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"Thomas depo 38 - polygraph questions"
 
   Q. A couple weeks before that there had been an article in the National Enquirer disclosing the
enhanced 911 tape enhancement about Burke Ramsey, right?

A. I don't know that.

Q. Did you tell Shelly Ross about that before you made the appearance on her show, the 911 tape
enhancement?

A. No, as I said, I don't admit any such thing of sharing that information with Shelly Ross.

Q. Do you deny it?

A. Yeah, again I didn't share that as I sit here today or have any recollection of sharing that with
Shelly Ross. Yeah, as a matter of fact, upon reflection, Mr. Wood, I categorically deny that because I
remember at the time the suggestion that I may have been the source of that, and I absolutely was not.

Q. And you would take a polygraph on that, wouldn't you?

MR. DIAMOND: I'm not going to let him answer that question.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Would you take a polygraph examination conducted by an independent and
impartial examiner on your role as a source for some of these stories while you were actively
investigating the JonBenet Ramsey case?

MR. DIAMOND: I'm not going to let him answer that question. It's improper Move forward.

MR. WOOD: So on advice of counsel --

MR. DIAMOND: Yes. If you have a discovery request, make it of me.

MR. WOOD: I'm just asking him if he would be willing to take one.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Did you ever send a letter formally requesting a polygraph examination of
Patsy Ramsey after the April 30, 1997 interview?

A. I don't believe so.

Q. Did you ever make any formal request for a polygraph examination of Patsy Ramsey after the
April 30, 1997 interview?

A. Certainly we hounded Pete Hofstrom about it.

Q. I didn't ask you about Pete Hofstrom. I want to know whether you asked Patsy Ramsey or her
lawyers formally will you submit to a polygraph examination after April 30, 1997?

A. There was a chain of command. I didn't deal directly with Patsy Ramsey or her attorneys but I
did not personally draft such a letter.

Q. Are you aware of any formal demand made by the Boulder authorities on Patsy Ramsey after
April 30, 1997, before you left in August 1998, to submit to a polygraph examination after April 30?

A. It was very clear that the police department leaned on the DA's office to do exactly that. And
the fact that the DA's office chose not to was to the chagrin of the Boulder Police Department.

Q. So the answer is you're not aware of any request being made?

A. The answer is just what I answered, Mr. Wood.

Q. Even after Patsy Ramsey said she would take ten of them when you asked her the question
hypothetically on April the 30th, 1997, right?

A. Right what? Was a formal request made?

Q. Yeah, when she said -- you asked her hypothetically, if I ask you to take one and she said, I'll
take ten of them, do whatever you want, and you're telling me for whatever reasons, politically I guess
is your explanation, but whatever the explanation is there was never a demand made on Patsy Ramsey
to take a polygraph examination after April 30th, 1997, prior to when you left in August of 1998, true?

A. I don't know that she was ever sent an engraved invitation to take a polygraph but I think it was
pretty clear, Mr. Wood, of the police department's position and through the district attorney's office
that the Boulder Police Department wanted John and Patsy Ramsey to submit to law enforcement
sponsored polygraph examinations.

Q. And do you all usually do those on engraved invitations?

A. No.

Q. Why did you misrepresent the truth then in your book when you said that the book was going to
be the inside story answering a wide range of important questions, including why were the Ramseys
handled with kid gloves and never asked by law enforcement to take lie detector tests?

MR. DIAMOND: I'm going to object --

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Were they asked or not asked by law enforcement to take a lie detector
test? I'm trying to find out the truth of the investigation.

MR. DIAMOND: Do you want to withdraw the first question and have him answer the second
question?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Do you understand the question? Here is your book jacket. You saw it
before it hit the stands, didn't you?

MR. DIAMOND: Which are we answering?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) This one right here. Did you see this --

A. Book jacket, yeah.

Q. -- book jacket before it hit the stands?

A. Yes, sir, that would be my book jacket --

Q. There it is.

A. -- before the book went into the --

Q. Right.

A. Retail store.

Q. Let's just try to make this clear. I just want to know what the truth is. Were the Ramseys asked
by law enforcement to take lie detector tests or not?

A. Yes, and I believe you know that because read the transcript of my interview with your clients
from April 30, 1997, and I think even Alex Hunter has said a monkey could understand that polygraph
examinations were being requested.

Q. Now we believe Alex Hunter on that point; is that what you're telling me?

A. As I said, Alex Hunter says a lot of things but I happen to agree with his assessment that is borne
out by the transcript of that interview.


My note - - Thomas asked the Ramseys if they thought they would pass a polygraph, how they would respond if asked to take one - - he never asked them to take one or tried to set up an appointment for such a test. The transcripts are out there - we have them. Maybe Thomas needs to read them.


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1. "FBI / polygraph questions"
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   Q. Page 75 of your book. The second paragraph "The FBI would tell us that the disposal of the
body of JonBenet had the classic elements of a staged crime, complete with a Hollywoodized ransom
note." Was there any specific member of the FBI that you attribute that statement to?

A. The meeting in I believe it was August or September of 1997.

Q. Quantico?

A. In Quantico at a big, many, many people in the room.

Q. If I hear you throughout this testimony and it seems to me and from your book, the FBI was
heavily involved in this investigation from early on; wouldn't you agree?

A. They were very supportive of us and involved, yes.

Q. Yeah, I mean, they were heavily involved for a case that really was not a federal jurisdiction
case, a murder?

A. Arguably.

Q. I mean when I was out there saying, you know, I didn't think the FBI is objective because they've
been involved in this case to a significant amount, whether you agree or not with my objectivity
conclusion, I was right about the fact that the FBI had been significantly involved in the case, wasn't I?

A. For the record I don't agree with the objectivity conclusion but, yeah, they were significantly
involved in the case.

Q. It seems like from what you're telling me that they were of the mind that you were, that Patsy
Ramsey they thought was involved in the death of her daughter?

A. That certainly seemed to be my impression.

Q. So whether that was an objective decision by then I certainly was right to have some concerns
about whether or not they had formed such a conclusion before I submitted John or Patsy to the FBI
examination, wasn't I?

A. Well, twofold. One, I don't think they would have -- I don't think there was anything
inappropriate with their polygraph unit or that they would have conspired in any way with their
polygraphers.

Q. I also comment to you the ruse interview that was attempted on Richard Jewell by the FBI might
be enlightening about FBI tactics, legal and illegal


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2. "RE: FBI / polygraph questions"
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Q. It seems like from what you're telling me that they were of the mind that you were, that Patsy Ramsey they thought was involved in the death of her daughter?

A. That certainly seemed to be my impression.

In the state that Thomas was in, everything seemed to point to Patsy as the killer - - it was his delusion. That's the only way to explain it.

I note his answer to this question was very subjective - - he sure was vague....

had the Ramseys answered questions like he did - - Oh, you can imagine what he would have said.


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