#0, The Globe
Posted by jameson on Nov-07-02 at 07:51 PM
Candy has written up a synopsis...
The Globe, November 19, 2002 "JonBenet's Dying Mom's Final Fight to Clear Her Name"
Desperately fighting the cancer ravaging her body, Patsy Ramsey is talking about the moment she
meets her Maker - just as she launches a new fight to clear her name.
In a perplexing discussion at her local church, JonBenet's mom spoke about the "second chances" God
has given her - at least 500, she says, and how the Lord will have to pick her up when she enters
heaven because she'll be "so pooped".
(Patsy stated to worshipers at her church) "Relationships are no longer. They take too much work."
They were again baffled when she said "I have four kids, a son and three daughters. He's in California."
In fact...Burke lives with her and her husband John...in Atlanta.
Also, if Patsy was counting both her and John's children...they have two sons and three daughters
between them (Burke, John Andrew, Melinda and two daughters who died).
"It was very confusing, says a fellow worshiper. Patsy didn't seem to make much sense. For somebody
so articulate, it seemed bizarre."
(Then a description of the Today show appearance with Lin Wood and the deposition testimony recently)
An eyewitness said "Patsy didn't look well. She's obviously put on a bit of weight...(and describing John)
"He's losing his hair and hasn't aged well. The stress is obviously getting to him."
SHELBY LOOSCH AND DAWANA KAUFMANN
This is an insane article. Patsy knows full well how many children they have, (no one has been disowned) and John Andrew is NOT living in California. The unnamed sources are Miss Informantion and Vicious Gossip.
#1, RE: The Globe
Posted by jameson on Nov-14-02 at 07:01 PM
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Desperately fighting the cancer ravaging her body, Patsy Ramsey is talking about the moment she meets her maker - just as she launches a new fight to clear her name.
my comments will be in bold - Patsy is in great spirits - they caught the cancer early and treated it. She is, for the moment, in total remission and feeling well.
In a perplexing discussion at her local church, JonBenét's mom spoke about the "second chances" God has given her - at least 500, she says - and how the Lord will have to pick her up when she enters Heaven because she's be "so pooped."
Patsy believes she is imperfect and her faith in God includes the belief that he gives her 2nd chances and forgives her sins - - which she readily admits. The woman has precious few secrets. She is so open.
But notice that she believes she will be in Heaven - - not a doubt in her mind. If she was guilty of this horrible thing, her faith would require that she confess to be forgiven - - she would have to own the sin to get a second chance.
This is evidence of innocence - - no way is it a confession.
But she had fellow worshippers at the Church of the Apostles on Northside Parkway in Atlanta, GA., wondering just what she was talking about when she confessed, "Relationships are no longer. They take too much work."
Taken out of context, that statement could mean anything. But I am sure the tabloid will spin cruel.
They were again baffled when she said, "I have four kids, a son and three daughters. He's in California."
Unnamed source spewing crap here - - Patsy will tell you that she had 5 children and two are with their maker. And JAR is not in California - maybe for a visit - but he lives FAR from California. I know because we are in contact.
In fact, her son, Burke, 15, lives with her and her husband, John, at their new $600,000 Georgian home in an Atlanta suburb.
Burke lives with her and John in their new home. I don't know what it cost.
Also, if Patsy, 45 was counting both john's and her children, living and deqad, they have 2 sons and 3 daughters between them: Burke, John Andrew, 26, Melinda, 31, and two daughters tragically taken from them.
I have to say, this condecending tone from tabloid writers irks me - - they are out to condemn John and Patsy and try to sound like they really care about their tragic losses. They are really sick people, these reporters.
JonBenét was just 6 years old when she was found strangled and bludgeoned in the basement of her family's Boulder, Colorado home in 1996. Beth, John's 22 year old daughter from his earlier marriage was killed in a car accident in 1992.
"It was very confusing," says a fellow worshipper. "Patsy didn't seem to make much sense. For somebody so articulate, it seemed bizarre."
So this 'fellow worshipper' ran right out and called a tabloid with this 'bizarre' story? How wonderful.
Personally, I think the fellow worshipper lied or found her words twisted by the tabloid. Either way, if they called the tabloid to repeat anything said in church, they are as bad as Shapiro pretending he was a convert when he wanted only to get close to the Ramseys so HE might be paid for HIS stories in the Globe. A pox on those who would do that.
End part one - - will transcribe part 2 a bit later.
#2, RE: The Globe
Posted by jameson on Nov-14-02 at 07:23 PM
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-14-02 AT 09:56 PM (EST)
Meanwhile, the couple, who are under "an umbrella of suspicion" in the slaying of kiddie beauty queen JonBenét, have launched a last-ditch effort to clear their names.
Not quite right. The Ramseys have had quite a year - - patsy had chemo and John found a job, they moved and saw CBS and Court TV air some good documentaries on the case - - and they are now pushing for the investigation to be reopened so the killer can be identified and punished. Yes, it will clear their names too - - but that was not the priority here.
"The Ramseys have kind of run out of options," says their attorney, Lin Wood. "They are considering now whether they have any legal right to try to open up the records of this investigation to the public and whether they have any legal right to have this case transferred from the Boulder Police to the Boulder Sheriff's Department, where there are competent and experienced homicide investigators."
Wood recently released taped depositions of three key investigators in the case - ex-DA Alex Hunter, former lead detective Steve Thomas, and current Boulder, Colorado police chief Mark Beckner - in an attempt to show his clients are innocent of the unspeakable crime. The depositions are linked to a lawsuit against the Ramseys filed by someone they fingered as a possible suspect.
This is not news to us following the case. I can'twait until the deposition transcripts are released so we can see just how the lawmen handle the mistreatment of people when the evidence did NOT point to them.
Matt Lauer, who interviewed Wood on NBC's Today Show Oct. 28th, pointedout that while the investigators admitted that there was noevidenceto link the Ramseys to the murder,"There's nothing to rule them ut, just yet."
But Wood insisted the tapes show that the parents have been totally checked out by lawmen and are clean.
"The depositions revealed that the only individuals who were thoougly investigated in this cse were John and Patsy Ramsey," Wood told Lauer. "And the investigation came up empty in terms of any proof of their involvement."
I wish the Globe had published a copy of the CBI report that said the Ramseys could not have been the source of the DNA mixed with JonBenét's blood in her panties - - - but the tabloid would never do that - - it isn't the BORG thing to do.
Wood says the Ramseys believe investigators failed to check other possible suspects because they were too busy trying to pin the murder on them.
But Boulder authorities insist they left no stone unturned in their 6 year probe and investigated "about 140" possible suspects.
Boulder authorities lie. They did not properly investigate Oliva, Gardiner, Helgoth and many other very reasonable suspects. The evidence is there - - it says the BPD failed to do a complete and honest investigation. Too bad every copwhoworked on this case wasn't deposed. Oh what a story that would expose!
Still, this may be Patsy's last chanceto clear her name. the former Miss West Virginia is currently battling a recurrence of her ovarian cancer which first surfaced in 1993.
The battle is over. She tookthe treatments, the canser is gone. She is recovering nicely and NOT expected to die from cancer anytime soon. But that story wouldn't sell a tabloid - - so they lie. Shame on those reporters.
An eyewitness who recently saw the coupletells Globe, "Patsy didn't look well. She's obviously put on a bit of weight and looked much older than her 45 years."
"Her face and hands were all puffy and bloated. Shewas wearing a black pantsuit to try and hide the excesspounds and an unflattering wig, which didn't do her any justice.
And former computer tycoon John also looks worse for wear. "John had on a grey suit and a bow tie," says the eyewitness. "He's losing his hair and hasn't aged well. The stress is obviously getting to him."
When I hear these catty remarks, I always wonder what the person talking looks like. The tabloid mole I met was a skank - unkempt grey hair, overweight, dumpy to the max. Wonder how she thinks a man should look after 6 years like John has had. Whatever. the tabloid wrote its story - - it is pure spun BORG. Nasty and untrue.
Story by Shelby Loosch and Dawna Kaufmann - - may they one day have to face their own venom - karma is not kind to people like that.