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"ZACHARY MICHAEL-COLE BERNHARDT"
 
   ZACHARY MICHAEL-COLE BERNHARDT

ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT : Clearwater Police Department (Florida) -
1-727-562-4422

Case Type :Endangered Missing
DOB :dec-18-1991 Age :8 years
Height : 4' 6" - 137 cm
Weight : 60 lbs - 27 kg
Eyes :Blue Hair : Blonde

Circumstances : Zachary was last known to be sleeping in his bed
on the night of September 10, 2000. At approximately 4 a.m. on
September 11, 2000, he was discovered missing and is missing
under suspicious circumstances. He goes by the nickname Zach.

He has a scar under his chin, a scar between his eyes on the
bridge of his nose and on the right side of his top lip.

Date Missing :September-11-2000
City of Report :CLEARWATER, FLORIDA USA
Case Number :894757

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearwater Police Department (Florida) - 1-727-562-4422

Click SEARCH at link below NCMEC Zachary is not in the database,
he is on the first page photo listed with all other children who
have been missing since Aug 18, 2000. He may be traveling. YOU
CAN HELP ! http://www.missingkids.com


1 . "Alert ! Quick Flash "
Posted by LadyBug on Sep-23-00 at 03:36 PM (EST)
AMW Tonight 9-23-00
Set your VCR or visit the site:
http://www.amw.com

This alert sent by Clem Clay, busy Webmaster for missing 'Grace and Little Gracie Reapp'
UPDATED: Desperate
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/5239/Grace.html




2 . "Zach Bernhardt Astrology"
Posted by Mikie on Sep-24-00 at 01:44 PM (EST)

Zachary Michael Cole Bernhardt
b. Dec 18, 1991
NATAL POSITIONS

Sun 26:16 Sag; Moon 19:00 Tau; Merc 07:55 Sag; Ven 14:32 Sco; Mars 14:05 Sag; Jup 14:23 Vir;
Sat 04:26 Aq; Ur 12:54 Cap; Nep 15:43 Cap; Pl 21:39 Sco

Sunsign Sagittarius, (knowledge seeker), Moon in Taurus, (calm, steady, unchanging).

NATAL ASPECTS

Mars square Jupiter 00:18 (50)
Definition from Braha "How to be a Great Astrologer"

If Mars is square Jupiter, the person is an extremist. He lacks balance and moderation, does not know
when to quit, and is often foolishly fearless. There may be poor judgement and an overly-confident
nature. Many individuals with this aspect are impetuous, biased, and opinionated. He may annoy
others with conceit and exaggerated importance. He may give new meaning to the concept of
arrogance. He excels in sports and loves to compete. He is a natural fighter and wins more often than
not. There is strong sex drive and plenty of energy to get his desires fulfilled.

The person has a tendency to overextend himself. He may vacillate between extreme vitality and
laziness. He may be overly indulgent in pleasures, and should be careful not to consume too many
sweets or oils. As always with Jupiter afflictions, the liver is at risk. Rhough the person lacks common
sense and temperance, success is favored. He takes risks easily and is impervious to the opinions of
others. He is unyielding in his convictions. He is energetic and spirited. He is rarely, if ever, to be
dissuaded from pursuing his goals.

The person may have a tendency to irritate or antagonize others. He enjoys winning, and bragging
about his conquests. There may be difficulties with gurus or religious teachers. The person is intense
in his beliefs, and may be known as a religious or philosophical fanatic. His energy is
outward-directed, and there is a need for introspection and self-reflection. The person must take
care not to produce sloppy or careless work. He may lack sensitivity, and lose friends on account of
selfishness. The person is restless, and lives an active, physical life. He may be prejudiced and have
troubles with authority. Traditional astrological texts declare that the person must avoid gambling and
taking dangerous risks. He should work on modifying his excessiveness and extreme behavior, and
consider the possibility of living a deeper, more rewarding existence based upon moderation,
sensitivity, trust, and generosity. Martial arts master Bruce Lee had the Mars opposite Jupiter aspect
within 3 degrees.

Jupiter trine Neptune (01:20) (49)
(Braha)

"...the person is saintly...does no harm to others and his greatest concern is to help...sympathetic
and compassionate...has the best heart...he is assured a life of happiness and profundity for the rest
of his days...he is sensitive, kind, sincere, and genuine...a great human being.

...there is a strong devotional nature...has unwavering faith in the devine...spiritual, reverent,
inclined towards religious enthusiasm and ecstacy...may live a monastic life...is mystical, intuitive...is
inspired and always shares his religious and philosophical knowledge...loves to pray and may
occasionally rise to lofty heights of bliss...

"...is a visionary...dreamer...there is a need for discipline, responsibility, and practicality if the person
is to make the most of the harmonious Jupiter Neptune aspect. He looks for the best in people and
often misses the flaws and base motives of others. Because his intentions are so pure he has
difficulty understanding corruption, greed, and selfishness. He is bewildered by politics and the "way
of the world". ...is contemplative, receptive, and introspective... creative and he has a wonderful
imagination...likes to consider the possibility of a utopian society where everybody wins.

"...is pleasant and easygoing...artistic...may choose a career in music, drama, photography, or any
endeavor where he capitalizes on his inspiration and aesthetic sensibilities...is romantic and
spirited...highly intuitive and may have accurate insights and hunches...love magic and large bodies
of water...is generous and willing to care for others...will give up anything for his loved ones...There
is an acute sense of right and wrong..may be lazy or too passive...may be overly
sentimental...succeeds in hospital work or any other social service..often receives conspicuously
lucky benefits and is well-loved for his remarkable character. Marlon Brando had the Jupiter trine
Neptune aspect within two and one half degrees.

Venus sextile Jupiter 00:09 (40)
(Braha)

Graceful, charmed, poised, optimistic, has good taste, well-liked, compassionate, sensitive, kind,
sympathetic, high morals, good ethics, loyal, devoted, trustworthy, will never hurt his lover's feelings,
has unwavering faith in God, always expects the best to occur, is happy, enthusiastic, thrilled with
life, avoids all circumstances of potentially or melancholy vibrations.

Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn 02:51(40)
(Braha)

"...will experience intense confusion regarding his independence, self-reliance, and individuality...may
feel no inner confidence regarding his own creativity, originality, and inventiveness...may have the
greatest idealism, romanticism, and visionary nature about the possibilities of human existence...may
grasp, from birth, the concept of maya (illusion) and the futility of materialism...will percieve the
potential for utopian life and help make it a reality...are likely to be extreme escapist tendencies and
therefore the person should avoid drugs and alcohol altogether. Extrasensory perception will be acute
and abundant. Karl Marx, Walt Whitman, Clara Barton (originator of the Red Cross) and Mary Baker
Eddy (founder of Christian Science) were born during the last Uranus Neptune conjunction, which
occurs every 170 years.

PLANET POSITIONS AT TIME MISSING

Sun 18:53 Vir; Moon 20:34 Aq; Merc 05:30 Lib; Ven 13:42 Lib; Mars 26:24 Leo; Jup 10:41 Gem; Sat
00:59 Gem; Ur 17:41 Aq; Nep 04:06 Aq; Pl 10:16 Sag

TRANSITS AT TIME MISSING
Sept 11, 2000 4am


Transiting Neptune conjuncts Natal Saturn(100)
(from Braha's "How to Predict Your Future")

When transiting Neptune conjuncts natal Saturn, the person experiences a stressful period during
which old perceptions of reality erode and worn-out structures of his life crumble. The personıs
business may disintegrate, his career may end, and certain basic externals of his life may suddenly
collapse. The person finds that he can no longer rely on the foundations upon which he has based his
existence. Even more disconcerting, his convictions, beliefs, and dverything important to him are
proved inconsequential by the uncontrollable circumstances that are destroying his past attainments
and accomplishments. It is impossible to predict exactly which areas of the personıs life will be most
affected. But whatever constitutes the basis of her reality now dissolves in order to help the person
grow.

The puropose of this transit, on the mundane level, is to force the person to move on to new realms
of life because his old reality has outlived its usefulness. An individual who is concerned with his
personal growth confronts the ever-changing nature of existence during this transit and realizes that
realities are different in different states of consciousness. When the person analyzes the reason
behind the profound changes of his external circumstances, he begins to realize that his inner being
has slowly been transformed. As he considers the matter carefully and honestly, he realizes that his
ambitions are no longer what they were. His motivations coming from within - from the soul, psyche,
or spirit - have changed, and, consequently, important features of his life have broken down.

For many, the approximately two-year period when Neptune repeatedlyy conjuncts the natal Saturn
for two to four months at a time is difficult. The person feels insecure, vulnerable, and unprotected.
He is confused, disoriented, and anxious. Many of his resources are gone, he has little control, and he
has lost his authority over others. Worse than this, he has no access to his usual wisdom. He feels
his current problems are caused by his past experience. Had he not undertaken the course of action
chosen long ago, he feels, he would not be in his current precarious situation. The person should take
particularly good care of himself. He is under great stress, whether he realizes it or not, and should
eat well and get plenty of rest. His best strategy is to let go of attachments to the form and
structure of his life and try to flow with nature. He should follow his heart, his instincts, and his
intuitions, and above all, avoid making decisions based upon what is most reasonable, most
conservative, and appears like the right thing to do. The personıs task is to act in accordance with
his feelings and his nature, whatever that happens to be. He may have to endure a temporary but
necessary period of uncertainty and adjustment before moving foreward. Or he may have to embark
on a path that, though relevant now, seems frivolant from his previous perspective. The important
thing is for the person to be true to himself and pursue the most honest, heartfelt desires that he
can.

The person has troubles in the areas of life ruled by Saturnıs natal postition. (Time of birth not
available). He is forced to acknowledge his flaws, and he may suffer a great loss of reputation and
prestige. Activities begun during this transit flounder, intensifying the personıs discouragement and
depression. Business activities are not at all favored. The person has problems with real estate and
building projects. He gets no help from old, wise persons or those in authority. He should surround
himself with loving, supporting individuals throughout this entire period and avoid negative or
pessimistic people who add to his fears and gloom. As for his health, the teeth and bones are
vulnerable, and the person should therefore take calcium in a healthy form. Individuals with arthritis
may experience more discomfort than usual. The person is susceptible to strange illnesses that may
be difficult to properly diagnose.


Mars trine natal Sun (70)
(Lasts only a few days.) from Hand, "Planets in Transit".

During this transit your energies are high, and you feel vigorous and willing to work. At the same time,
your self-confidence is unusually strong. You feel no need to struggle against others, because you
know y our normal energies will carry you through any situation. And since you are able to work from
such a calm position, your work is more effective and more competent than usual.

This period is favorable for initiating all kinds of activity, especially physical activity, but it is much
more likely that you will work on projects that you have started earlier.

You do not feel violently competitive, but if someone offers a challenge, you won't back down.
Therefore this is a good time for all types of athletics. You will enjoy the contest, but you will not
feel driven to win at all costs. The game will seem satisfactory by itself. And you will carry this
viewpoint over into all the activities you become involved in at this time.

This is a favorable transit for situations that require decisive action. Your mind is operating with great
energy while maintaining equilibrium. Consequently you are very clear about your intentions, and you
know what course to follow at every turn.

No matter what you do under this influence, others will see you as someone with a definite
personality. Your vigor and enthusiasm will make a favorable impression, so you will be in a good
position to deal with bosses or other persons in power. In general this is a favorable time for dealing
with men, regardless of your own sex.

If you are involved in a love relationship, this is a favorable transit for that. The present balance
between our needs and your loved one's needs for self-gratification enables both of you to give and
gain from each other.

TransitingSun trine natal Moon (70)
(Lasts only one day.) From Hand, "Planets in Transit".

"...a time of inner peace and balance...serenity...live through your feelings as well as your
intellect...able to make the compromises necessary to getting along with others...Friendships and
love relationships that start under this transit will have important consequences for your future life
and may have a strong effect on your attitudes toward life in general."

SUMMARY

The aspects shows that Zach is a person with vitality and a natural fighter, that is well-liked, a
knowledge-seeker who is religiously faithful and optimistic and enthusiastic about his life, who would
not do anything to hurt those he loves, yet may be "foolishly fearless" and, "...his intentions are so
pure he has difficulty understanding corruption, greed, and selfishness."

This implys that he was abducted by a stranger who did it for greed and selfishness. His character
may have made his abduction easier since he would not see the abductor's ill intentions and his
vitality would give him overconfidence.

The transits show that for Zach "...certain basic externals of his life may suddenly collapse. .. (he)
feels insecure, vulnerable, and unprotected...he has no access to his usual wisdom...if someone
offers(him) a challenge, (he) won't back down..."

Perhaps this means he was given some sort of lure such as a challenge, to get him out of the house.




3 . "Ladybug"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Sep-26-00 at 07:06 PM (EST)
Do you hear anything about this case? Is there still searching going on by authorities?

This case really tugs at my heart...maybe because I used to live in that area, and because I have
two sons...




4 . "Investigative Search"
Posted by LadyBug on Sep-27-00 at 02:37 PM (EST)
LovelyPigeon, I have 'friends' in Zachary's area who are keeping me updated and IF I could keep up
with all the missing kids I would post anything new . Apparently, for a reason we do not know AMW
did not run the flash feature of Zach on Saturday 9-23. Best to check AMW schedules again. Search
http://www.amw.com

YES the search goes on, but press releases are what I would be more interested in than a news
reporters opinion, which in most missing children cases, is the cause of rumors to flow.

ALSO: I have a direct image above of Zachary from the NCMEC. If there should be is a red X, that
would indicate that Zac has been removed from their files. Sometimes it takes a few days for the red
X to appear. NCMEC is far behind, they need our help.

It just happened that Zachary (Clearwater, FLA) *was only ONE of the 2,000 children that goes
missing each day. *(this information recently released by the FBI).

Place flyers in car windows, contact a trucking firm, ask them to take a pile of flyers along to truck
stops. Zachary could be most anywhere, the state at this time wouldn't matter. HE's been away too
long already, but I never give up hope.




5 . "Shocking Details Update_Hold Your Seat "
Posted by LadyBug on Sep-28-00 at 06:26 AM (EST)
This a lengthy update: Link at bottom
Police: Boy's mother knows more

Police haven't labeled her a suspect, but they think she knows more about the disappearance of her
son than she has told them.
By CHRISTINA HEADRICK

İ St. Petersburg Times, published September 28, 2000

http://www.sptimes.com/News/092800/TampaBay/Police__Boy_s_mother_.shtml




6 . "Published articles on Zach"
Posted by Satin on Oct-03-00 at 12:21 PM (EST)
You can find all the stories published on Zach's disappearance by the St. Pete Times at
http://www.sptimes.com/News/webspecials/zacharybernhardt/

I just found out that Ladybug has this special forum just for missing children, so we are moving the
discussions on him over from Coffee.

There is still no news, as in zero/zilch, since the last newspaper article that delved into Zach's
mother's past.




7 . "A website on Zach"
Posted by Satin on Oct-03-00 at 10:27 PM (EST)
A neighbor of Zach's has posted a website about his disappearance at
http://www.homestead.com/resume67/




8 . "Thanks Satin "
Posted by LadyBug on Oct-04-00 at 00:32 AM (EST)
Great idea setting up the web page. I tried to click on e-mail to send 'LadyBug's Missing Children' link
to webmaster of Zachary. My e-mail, Microsoft Outlook98, is not allowing me to send through web
pages, which has been an ongoing problem for me.

Can you send the link from this thread of Zachary from here, or send the web page e-mail address to
me? Important that they know that Zachary has our support and we are trying to help, reaching out
and helping our viewers become familiar with Zachary and the circumstances.

Zachary could be most anywhere. Darn I wish there was a break and he would be found safe
again...it's been too many days, where is the black puppy ? The neighbors might know...




9 . "Website Email Address"
Posted by Mikie on Oct-04-00 at 02:53 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON Oct-05-00 AT 10:43 AM (EST)

See website.




10 . "To Mikie "
Posted by LadyBug on Oct-04-00 at 05:20 PM (EST)
Muchas gratias...where have you been hiding? Busy here and there? I've sent the forum and MSN
links to ekgman1, however noted pro username may not have time. I would like to find out more
about the black puppy, neighbors may have information. Thanks again for your help




11 . "America's Most Wanted"
Posted by Satin on Oct-07-00 at 10:34 AM (EST)
Ekgman on the St. Pete Times forum reports this:

"I called Gina at America's Most Wanted. Zach's story was scheduled to be run on Sept. 23. It was
cancelled because "Zach's mother refused to give permission for the piece to be run"."

Apparently it was the police who contacted AMW, but naturally the parents need to give permission
for it to be aired.

Still no updates on Zach's whereabouts, I'm afraid. No news stories, nothing. Its as if everyone lost
interest in an investigation since Leah's actions came under suspicion! Let's not forget that those
actions don't even indicate she was directly involved in Zach's disappearance, so the SEARCH must
continue!


25 . "The mother"
Posted by Ashley on Oct-15-00 at 01:59 AM (EST)
could have lied and now she's to afraid to tell the truth. Maybe she doesn't want the program to air
because she fears they will mostly focus on her...and she doesn't want to be the next Susan
Smith,especially if she's innocent of his disappearence.

I know this might anger some of you, but I feel the need to say it anyway. The neighbor with the
website should be looked at very closely.

The mother might have been gone ALL night or possibly longer and left the poor child to fend for
himself... some close by sicko that was watching could have known this and then acted.

Just some thoughts... he is gone under very suspicious circumstances. There's got to be a logical
explanation for it.

Of course, there's nothing logical about a kidnapping, but you know what I mean. The kidnapper is
close,very close. Not some weirdo off the highway who just happen to strike it lucky.




26 . "Where is this child????"
Posted by Sweebie on Oct-17-00 at 12:47 PM (EST)
I keep checking this thread for news. He has been missing since SEPTEMBER 11.

Has there been ANY news????




27 . "Me too Sweebie"
Posted by mousey on Oct-17-00 at 02:21 PM (EST)
I've been checking the St. Petersubrg Times site too. If you click on the upper left icon "Find your
local news section" you can choose Clearwater, but there has been no mention of this case there
either. It's frustrating.

http://www.sptimes.com/



28 . "News Articles Links "
Posted by LadyBug on Oct-17-00 at 03:23 PM (EST)
Missing more than a month !
Just as EKGman1 has told us, there is no news and very little co-operation. And he says the fliers
and ribbons are being removed. Visit the forum while at St. Petes and read for yourself the attitude
of the posters while EKG screams out for help, they in turn are blasting Zach's Mother and seems
rumors are what posters enjoy and like to chat about which IMO is worse than following the TABS.

Special 'thanks' to Satin who posted this link which will take us directly to news of Zachary.
Note the last article date...few and far between.

You can find all the stories published on Zach's disappearance by the St. Pete Times at
http://www.sptimes.com/News/webspecials/zacharybernhardt/




29 . "I'm surprised that Ekg man"
Posted by mousey on Oct-19-00 at 01:12 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON Oct-19-00 AT 01:37 PM (EST)

doesn't realize that many people may not need to request flyers from him. All they need is a color
printer to download the picture from his site and print out as many as they wish. I sympathize with
his frustration, but the way he expresses himself on that forum does very little that is positive.

If he rants and raves like that when he tries to communicate with law enforcement he may find
himself being investigated. We all know that criminals will sometimes attempt to involve themselves in
the investigation. I'm not pointing a finger at him, just pointing out that law enforcement may see his
behavior in a very different way than he himself perceives it.





30 . "Frustrated Yes Indeed !"
Posted by LadyBug on Oct-19-00 at 03:06 PM (EST)
Mousey, EKGman has been active in search for Zachary since he went missing. I know of his
frustration and we have talked about it.

Sometimes efforts go to silent ears and the general public would rather condemn parent(s) and
spread gossip than to search for the child. As quick as the information was reported about the
Mother Leah, the ribbons and fliers started to come down. Poor Zachary is the loser.

For instance, where is Zachary's Father and where is Zachary's little black puppy he was seen with
on the day before he went missing. No one is addressing these issues...they would rather gossip
about Leah. Makes one want to scream, and EKGman is doing just that, IMO. However, it's best to
take a break and this may be what EKGman needs to do.

There is much more information regarding security at Sierra Trace, the immediate surrounding area
and the investigation which has been expressed to me by EKGman that I have his permission to post,
however for the safety of Zachary, I have chosen not to do so, because I don't know who is lurking
here.

Take a break EKG, you need it now !



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   31 . "What's Going On?"
Posted by Lilac on Oct-31-00 at 01:01 AM (EST)
I have this page bookmarked because I honestly care about this boy's safety. Why are people
removing flyers, etc? What's going on? What's the word on the puppy? Is he still with the mother or
did he disappear with the boy? Thx.




32 . "Leads Are Dry 38 Days Gone In The Night ..."
Posted by LadyBug on Oct-31-00 at 11:43 PM (EST)
My feelings are mutual, Lilac. For Zachary and every missing child... same feelings. Notice
the yellow ribbons and photos have been removed. 38 days and just as EKG told us they were
removed. Very little compassion shown by our society in general...Zachary is forgotten by
the majority and shame on them, they could be helping...

Zachary's case is not unique, there are 1,000's quite similar, all states included, but no one
has chosen to post them and let them be seen. They too are forgotten, hidden away in a files,
databases and archives...what a shame!
*********
Leads keep running dry
in search for boy, 8

Police are continuing traditional investigative work to find Zachary Bernhardt, who was reported
missing 38 days ago.
By LEON M. TUCKER

İ St. Petersburg Times, published October 19, 2000


CLEARWATER -- The yellow ribbons that once hung from an oak tree at the Savannah Trace
apartment complex, urging searchers not to give up hope, are gone.

Also gone is the white plastic bag with "Bring Zack Home" scrawled on it in black ink and the
"MISSING" posters bearing the 8-year-old's picture.

Thirty-eight days have passed since Leah Hackett told Clearwater police investigators that she
returned to apartment No. 634 after a 15-minute walk at 4 a.m. and found that her son, Zachary
Bernhardt, had disappeared without a trace.

Police launched a massive search for the boy that covered hundreds of acres of land and water.
Although the search has turned up little in the way of clues, it continues on a smaller scale with what
Clearwater police spokesman Wayne Shelor called "traditional police work."

"Running down leads, analyzing information and comparing notes," he said. "It's not particularly sexy,
but historically it has proven effective."

Shelor said the dozens of officers and investigators initially assigned to the search have been
returned to their regular duties because the hundreds of tips on where to look have dried up.

At the height of the search, Shelor said, about 50 investigators from the Clearwater Police
Department were working around the clock looking for clues that would help find the boy, who
disappeared Sept. 11.

Police have found no evidence that suggests the third-grader at Eisenhower Elementary School ran
away. None of his belongings are missing.

"There were no significant leads as far as leading to closure of this case," Shelor said. "We had over
500 calls into our tip line early on, which has dwindled to a trickle at best."

The Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney's Office, Manatee County Sheriff's Office, Tampa Police
Department, Clearwater Fire Department, Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the FBI also
helped cover hundreds of acres of woods, knocking on doors and searching the waterways looking for
the child.

Shelor said detectives have no evidence that a crime was committed, and they do not view Hackett
as a suspect. However, police said last month that they think she knows more than what she had
said about what happened to Zachary.

"It's not beyond comprehension," Shelor said of the child's disappearance. "But it is certainly
confounding to deal with a situation of having an 8-year-old child disappear with no indication of
where he is or what happened to him."

Hackett, who faced eviction for not paying two months' back rent, moved from her apartment at
2690 Drew St. On Wednesday, through the unit's window shades, a stained carpet, a half-empty
20-ounce bottle of Pepsi and a couple of end tables were visible.

Shelor said investigators know where Hackett lives now but would not release that information.

Zachary has blond hair and blue eyes. He is 4 feet 6, weighs 60 pounds and was wearing a T-shirt
and boxer shorts at the time he was reported missing.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Clearwater Police Department at 562-4242.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/101900/NorthPinellas/Leads_keep_running_dr.shtml




33 . "This is heartbreaking..."
Posted by Ashley on Nov-01-00 at 00:24 AM (EST)
Sitting here tonite after trick-or treating with my kids and all the happy kids running from house to
house... I met a kid named Josh...he made me smile and I thought of another little boy named Josh
who should also be happy tonite filling his bag with treats.

Instead, NO ONE knows if he's alive or dead. The last time he was seen he was only in a t-shirt and
boxer shorts. It's cold out now... I hope wherever he is he's warm!

God bless you Josh...I'm praying for you to come home safely.



34 . "I read yesterday"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Nov-01-00 at 03:00 PM (EST)
at the St. Pete forum on the Zachary thread there. The thread can't stay on track there anymore
because a couple of religious nutz have invaded it.

One of many things I don't understand about this case is the suggestion that no *crime* has been
committed. How can a child disappear from the only legal custody he has and no crime have occured
in the disappearance??




35 . "Yes, LP"
Posted by mousey on Nov-01-00 at 04:34 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-00 AT 04:35 PM (EST)


He's gone. They say they are not sure that any crime has been committed. They say that the
mother, Leah, is not a suspect. They say they don't think he ran away.

I mean, what IS their theory? Alian abduction???

I think they are playing the waiting game with the mother, waiting for her to crack. Don't mean to be
accusatory, it's just that this thing reminds me of a novel I read in the recent past entitled
"Freedomland" (don't know why they titled it that). It's about a mother who reports her child missing
and the detective that finally unravels the mess.

Of course, being a character in a novel, he was able to accomplish this in one very long day and
night. (I highly recommend it BTW) Somehow, this case gives me the same ominous feeling that this
book had about it...

BTW, who is this Josh that Ashley (above) is referring to?



36 . "Following all leads..."
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-01-00 at 08:17 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-00 AT 08:36 PM (EST)

Ashley, who is Josh? Would you mind posting a thread? If you are referring to the two year old UTAH,
(Gage ?) he has been found, now on the news dead-cold hypothermia (sp?)in the snow. Please
post..it would be helpful if everyone posted at least one missing child, this web site is being viewed, I
guarantee it and we can possibly make a difference by helping the missing kids by posting their
information and photos and phone numbers. Someone may recognize a child!

LP You do remember the female mayor Boulder making a statement in Dec 96 there was no killer out
there? I will not attempt to quote exact but she certainly lied and we all know it!

Mousey Zachary could have gone with a 'friend', or someone he thought was a 'friend'. No aliens
involved. I haven't visited St. Pete's forum for several days because some would rather rumor and
nasty remarks than to help Zachary.



37 . "Yes Ladybug, I've considered"
Posted by mousey on Nov-02-00 at 08:35 AM (EST)
that possibility. If he woke to find Leah gone and became frightened at being alone, yes, he may
have phoned a friend and been taken away--I realize that. But if that is the case, if in Leah's mind he
is truly missing, why wouldn't she give approval for his picture & story to be run on America's Most
Wanted??? I suppose she may be embarrassed for the whole TV viewing audience to hear that she
left her 8-year old alone in an unlocked apartment at 4 am, even for the claimed 15 minutes, but how
selfish is that? She requested that people keep looking, but she and her family members did not
appear to being doing so (at least this was never mentioned in any of the news stories I read).

Actually that scenario is the one I'm hoping for--that Zach was taken by someone who was
concerned for him and is now afraid to speak out for fear of prosecution. I don't usually point fingers,
but something is not right here. I agree with the police--there's something she's not telling.




38 . "I still don't get it"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Nov-02-00 at 10:03 AM (EST)
Going off with a *friend* wouldn't be breaking a law (I guess) on Zachary's part, but it would be on
the adult's part. Interfering with parental rights, kidnapping, etc come to mind. Children not enrolled
in school is a crime. Registering a child with false information is a crime.

Unless the police really think Zachary wandered off alone and met with an accident that left him dead
but unfound...HOW can there be no crime here? I guess if police believe him dead because of his own
immature choices, they won't be interested in continuing to attempt finding him. Clearwater is a BIG,
busy place, and full of doughnut shops.




39 . "Maybe the police are"
Posted by mousey on Nov-02-00 at 12:33 PM (EST)
hoping, as I do, that he is with a friend that's trying to help him and is now afraid to come forward.
As you said LP there are multiple charges this person might face. Perhaps by putting out the word
that they "don't think any crime has been committed" the police hope to get this person to come
forward.

Maybe Leah thinks this too--at least it would give some logic to her refusal to approve the AMW
appearance.

Earlier, when it had just happened, I had given some thought to the possibility that Zach had actually
gone to a friend his own age and was hiding out there unbeknowst to the parent(s). If the parent(s)
worked he might have been able to pull it off for a few days--but it's been so long now.....




40 . "I hope you are right, mousey"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Nov-02-00 at 03:22 PM (EST)
because I desperately hope that Zach is alive and ok somewhere.

Don't you think it would be more effective for the cops to spell out that anyone who has attempted
to help Zachary is not committing crime, and they should contact police for help? I do!

As it is, it says to me(and maybe that's why the general shrug of shoulders by those in the
Clearwater area)that the police don't see this as such a big deal...no crime=no skin off their
nose=why bother?




41 . "Remembering Boulder JBR And All Children ..."
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-02-00 at 05:15 PM (EST)
1) " Hold your babies close..." and then ...
2)" There is no killer out there...", that last statement is/was a lie. We know for a fact there was/is
killers 'out there' and they are everywhere, Florida included.

Heather Thomas, B.C. and Sarah Payne, Surrey England, two ongoing investigations at this time. Both
little girls met up with the snake-monster-sickpuppy Where is the monster?

I feel positive the police are continueing their investigation in the background searching for Zachary,
the fact that his Mother's ( Leah )life seemed to be the major story at the time, the authorities took
note and stopped releasing any further press releases which, IMHO was the right thing to do. There
was no reason to drag Leah down further and remember we don't know what was included in the text
of the AMW TV airing. She may have sought legal advise and had been advised to say 'no'. She had
custody and those same rights as other parents.

The little black puppy and Zachary's personal property left behind is baffling, this is why IMO he left
willingly with a 'friend'. Remember Asha Degree,little girl NC ? ( in this forum )left her bed early a.m
February 14th, seen on the hwy in the dark by truckers and never to be seen again ???

When kids, calmly or upset walk out those first couple of hours are crucial. It's all so different and a
dark huge world of horror might be next.

Who's helping Asha ? Who's helping Zachary?




42 . "I meant Zach, sorry ladybug."
Posted by Ashley on Nov-03-00 at 01:42 AM (EST)
I was looking at his picture and thinking how much he looked like a Josh that i know... have to had
that on my mind while typing. There are so many Zachs and Josh's.

I have a good feeling about Zach after reading some of your posts. maybe someone does have him
and is just afraid to come forward.

It seems to me if Leah was involved she would have cracked by now.

Let's just pray for the best and that he comes home soon.



43 . "New Idea"
Posted by Lilac on Nov-05-00 at 09:11 PM (EST)
In reading your posts above, you all gave me a new idea. I couldn't figure out why they were
removing posters, etc. Well, how about this.

What if she's a crappy mother, the cops kinda sorta have an idea of where he is (like a good home)
and they're looking the other way so Zach can have a better life than a semi-hooker mom who
parties rather than stay home to love her child. Far fetched? Ya, but I've heard of stranger things.

LP, I especially love your donut shop humor.

Thanks for keeping up with all of this, LadyBug!




44 . "Idea ... However..."
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-05-00 at 10:56 PM (EST)
FBI isn't going to allow such goings on. The PD stopped the press releases because the story
smashed Zachary's Mother ( Leah ), and they wanted no part of that. Finding Zachary was more
important than the gossip that story promoted.

Lilac it would be nice IF your idea was a workable 'fact', there's too much at stake and Zachary has
been gone far too long, it's scary.



45 . "LadyBug"
Posted by Lilac on Nov-08-00 at 01:17 AM (EST)
I hate to ask, but have they taken cadaver dogs out on searches of the woods nearby?

I can't believe that his mother would or could kill him. Seems like, besides being crazy, that it would
be physically unlikely. He looks like a strong boy.

No one has EVER said whether or not the dog is still there. If the dog is gone, maybe Zach just ran
away.

Satin? Why don't you ask the managers office? Really, how many apts allow dogs, anyway?




46 . "Good Point Lilac "
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-08-00 at 07:14 AM (EST)
I have no recollection that K-9 units were used. I would have thought the units would have been
available in Clearwater,FLA and usually brought in. I will try to find the answer. They weren't used in
Boulder, CO. Christmas '96, or JonBenet would have been found immediately. We all know how
important K-9 units are.

No, I don't know about the 'little black puppy' and Leah has moved. They may have allowed animals
at Savanna Apts with a deposit, dunno. I'm hoping Satin wont go near that apartment building. It has
been suggested that danger lurks close by, which may or may not have any connection to Zachary's
disappearance, but he had to have been seen before or after leaveing and no one is talking. That's
what's so darn scary...




47 . "golfclub??"
Posted by birgitta on Nov-08-00 at 08:40 AM (EST)
do you know ladybug if there is a golfclub near where zach used to live?i´we asked spirit about this
case but the only thing i get is a golfclub,and someone´s golfing,do you know if he played golf or had
anything to do with golf?




48 . "yes, dogs were used"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Nov-08-00 at 11:01 AM (EST)
The links at St. Pete Times aren't working for me today, or I'd cut and paste, but dogs were used to
search for Zachary. One sniffed a trail straight to a portion of wall at the apartment complex, as I
remember, deadended.

The complex does allow pets under 25 pounds, with a non-refundable $300 deposit. The puppy was
mentioned only once, by a neighbor in the complex, who said Zachary was playing with his "new
puppy" the day before he disappeared.




49 . "LP, Thanks. I feel better."
Posted by Lilac on Nov-08-00 at 11:38 PM (EST)
Those dogs traced Zach to the wall? That makes me feel more secure that he ran away. I mean,
unless someone dragged him out of his apt, down the stairs, across the parking lot, etc...not likely. I
feel as though he's safe hiding somewhere.

Question. If you had a child disappear, would you move? weird.




50 . "K-9 In Action "
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-09-00 at 01:26 AM (EST)
Thanks LP, needed that
Lilac I suppose if I couldn't pay the rent, there would be no other way, EXCEPT to move IF I had
been evicted and refused? Heck the sheriff would come, my body out and all belongings on the curb.
Haven't you ever seen personal property, furniture next to the sidewalks...scavengers everyone
picking through that stuff...dogs, rain, mud and snow makes no difference.

I have seen it! It's a terrible shame and suppose we will be seeing more of it in the next year as
things tighten up, prices go sky high, including rent because the taxes go up and people just can't
make $ stretch far enough for food, let alone the monthly rent.




51 . "Close Thread Please "
Posted by LadyBug on Nov-09-00 at 06:04 PM (EST)
Please go to Part 2, this thread is loading to slow for some. Copy/paste what you wish from here to
there. Thanks all...

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