A. You have.

Q. Who was the police intern?

A. I don't know.

Q. Who was the officer, Chromiak?

A. As it says.

Q. Who were the detectives?

A. I don't know because this was prior to my involvement in the case, I believe.

Q. Did you ever see any lab forensic test forms filled out as early as December 30, 1996, that under
the form area for suspects had John Ramsey and Patsy Ramsey's name there and no one else's?

A. No, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Q. As early as December 30, 1996, that would not surprise you, would it, sir?

A. No, with this ambiguous label of suspect, no.

Q. With that ambiguous label of suspect it would seem to me there would be a lot of other people
that would be on there such as Fleet White as of December 30th, right?

A. Right what, Mr. Wood?

Q. You can't -- I mean, you're trying to tell me as I understand it, well, you know, it wouldn't surprise
me for John and Patsy Ramsey's name to appear on the form as early as December 30th as a suspect
because of the ambiguous use of the term suspect. Well, you're going to apply the ambiguous terms
equally to all, aren't you? Shouldn't we see Fleet White? Shouldn't we see John Fernie? Shouldn't we
see Mr. Barnhill? Shouldn't we see Bill McReynolds? Shouldn't we see all of those people as of
December 30th, sir, under that as you now call it ambiguous term suspect?

A. I did not see the report. In fact, if you see my reports, I think I refer to them as subjects.

Q. When did you move them from subjects to suspects?

A. I don't know that I in my reports listed them as suspects.

Q. How about in your mind's eye, when did you make the determination that they were suspects?

A. Well, everybody was a potential suspect from early on, Mr. Wood.

Q. Everybody?

A. Excuse my use of everybody. There were a number of people who could be potential suspects in
this case from very early on.

Q. Bill McReynolds was?

MR. DIAMOND: I'm sorry, could you -- could I have that reread?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Bill McReynolds was, right?

MR. DIAMOND: Thank you.

A. Was a suspect as early as December 30th, 1996?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Yeah.

A. Or shortly thereafter he became an early suspect.

Q. At what point in time did you say I think Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter?

A. I think the evidence led me to those conclusions and further strengthened my belief in the early
months of 1997.

Q. When in 1997, the early months, what does that mean? Tell me what that means with some
specificity, please, sir.

A. There was not a defining moment in which the bell rang and I noted the date and time. Early in
1997 it became more and more apparent to me that that's where the abundance of evidence was
leading.

Q. And you were heavily influenced in that determination by the conclusion of John Foster, weren't
you, sir?

A. Don Foster?

Q. Don Foster, yeah.

A. No, he did not come on board for I think almost another year.

Q. Right. So you had decided in your mind's eye that Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter many
months before Don Foster made the appearance as a consultant in the case, right?

A. Again, Mr. Wood, as I said, I felt there was an abundance of evidence pointing in that direction.
And that became -- and others viewed it the same way, incidentally. And, yes, in those early months of
'97, she looked pretty good for that.

Q. Yes, sir. Thank you. But that doesn't answer my question. You had decided in your mind's eye
that Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter many months before Don Foster made his appearance as a
consultant in the case, true?

A. I felt that she was the best suspect, yes, many months prior to Don's... Foster's involvement.

Q. Plaintiff's Exhibit Number 2 is Mr. Foster's letter to my client, Patsy Ramsey. Have you seen
that letter before?

A. I haven't looked at it yet.

(continued on Foster thread)

MR. DIAMOND: Are you representing that is the case?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) I think Mr. Thomas knows that is absolutely the case, don't you?

A. Which question?

Q. That the one that I -- well, the Boulder Police Department didn't ask John and Patsy Ramsey for
the articles of clothing they had worn on the 25th of December, 1996 until almost a year later, true?

A. For a long time, that was a mistake, yes.

Q. Didn't that strike you as odd?

A. That the police did that?

Q. You and the police, you were part of the case?

A. Yes.

Q. Why did you do it?

A. Why did I do what?

Q. Why didn't you ask the Ramseys to give you the articles of clothing they wore?

A. In hindsight, that was important.

Q. You had already concluded that Patsy Ramsey committed the crime before you even asked for
the clothes that she had worn, true?

A. Those should have been collected the first day and they weren't.

Q. You had already concluded that Patsy Ramsey had committed the crime before you even asked
the Ramseys for the clothes they had worn that night, true?

A. It was my belief that that evidence that I'm talking about led to Patsy Ramsey. So yes, she was
the best suspect before we wound up collecting their clothes.

Q. I'm not asking you about who is the best. I'm talking about you, Steve Thomas, a lead detective
had concluded that Patsy Ramsey had killed her daughter, JonBenet, months before you or the Boulder
Police Department even asked for the clothes that she and her husband were wearing that night; is that
true?

MR. DIAMOND: Asked and answered.You can answer.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Can I get an answer and then we can move on. Am I correct, sir?

A. That's my belief that she was involved.

Q. And the timing is correct, right?

A. Prior to the retrieval of the clothing, yes.

Q. All right. Thank you. It seems like it was a pretty simple question.

MR. DIAMOND: You wanted to put your words in his mouth and he didn't want to swallow them,
which is his right.

MR. WOOD: Well, the truth then one can surmise why one has difficulty swallowing the truth.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Sir, let me ask you --

MR. DIAMOND: That's a hot-headed remark.

MR. WOOD: What?

MR. DIAMOND: That's a hot-headed remark.

MR. WOOD: Well, I don't think it's any more hot headed than your comment made about swallowing
the truth and making -- and taking my words?

MR. DIAMOND: Try swallowing the truth.

MR. WOOD: Your comment, sir, you're the one that got into the swallowing. So, you know, if you
stay away from there, I don't need to go there.

MR. DIAMOND: May I have that read back, please.

MR. WOOD: I can read it.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) You know you have, I think -- maybe I shouldn't make that assumption. Are
you aware that there has been accusations against you that you had early on made up your mind before
the investigation was complete and that you went out and shopped experts to try to find somebody on
handwriting, somebody on sexual, chronic sexual abuse, to try to support the conclusion that you had
already drawn? Are you aware of accusations made against you in that light?

A. I know that those accusations were made against the police team and they flew back and forth
with the DA's team.

Q. From the timing standpoint, it appears that one could certainly make that as a plausible argument
because you're out here, a lead detective, within the first few months having decided that Patsy is the
killer. A lot of the experts have not been hired at that point, true?

A. Again, those are your words. I think I have characterized it as trying to follow what I have called
an abundance of evidence leading in a particular direction.

Q. But at some point you concluded, and the record will speak very clearly about what you said, you
say you followed that evidence. But early in 1997, within the first few months, you had drawn your
conclusion, right?

A. That it appeared based on the evidence that she was not only a good suspect, but appeared to be
the offender.

Q. And there were a number of experts that at that point had not even been hired to review
evidence; isn't that true?

A. Yes.

Honest, all you need to understand is to go to BORGville and drink some of their water - - seems to be something in the water supply. I think they called it "vemon".

He created and fed the monster with lies designed to preserve his following.

I think Thomas' deposition has been a great way to look inside the investigation. Maybe I should next make threads using Beckner's deposition - you think? See how they compare....

"Then Commander Beckner ordered us to be "more objective" in our reports and not skew them to theories that a Ramsey was involved in the death of JonBenet."