evidence section."
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   Sweebie had asked reporter Frank Coffman to ask Melody Stanton about the scream. Melody Stanton said that she did not hear a scream on the night of the murder. I, personally, believe that. Some posters on this forum are not confident that there wasn't any scream on the night of the murder.


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9. "Another clue that was totally,,,"
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   under investigated. All they investigated is where it could have been heard. Could it have been heard on the third floor, and could it have been heard by Ms. Stanton.
The scream needed to be studied. A full unbiased study of the scream would have detectives using a girl similar to Jon-Benet screaming. She would scream from evey possible position and location with Ms. Stanton lying in her bed.
She screamed from the ONLY place in that house where her scream would be heard outside.
A full, unbiased study would try to dupicate the scream in every possible detail.
It could tell you where she was standing and even the direction she was facing. It could even tell you how close the killer(s), were from her when she screamed.

The only thing Thomas wanted to know was, could it be heard upstairs. It never occurred to him that if Patsy was in the basement the scream would have to be heard by John who was under the influence of a sleping pill.

The scream could have been studied as to it's loudness and length. Two or three seconds would have been like an eternity! How do you shut her up?
The original statement by Ms. Stanton was that it was a "Horrifying" scream, but just one! Sounds like someone, "Shut her up."
That had to be caused by one of two things: the stun-gun, or, the blow to the head.
If they had used the stun-gun to silence her, then why the blow to the head? Stunning someone is a far cry from murder, unless, she recognised someone. If that was the case, then they would have a terrible decision to make, wouldn't they?
(The murder and subsequent cover-up).
Now, they not only had to murder her, they would have to cover it up. Could that be why there seemed to be so much staging of the murder scene?
Penetrating her then covering it up, sounds a lot like staging to me. The piece of tape wasn't applied until AFTER she died! That's staging. The fact that the rope and noose was made at the scene and her nightgown being brought down but not used, tells me the crime changed. (The scream)?
As it is, this clue, like so many others, was totally biased and poorly investigated.


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10. "Update "
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   Melody Stanton has said she heard the scream on the night of Dec. 23rd, not the 25th which was the night that JonBenet was murdered. Apparently, there was misinformation in the police report.


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11. "Miranda"
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   When police first asked neighbors what they heard or saw the night of Dec 25th, Melody Stanton said she heard nothing. She later said she made that statement because she did not want to get involved.

When a detective talked to her 2 days later, she said she heard a child's scream between midnight and 2 a.m. During that interview, she made a comment about "negative energy" but when the detective asked her for more detail, she ignored him. The detective did not include "negative energy" in his report. A year later, the detective told some other policemen on the case about the "negative energy" remark, and he was told to amend his report to include it.

When reporter Shapiro talked to Melody Stanton months after the murder, Melody told him she heard a child's scream coming from the Ramsey house because she slept with her window open. She said she awakened her husband Luther, but the scream had ended & he did not hear it. According to Melody, later that same night Luther heard a noise that sounded like a chain clinking on a flag pole.

4 years later (in 2001), Frank Coffman talked to Melody Stanton and she said she heard a scream but thought it was on December 23 not December 25.
Frank reported this conversation on internet discussion forums and in email to various posters.

It has never been stated that Luther Stanton was personally interviewed by either police, Shapiro, or Coffman.


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12. "Did anyone ever"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-20-02 AT 06:52 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON Mar-20-02 AT 06:51 AM (EST)

Did anyone ever imagine what the time lag was?
There would've had to have been some time between the scream and when the perp left, and was the time lag between when his wife woke him up and the 'clanking sound' enough time for that?

>When a detective talked to her 2
>days later, she said she heard
>a child's scream between midnight and
>2 a.m. During that interview, she
>made a comment about "negative energy"
>but when the detective asked her
>for more detail, she ignored him.

Someone who is awakened by what they think is a scream may wonder later if indeed it was part of a dream, (or 'negative energy'). I have been awakened by such and I heard it twice before I got out of bed and stood listening by the wall. (My mother educated me to not look out the drapes least I cause someones target direction to change towards us). When it was repeated a third time, I recoginized it as the sound of a wailing cat. Had I only heard it once, I might have thought I'd just drempt it, in fact, that's why I didn't get out of bed when it first woke me up; I didn't know if it was real or not.

>According to Melody, later that same
>night Luther heard a noise that
>sounded like a chain clinking on
>a flag pole.

I first read someplace that he heard a sound like "paint cans being moved over concrete". Which is it? The two sounds aren't simular.


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