Who is Dr. Michael Graham?

A. The name Dr. Michael Graham doesn't ring a bell with me right now.

Q. He was not a consultant hired by the Boulder Police Department?

A. He may have been but I'm not familiar with that person.

Q. You don't recall Dr. Michael Graham taking the position that the pineapple found in JonBenet's
digestive system could have been eaten the day before? Does that refresh you in terms of Michael
Graham's involvement?

A. No, since you mentioned pineapple --

Q. I didn't ask you -- I asked you about Dr. Michael Graham.

A. I'm trying to answer the question.

Q. Well, my question is, does that refresh you about Dr. Graham?

A. In that limited way, no.

Q. The pineapple, we know the autopsy statement about the findings. Were there any tests
performed beyond the autopsy on those contents?

A. Yes.

Q. Tell me about that.

A. What I know about that is Detective Weinheimer received that assignment during the course of
the investigation, employed the help of I think a biological -- or a botanist or somebody of some
expertise at the University of Colorado, Boulder. The name Dr. Bach jumps out at me, as well as
others, and he completed a series of reports concerning the pineapple and I think to save time one of
those conclusions I think I put in the book.

Q. About the rinds being identical?

A. That it was a fresh pineapple consistent -- fresh pineapple with a rind.

Q. Rind being consistent -- oh, with a rind but consistent with pineapple found in the house or in the
bowl?

A. Yeah, and let me clarify that, pineapple consistent down to the rind with pineapple found in the
bowl in the kitchen.

Q. Consistent down to the rind. It seems to me pineapple with rind is pineapple with rind. Was
there something unique about this particular rind?

A. I think they were able to determine -- well, in fact, I know that fellow Officer Weinheimer
disclosed to us that they were able to characterize it as a fresh pineapple rather than a canned
pineapple.

Q. Okay.

A. I think the investigation lent itself as far as, and Detective Weinheimer is a capable investigator,
as far as contacting Dole Pineapple in Hawaii, et cetera.

Q. Do you know whether there were any other reports on the pineapple, other than the autopsy
reports and Dr. Bach's reports?

A. Yeah, there was a series of reports on Weinheimer's investigation.

Q. Do you know anybody else by name that was involved in that, other than the Dr.Bach? I mean,
Dole didn't give you any report, did they?

A. No, not that I'm aware of. Sorry, the names escape me but there are other reports with other
planters, I guess, pineapple, for lack of a better term, experts.

Q. Any of those reports, anybody come up with something that was inconclusive in terms of
findings?

A. I'm sorry, I don't recall the content of the reports.

Who eats pineapple rind?

St is an idiot, IMO. He's a joke. I don't think he knows the difference between a pineapple and a pine cone.

Frank Coffman was talking to Steve Thomas - - he told me about many conversations they had.

Frank Coffman was telling everyone that lab tests proved the pineapple in Jon's intestine was not only fresh and not canned but that it matched perfectly the pineapple in the Ramsey house - had to be from that pineapple.

That is not true.

The pineapple was fresh, not canned. Could have been from the bowl in the Ramseys house. Also could have come from fresh pineapple bought by Priscilla and stored in the Whites' refrigerator.

Now I have no idea if there was pineapple in the Whites' house that day - - I would love to see an inventory of items in the Whites' refrigerator and garbage on the 26th. I would love to know if Priscilla or Fleet remember having pineapple in their house that Christmas season.

So many questions we don't have answers to.

And too many myths put out or left out there by people like Thomas and Coffman.

I believe that Fleet answered "I don't remember" when asked if pineapple was served at his house, in his deposition.

Fleet's deposition has not been released, not at all. I don't know if I trust leaks there, he said "I don't know" a lot according to rumor but I really would like to see the actual Q&A before saying how he answered any particular question.

The point is, why would Fleet White reply to questions with "I don't know" when he claimed to be "all knowing" from the beginning, and had everyone believing he held the bombshell about the goings-on the morning of the 26th? So much for justice for JonBenet.

Could the pineapple have come from one of the fruit baskets given by the Ramseys for Christmas?

Similar fruit baskets would contain similar pineapple, no doubt.

Patsy won three, didn't she? She gave at least one away and probably kept one for the family, too.

It just sounds to me like Jonbenet grabbed some pineapple out of the bowl in the fridge some time before they headed off to the Whites' house.

Someone in the house the next day grabbed the bowl out of the fridge and set it out in case someone wanted something to eat. I doubt Patsy herself felt much like eatimg and really wasn't paying much attention to folks trying to be helpful in her kitchen.

Looks like Thomas didn't pay much attention to the fact that the pineapple fragments were already in the upper portion of the bowel and that the stomach contents contained only liquid. A huge waste of time trying to prove the pineapple was eaten just before Jonbenet was murdered, especially considering the autopsy report was available to him.

>Someone in the house the next day grabbed the bowl out of
>the fridge and set it out in case someone wanted something
>to eat. I doubt Patsy herself felt much like eatimg and
>really wasn't paying much attention to folks trying to be
>helpful in her kitchen.

Why didnt 'someone' leave any fingerprints on the bowl?

The point seems to be, the pineapple could have been eaten up to a day before? Would have no bearing on the crime, then, because there was "fresh" pineapple in the house that could have been eaten anytime Christmas Day. It sounds like only selective things were released to smear the Ramseys. Perhaps the "fragments" were identified as fresh pineapple, and fresh pineapple was found in a bowl. HOWEVER, this Dr. Graham also told the BPD that it could have been eaten up to 24 hours earlier.

come on.

even if there was pineapple in the gift baskets, those things are usually sealed, etc. not to mention it was fresh pineapple and she would have had a big job to do in order cut it up and eat it.
i cant picture a big pineapple in a gift basket anyway. usually those things have wine, expensive cheeses, chocolates, etc.

there is fresh pineapple in her intestine.
there is fresh pineapple in a bowl in the kitchen.
patsy ramsey didnt recognize the bowl as having been placed on the table before.
patsy said she didnt put the bowl out there and that it was highly unlikely that JonBenet or Burke would have went downstairs and set it up themselves.
i think its unbelievable people would dispute that she ate the pineapple.

BlueCrab, although he isnt popular here, had a good quote which said something like 'Its terrible people ignore evidence just because it doesnt fit their theory. JonBenet's body is trying to tell us what happened - listen to her'.

>i think its unbelievable people would dispute that she ate
>the pineapple.

No one is disputing that she ate pineapple. What is being disputed is whether it had any relevence to the murder.

>>i think its unbelievable people would dispute that she ate
>>the pineapple.
>
>No one is disputing that she ate pineapple. What is being
>disputed is whether it had any relevence to the murder.

I said 'the pineapple', referring to the pineapple on the table.

From a chat log with Steve Thomas:

crimeADM
Why do you refer to pineapple in the stomach when the stomach was empty at the time of the autopsy?

SteveThomas
is upper digestive tract acceptable to you? it matters little, as where the pineapple was found is consistent with the
time frame noted. The duodenum is the spot, the time window is the same. a technicality

crimeADM

What, in your opinion, was the time frame for the pineapple being eaten?
SteveThomas
the on-line system sent me a private message -- my answers are too long. Please refer to my book, in which I lay out
three different theories about the pineapple consumption, and see which makes sense to you

The "duodenum is the spot..."

The duodenum is a short "C" shaped narrow tube that joins the stomach to the small intestine. It is the part most proximal (closest) to the stomach. Transit times vary depending on which foods are combined. Most fresh fruit, including Pineapple, can transit through an empty stomach in 30+/- minutes from mouth to duodenum.

Except for "fecal matter" and what appeared at autopsy (later confirmed) to be "pineapple", the coroner wrote that the remainer of the intestine was "unremarkable." IOW there was nothing there to note. I think the last thing JB ate was the pineapple, possibly on her way to the basement. The length of JB's duodenum would be approximately the width of 12 of her fingers.

JMO

The doctors concluded that JonBenét could have eaten the pineapple Christmas day at her house.

The question I asked myself is this - - did it make more sense to believe JonBenét grabbed a bit of pineapple from the bowl on the table in her house? (Remember, the bowl had Patsy and Burke's prints on it, NOT JonBenét's. It seemed highly possible to me that Patsy had handled the bowl when putting dishes in the cabinet, Burke got the snack for himself and maybe his friends, and JBR snagged a couple pieces while passing through the room.)

Or was it possible for.... (Yes, we CAN discuss the BORG theory) ... for her mother to feed her a snack after getting home from the Whites because she asked for a bite to eat? I felt that certainly could have happened, BUT.... all the Ramseys said JonBenét went directly to bed and they had NO reason to lie about that. So while it COULD have happened, I have NO reason to think it DID.

Now, the third theory - - - was it possible for an intruder to take JonBenét from her bed, take her downstairs, feed her a snack, do "something" until the pineapple passed through the stomach - - then kill her in the basement without leaving getting anyone's attention or leaving evidence of such activity? I mean, they didn't find unmatched evidence in the dining room - - not one bit of evidence that the man was in that room at all.
The third theory makes NO sense to me.

I believe the pineapple was just before the family went over to the Whites' for dinner - - I think it is totally unrelated to the murder.

described as: "a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan colored thick mucous material without particulate matter indentified." and then goes on to describe "fragment pieces" of ellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material.

So what is "particulate matter?" It sounds to me like there was digested food in her stomach.....or close to being fully digested so it could pass on down the digestive tract. If that's the case, then the pineapple IS NOT the last thing she ate, and blows the whole stupid theory apart. Fiber such as that found in pineapple would not be digested.