The reason I am asking is because I do. I know people that hate capitalists and demonstrate violence toward people who are better off than them. They would spit on people who they consider to be "fat cats" and if there was a guarantee not to be caught, they would surely kill them too.

These guys hang around in gangs. They want to be Arian and worship Hitler and the third reich. They hate Jews and cheered when the twin towers were struck and America brought down. They want to bring down the capitalist state. They worship people who are thrown in gaol for murder. As long as the victim deserved it in their opinion. And yes a blond beautiful daughter of a rich man would deserve what she got. Maybe it would hurt the rich man, even better.

These guys also wear black. Black pants (maybe leather), black shirts with antisocial messages, black armbands with metal spikes. And black steel capped boots. They often stick to the same brand and this becomes part of their identity. So Hi Tek would mean something to someone. I am not American and not familiar with this brand, thus not sure what the marketing image is over there. I would understand it to be something to do with mortal combat... maybe action?

I wouldn't say that these were good people. I don't agree with them at all. But I know them. And the idea that someone like that- a strong male with black steel capped boots as well as combat clothing such as a balaclava- could come and kill JonBenet Ramsey in the middle of the night is not such a strange idea at all.

I want to know. Does anyone here know people like that?

WHY the subculture of the area wasn't considered is beyond me. Particularly since Steve Thomas himself was quoted in an earlier article (prior to l2/26/96)that crime was increasing in the Hill area. A newspaper article right before JBR was murdered said police would be increased in the area after the first of the year.

Stun gun...hi-tec boots.....amateurish attempt at kidnapping---smacks of someone younger that may have had a drug problem, and into a counter-culture.

We covered the Rave scene of Boulder during the period of mid-ninties. A popular recording played at the rave clubs in 1996, although it wasn't availiable for purchase until 1997, was the song, "Spinback and Bungee Take Control". I couldn't find a copy at the time we were discussing it and so I have only the suspicion that it is about the rave culture taking charge (of the straight world?). Spinback was the name of a famous British spin dj/disk jockey of the rave scene. And yes, in an interview posted on the web he said the "H" word.."and Hence". Anyone moving in this world would have been familiar with the song, it's message and the dj. And I think they would have had an attitude about "regular", especially rich regular, folks.
Some old links:
http://www.freshwidow.com/blacktape.html
http://www.truemetal.org/altarsofmetal/reviews/malevo.htm
http://www.consoledomain.com/psx/previews/In_Cold_Blood.html
http://www.victoryrecords.com/incoldblood.html

Notice also that one of the groups takes it's name from a famous true crime book by T. Capote which some of us feel is part of what the killer based his crime on.

Some of us believe that the date of Dec. 25th. has particular significance.  Dec. 26 is the celebration of the winter solstice in Ireland, (St. Stephens's Day), derived from ancient Celtic tradition (Druid). This particular Christmas marked the 2000th. year following the Lord's birth (-4 B.C.to 1996) Based on this fact and other elements of the crime scene I would have to say the killer was familiar with Druidic ritual sacrifice, whether a practicing pagan or not, and took this 2000th.year opportunity to mock the Christian holiday, God and this Christian family by offering their daughter as a sacrifice to the god of the underworld. St. Stephen was the first Christian martyr.

An alternate, or perhaps additional, reasoning might lie in the fact that chapter 15 of MINDHUNTERS recounts the story of the fellow who killed his estranged wife on Dec. 26th., presumbably set off by "holiday stress", you know how that "holiday stress" turns otherwise normal people into murderers, and staged her body under his house to make it look like a sexual crime. That particular chapter has several other crimes that reveal what parents/spouses do to "stage" murders of their children/spouses. I particularly note the case where a mother fakes a kidnapping to hide the murder of her child. The crime reads to me like the killer used FBI profiling, this chapter in particular, to try to frame the Ramseys. The fake RN being placed by the phone where it would guarantee that the first word out of their mouth would be "kidnap" bringing the FBI in on the case and pointing exactly at their "classic case of parental staging"- but, I digress.

There is a goth vocal group/band known as "Black Tape for a Blue Girl" who had a song by that title prior to the murder. I think this is one of the type of songs that would have been played at some of the raves. Maybe the black tape is meant to refer to this song somehow.

There was a thread on Helgoth a year or so ago, which may be lost by now, where some of his tatoos were described. One in particular seemed to described a Celtic goddess known as "Caridwen", Mother of Taliesen, greatest and wisest of all the bards (writers/poetsmedia persons?), therefore she is patron of poets. Caridwen corresponds with Brigit. She is connected with wolves, and some believe that her cult dates to the Neolithic era. Originally a corn goddess. It would not surprise me if the killer had some tatoos like this reflecting a preoccupation with the occult.

Snapple has done a lot of research on the fellow named Burroughs, one of the hard drinking, drugging and buggering writers who brought in the "Beat Generation" in the late 40's/early 50's. Two of this group were from Denver and one of the outcomes of the movement was the establishment of Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado, for the study of the Beat style of writing and the pursuit of Buddhism. This was pretty much an anti-everything group. Burroughs style of writing was cut and paste, plagaristic, with media delivering a symbolic message, always against straight society. He was very anti-woman. In his "Naked Lunch" he described how one young girl from a high tech regular society neighborhood was strangled to death so that others could move onto the block-this was "progress" in a high tech society. He advocated violence, the domination of society thru sexual and physical intimidation, shocking behavior and images.

Perhaps someone from these backgrounds or influences is the "mastermind" behind the JB murder. Helgoth, IF he was involved, might have been the type recruited by a "mastermind", from the metal/goth/rave/occult scene to help carry out his plan. I think the plan had to be conceived by someone more literary, more artistic, but of an anarchist/anti-social bent.

However, I have always considered these leather and swastika bedecked gore-obsessed shriekers to be irrelevant to the investigation since I think the crime was performed by an intelligent, fairly normal type individual.