Q. Well, did all the experts agree that JonBenet Ramsey was alive at the time of the injury to her
vagina?

A. Again, I don't know what experts you're referring to but we had --

Q. The ones that you listened to.

A. Let me finish, Mr. Wood.

Q. The ones that your department hired?

A. At times there was, among experts, as was to be expected, there was conflict of opinion. But
regarding the prior vaginal trauma if that's what you're asking about, this blue ribbon panel of pediatric
medical experts they brought in seemed to me to be in agreement on some other conclusions.

Q. I'm talking about the acute vaginal trauma she suffered at the time of her murder. The
agreement was unanimous that she was alive at the time that that vaginal trauma was inflicted, true?

A. Yes, I believe that's correct.

Q. Now, tell me who the members were of what you call the blue ribbon panel of pediatric experts,
give me their names, please.

A. I think the FBI recommended --

Q. Just their names, not the recommendation?

A. -- and tried to -- and he participated, was a doctor from California, Dr. John McCann, from
Miami was Dr., I believe it's, Valerie Rau and the third gentleman from St. Louis, I think he was the
Dean of the Children's Hospital or the pediatrics at Glenn Cannon and I don't recall his name offhand.

Q. Anybody else on this panel?

A. On and off, we saw one of Hunter's advisors, which was Krugman.

Q. Was he on the blue ribbon panel that you keep referring to?

A. Krugman?

Q. Yeah, the blue ribbon panel of pediatric experts that I asked you about. Was Krugman on that
panel?

A. No.

Q. Okay.

A. I think that panel consisted of those three individuals.

Jameson--I opened this topic and then went over to #34 for followup and saw that they were suddenly talking about John's golf bag. Surely the sexual assault was a critical topic. Was there any more to this that has been left out?

Not so far - - still about a hundred more pages - maybe more to come - - I will post the rest in a little bit - - hope to finish this afternoon.

Q. Did you know a Dr. Monteleone, M-o-n-t-e-l-e-o-n-e?

A. As a matter of fact, I think that's the name I could not recall that was the pediatric expert from
St. Louis.

Q. Did he ever indicate that he did not believe that parents would engage in the type of staging that
was being argued existed in the Ramsey case in the absence of pathology?

A. Well, that certainly I think would contradict what he put in a report on letterhead to the Boulder
Police Department.

Q. So you recall that report. Was that one of the documents you copied?

A. I don't know --

Q. Or received?

A. -- if that is, but I do recall that report and in that report I think the outstanding mention was that
he was of the opinion that she had sustained prior vaginal trauma prior to December 26 or 25.

If those people were impressive and wrote a definitive report saying there had been ongoing sexual abuse, Thomas would have said so in his book. As it was, he didn't make ANY reference to sexual assault. He theorized that her vaginal injury was the result of 'rough wiping'.

The BORG should take notes.

> He theorized that her
>vaginal injury was the result of 'rough wiping'.
>
>The BORG should take notes.

I am new to this discussion, but I think I can add something here: I have a 5 year old girl, and as much as I have tried to teach her, she is terrible about wiping properly. As a result, she gets little infections occasionally, which cause her to scratch herself, sometimes quite badly before she lets me know about it. So when I go to put some anti-biotic cream on her, that area tooks AWFUL. She is my third daughter- and the eldest was also this way. My middle daughter was more careful and so never once had an infection there. None of my girls have EVER been sexually assaulted or molested- but if you were to look at them, the eldest and youngest might show some external scarring from infections like this. Little girls are prone to this, as any good pediatrician would know. And if JonBenet were also prone to bedwetting, it would be even more so in her case- because bacteria would sit longer on that sensitive skin in and around the vaginal area.