<BR>*Fleet and Priscilla White addressed the Boulder City Council on this<BR>subject, August 6th, JonBenet's 12th birthday.<P>Address to the Boulder City Council, August 6, 2002<P>In February of 2000, a woman came forward with allegations and<BR>accusations against our family. The woman falsely alleged that we were<BR>ritual child sex abusers and involved in the homicide of JonBenet<BR>Ramsey. She also falsely alleged that we were part of a conspiracy that<BR>included prominent people in Boulder and elsewhere in Colorado. The<BR>woman and her allegations were first publicized by the E.W. Scripps<BR>owned Boulder Daily Camera in a libelous front page headline story on<BR>February 25, 2000 and the following day by another Scripps paper, The<BR>Rocky Mountain News. The Daily Camera article, authored by former Daily<BR>Camera editor Barrie Hartman, falsely implied that JonBenet had been<BR>tortured and killed at our home on December 25, 1996 when "an<BR>asphyxiation technique used to stimulate an orgasmic response during a<BR>child sex and porno 'party' went too far."<P>The story noted that while the Boulder Police did not find the woman to<BR>be credible, former District Attorney Alex Hunter regarded her as being<BR>"very believable". The article included a warning from Mr. Hunter to the<BR>Boulder Police, if they failed to investigate the woman's accusations,<BR>he would take the matter to the US Attorney. It was Mr. Hunter's<BR>favorable assessment of the woman that emboldened the Daily Camera, its<BR>publisher Colleen Conant and Scripps' lawyers to publish the article, an<BR>article they knew would open the way for publicizing additional details<BR>and embellishments of the woman's false accusations. Those libelous<BR>details were quickly provided by the Longmont Daily Times-Call, CBS<BR>owned KCNC News, Clear Channel KHOW AM 630 talk radio, FOX News and<BR>Boulder Community Access Television. There were also months of Internet<BR>leaks, interviews and anonymous commentary.<P>The public dissemination of the woman's false accusations that was<BR>intentionally set in motion by Mr. Hunter and The E.W. Scripps Company<BR>resulted in the most damaging defamation that can be imagined.<P>Notwithstanding its justified skepticism of the woman's truthfulness,<BR>the Boulder Police Department responded to the goading of the Daily<BR>Camera and the bullying of Mr. Hunter by immediately commencing a highly<BR>publicized investigation.<P>Unsatisfied, the Daily Camera published an editorial on March 22, 2000,<BR>criticizing the Boulder Police for not taking the woman's accusations<BR>seriously. In response, the Boulder Police Department dutifully strung<BR>out the investigation for eleven weeks. On May 15, 2000, Chief Beckner<BR>issued a public statement noting the conclusion of the investigation of<BR>the woman's accusations. In his statement, Chief Beckner indicated that<BR>none of her accusations and claims could be linked to the Ramsey<BR>homicide. What was not mentioned by Chief Beckner is the fact that the<BR>woman was a fraud and had broken the law by knowingly making false<BR>reports of serious criminal activity to the Boulder Police Department,<BR>the Boulder District Attorney and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.<BR>Nor did Chief Beckner make any reference to the central roles played in<BR>her criminal episode by a number of people including Mr. Hunter, Mr.<BR>Hill, Mr. Singular and Mr. Hartman as well as other employees and<BR>representatives of the E.W. Scripps Company. At a meeting at our home on<BR>June 13, 2000, Chief Beckner told us that he doesn't "battle someone who<BR>buys ink by the barrel."<P>Earlier this year, we requested criminal justice records relating to the<BR>investigation of the woman's accusations from Chief Beckner and District<BR>Attorney Mary Keenan pursuant to Colorado criminal justice record<BR>statutes. The Boulder Police have refused to release any of the records<BR>in its possession. The District Attorney, however, has released to us<BR>all documents in its possession relating to the woman's accusations and<BR>the ensuing investigation. Among those documents are notes taken at a<BR>February 16, 2000 meeting at the home of Mr. Hartman. Present at the<BR>meeting were Mr. Hartman and Mr. Hunter, as well as a lawyer, Lee Hill,<BR>who was representing the woman. Also in attendance was Stephen Singular,<BR>a Denver author of true crime books. In 1999 during the Ramsey grand<BR>jury investigation, a book authored by Mr. Singular was published. The<BR>premise of Mr. Singular's book was that a group of people in Boulder and<BR>possibly a Boulder municipal employee, were engaged in pedophilia and<BR>pornography and may have been responsible for the death of JonBenet or<BR>participated in a conspiracy to cover up the circumstances of her death.<BR>Mr. Singular further speculated that the cover up conspiracy may have<BR>plagued the Ramsey investigation from the outset and could explain why<BR>charges had not been brought against someone for JonBenet's homicide. In<BR>his book, Mr. Singular claimed that he had met with Mr. Hunter on<BR>several occasions and that Mr. Hunter had urged him to pursue his<BR>theories. Mr. Singular dedicated his book to Mr. Hill.<P>The documents that we received from the District Attorney strongly<BR>support what we have suspected for some time. The investigation of<BR>JonBenet's homicide has been conducted in a moral and ethical vacuum and<BR>has been driven by petty self-interest, vindictiveness, and a profound<BR>disregard for the criminal justice system and common civility.<P>On June 24 of this year, we applied to the Boulder District Court for an<BR>order directing the City, Chief Beckner and the Boulder Police<BR>Department to show cause why they should not release its records<BR>relating to the investigation of the woman's false accusations. The<BR>Court has set a hearing for August 16th. Our family and the public are<BR>entitled to each and every government document that may shed light on<BR>the deceit and misconduct of Mr. Hunter, Mr. Hartman, Ms. Conant and<BR>anyone else responsible for promoting and publicizing the woman and her<BR>false accusations. Forcing us to bring this matter into the District<BR>Court further defines the leadership of Boulder municipal government to<BR>be little more than a group of selfish and cowardly civil servants with<BR>no genuine or abiding interest for the rights of Boulder citizens or<BR>their criminal justice system.<P>In May 2001, John Ramsey's criminal defense lawyer, Harold Haddon,<BR>appeared in Denver at a panel discussion. The topic was "The Media and<BR>the Bar." Ironically, the moderator was one of Patsy Ramsey's criminal<BR>defense lawyers, Patrick Burke. In response to a question from Mr. Burke<BR>regarding what ethical rules had applied to the interaction of lawyers<BR>with the press in the Ramsey Investigation, Mr. Haddon arrogantly<BR>decreed: "There weren't any rules that applied to anybody in the legal<BR>profession, members of the District Attorney's office or representatives<BR>of the Ramseys and various witnesses." Mr. Haddon was wrong. There were<BR>rules. And there were laws. What Boulder and the State of Colorado<BR>lacked were government leaders, prosecutors, judges and attorney<BR>regulation and law enforcement officials who possessed the courage and<BR>the integrity to enforce them.<P>We request that the City of Boulder reconsider its position and release<BR>the criminal justice records that we have requested pursuant to Colorado<BR>law.<BR>

Are they still trying to be heros?

Fleet White ain't no hero.<BR>He never was, he never will be.<P>He got caught up in some very distressing events.<BR>He doesn't like the heat.<P>He didn't choose to enter the kitchen.<P>He was a bit weird at the crime scene and some say he was a bit weird earlier; nearly all agree he has been quite a bit weird at the funeral and afterwards.<P>He is probably just some poor guy with a family allowance instead of a backbone and he would like all these scandalous accusations to be made right and the accusers to go away and leave him alone.<P>He just doesn't realize that neither one is going to happen.<P>It won't be made right and it won't stop.<P>And he ain't never gonna be a hero.<BR>

wasn't comin' through strong enough.<BR>I agree with you 100% DonBradly. He turned on his friends and the heat is on him anyway. Either he is trying to push attention away from him, or he attracts it. <BR>A while ago I came across this web site that had a special letter thanking him in his efforts to find justice in this case. The heck?! <BR>So for the record...I am not part of the Fleet White fan club.

Since when does the city council have power to tell the Court or DA what to do? The police, maybe.

<a href="http://stream.ci.boulder.co.us:8080/ramgen/channel8/cty_cncl/Aug_6/ag1_2.rm";>http://stream.ci.boulder.co.us:8080/ramgen/channel8/cty_cncl/Aug_6/ag1_2.rm<;/a> <P><BR>I was a bit amazed at my own reaction to the speech.<P>Proscilla started talking about 6:17 and was followed by Fleet.

Fleet White - "The investigation of JonBenet's homicide has been conducted in a moral and ethical vacuum and has been driven by petty self-interest, vindictiveness, and a profound disregard for the criminal justice system and common civility."

>"The investigation of JonBenet's homicide has been conducted <BR>>in a moral and ethical vacuum and has been driven by <BR>>petty self-interest, vindictiveness, and a profound <BR>>disregard for the criminal justice system and common civility." <P>Guess that makes it routine, huh?<P>Actually his comments are probably quite correct. The petty self interest that allows a chief of police to tell the FBI and the Denver homicide squad to go take a hike sure started the case off wrong as did the BPD's refusal to meet with the Ramseys promptly. A Mayor going on TV to imply the parents are involved so as to 'calm the people of Boulder' is absurd. The Tabloids generating rumors and creating false leads for the investigators is abominable. <P><P><BR>

<center><font size="1" color="#ff0000">LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-02 AT 10:23 PM (EST)</font></center><p>This woman was brought forward by the lawyer Lee Hill. Probably this was to distract attention from his client Miles.<P>Lee Hill does not seem to me to be very ethical. <P>His association with AIM, which tells a lot of easily disproved lies, enumerated below, makes me suspicious of his honesty.<P>AIM tries to discredit the FBI withpatently false information. Here are some allegations AIM has made about the FBI "failure" to investigate the murder of AIM members and the FBI responses.<BR>This was a big eye-opener to me about AIM.<P><a href="http://minneapolis.fbi.gov/pine_ridge_report.htm";>http://minneapolis.fbi.gov/pine_ridge_report.htm<;/a> <P>AIM claims that the FBI never investigated all these killings allegedly committed by a group named GOON, supposedly the muscle for the elected Ogala Indian leader named Wilson, that AIM doesn't like.<P>Actually, after reading the AIM allegations and the FBI account of the court cases, I doubt that GOON exists at all and believe that GOON is a fabrication of AIM propaganda.<P>I think that this Lee Hill is really a dishonest person, myself, who is out to discredit legitimate law enforcement and elected Indian leaders.<P>In many cases, the supposed AIM people killed by the GOONs really just died of alchohol, fights, traffic accidents, and other causes.<P>Certainly there is no truth to the BIG LIE that the FBI didn't investigate, since in most cases there were trials and convictions.<P>AIM is a bunch of liars who are trying to depose elected Indian officials by making it look like they have FBI-CIA sponsored GOON squads going around assassinating AIM members. IT is just a big lie.<P>I think that AIM is really a criminal/terrorist/propaganda organization that is trying to discredit elected Indian organizations and law enforcement.<P>Lee Hill represented AIM, so I guess the same goes for him.<P><P><P>

that the Whites are able to publically clear up the mess "that woman" created with her lies.

and I know of several people who met with Nancy Krebs.<P>They were all very taken with her - - she obviously WAS someone's victim. <P>Personally I think she was lying to get attention - - she may well have been someone's victim but I don't think it was at all related to the Ramsey murder.<P>I personally think the Whites should be given all the records, let the truth come out. Why not???<P>In this, I support the Whites and I wonder if their experiences at all make them reflect on what the Ramseys have gone through.

and it's the first time I have seen them, really. I was impressed with them. I think they have a right to be angry because of the false allegations. I am not sure where they stand now in relation to the Ramseys guilt or innocence, but they should have the records and Ms. Krebs should be held accountable for her part in defaming them.<P>The above post is just my opinion, of course.

Sure, I'd like everything to come out into the open too, but it ain't gonna happen!<P>Think of all those Facilitated Communication accusations, all those Multiple Personality Disorder accusations, all those child sex abuse accusations. The agencies want everything swept silently under the rug.<P>I don't think Fleet White has ever accused the Ramseys or complained of any PRE-investigation behavior at any time.<BR>

Fleet White is one of the players,certainly not the only one,that has worried me for years.
I can't get (sissi) to post on Westerfield,where this may belong,however,I see something that indicates odd behavior in both men.
Everyone is jumping to say,Westerfield had no right to go into the little girl's room (his niece) and that this definately indicates a "history". I don't know what to think,but I do agree,this was the "almost confession" rumored to be in the Reddon tapes. However it plays out,I think it would have influenced my thinking had I known this bit of information to consider during the trial.
White is held in the same light,IMO,with his bathroom care and the wiping of Jonbenet. Are these kinds of things really innocent behaviors?

>White is held in the same light,IMO,with his bathroom care
>and the wiping of Jonbenet. Are these kinds of things really innocent behaviors?

I don't know. They each bespeak an incredible 'stupidity'.
I've always felt that 'panty-changing Fleet White' was at best a stupid man with 'family-money' instead of a backbone.

As to the DW incident: yes, perhaps its more relevant for a different thread, but it is also of interest here. After hearing about it, you don't want to say it makes him guilty, but you sure don't feel good about things at all. A nagging sense of doubt that simply will not ever subside.

Fleet White's only crime may well be Wierdness in the First Degree, but that sure taints him indelibly. Perhaps it is an unfair taint and an undeserved taint,,,but nevertheless, it is indelible!

Okay. I've never met and never will meet Fleet White.
But I do not like him.

There are a few things that appear to be in his favor:

He has never made any accusations concerning the Ramsey's pre-26th behavior.

But there are quite a few things that appear to cast a very dark shadow over him:

His behavior at the crime scene.
His behavior at or about the time of the funeral, particularly his apparently having been 'thrown out' of two homes despite the 'time and place' considerations wherein guests would be given great lattitude.
His "money bags instead of a backbone". Now I will admit that I do not know anything at all about his finances or his backbone (either his real one or his 'character' one). I only feel that his 'family business' appears to be in Irvine, CA not Boulder, Colorado and that despite the internet he seems to be very remote from those interests.
The panty-changing behavior can be purely without any improper motives ( I don't know ), but it is surely a stupid thing for him to have ever done even once.

So although I don't think he is criminally involved in either the planning or execution of the crime, I don't like Fleet White.

>Some of the truth is coming out thanks to Darnay Hoffman and his lawsuits.
>(I think his lawsuits are wrong, but I am not going to ignore the
>good information that may come out because of it - - like that Fleet
>White is NOT saying he thinks the Ramseys did this and his
>deposition was NOT damning to the Ramseys in any way, shape or form.)

That is Fleet White's redeeming quality. He may be a 'strange dude' but he is now and always has been perfectly able to come right out and make some sort of accusation that the Ramseys were involved in the murder of JonBenet. He has always refused to do so and has limited all his comments to post-12/26 activities.

Judge will consider request to release part of
Ramsey file

JFleet White Jr. and his wife, Priscilla, ask for file they say
involves them

By Pam Regensberg, Camera Staff Writer
September 13, 2002

A Boulder district judge said Thursday that she will consider a request to release a file
related to the nearly 6-year-old murder investigation of JonBenet Ramsey.

District Judge Lael Montgomery told Fleet White Jr. and his wife, Priscilla, former
friends of John and Patsy Ramsey, that she will issue a written ruling on their request.
She did not say when that would be.

Earlier this year, the Whites filed court documents seeking the release of criminal
justice records involving a California woman who told Boulder police she thought
JonBenet was killed as part of a child sex abuse ring.

The Boulder couple claimed that the California woman falsely accused them of being
involved in that ring.

The woman's theory about JonBenet's death appeared in a Daily Camera article in
February 2000, resulting in a criminal libel investigation in which no one at the
newspaper was charged.

"This has been swept under the big rug, and this is our attempt to pull it out and see
what it is," Fleet White, acting as his own attorney, told the judge on Thursday.

White said he wants to revisit what he called the "ethical and potentially illegal
conduct" by those involved in the publication of that article.

Police Chief Mark Beckner, saying the disclosure of that file could compromise the
murder investigation, has repeatedly refused the Whites' request to access the
40-page file.

"This is just a small piece of our ongoing investigation," Beckner testified at the
hearing.

District Attorney Mary Keenan has released some information concerning the case to
the Whites.

Fleet White was with John Ramsey on Dec. 26, 1996, when Ramsey found his
daughter's beaten and strangled body in the basement of the Ramseys' 15th Street
home. The girl was asphyxiated with a garrote and had been hit on the head with a
blunt object. No arrests have been made in connection with the homicide.

Contact Pam Regensberg at (303) 473-1329 or regensbergp@thedailycamera.com.

I certainly hope the judge complies and opens the records that concern the Whites. They deserve the right the face their accuser, and to take appropriate steps if warranted.

Yes they do! They deserve the right to view and answer the accusations.
The parallels are multiplying among the Jonbenet and the Danielle cases. We now have a mystery woman,claiming another grand-pa was a prolific molester ,grandpa Marple. There is no rebuttal,she can say what she wants,no investigation,as in the way of the White's mystery woman, to discredit her. This type of evidence,carries a tremendous amount of weight in the minds of many,and could be the determining factor between life and death. (of course our jury doesn't know,because they don't have conversations,watch tv,read the news,or live on this planet)

I hope the Whites get their wish and moreover I hope ALL of the case records are released for public viewing soon. Minus any evidence that would be known only to the killer. I think the BPD will never actively investigate the case again so release the case records and give the public a chance to help solve the case.

>I think the BPD will never actively investigate the case again

The BPD has never 'actively investigated the case'. The BPD conducted a narrowly focused campaign against the Ramseys engaging only in mere lip-service and 'papering the file' activities when it came to other theories.

Judge Considers Release Of Some JonBenet Files
Fleet And Priscilla White Want Access To Records
Posted: 11:10 a.m. MDT September 13, 2002

BOULDER, Colo. -- A district judge will consider a request by two
former friends of JonBenet Ramsey's family for access to some of the
police files kept in the investigation into the girl's 1996 slaying.

Fleet White Jr. (pictured, left) and his wife,
Priscilla, have asked officials to turn over files
involving a California woman's claims that the
Whites were part of a child sex abuse ring that
contributed to JonBenet's death. Police have said
there is no evidence to support the woman's
theory.

Boulder District Judge Lael Montgomery told the
couple at a hearing Thursday that she will rule on the request.

"This has been swept under the big rug, and this is our attempt to pull it
out and see what it is," White told Montgomery, acting as his own
attorney.

The Whites requested access to some of the investigation files in a
three-page document filed June 24 in Boulder District Court.

Police Chief Mark Beckner has refused their request, saying the file is
part of the investigation and not subject to disclosure under the state's
criminal justice records laws.

JonBenet Ramsey, 6, was found strangled in the basement of her family's
home in Dec. 26, 1996. Police not charged anyone in her death.

Fleet White was with John Ramsey when Ramsey found his daughter's
body.