Q. There was a Barbie nightgown found in the wine cellar where JonBenet Ramsey's body was
found, right?

A. Right.

Q. Was there any evidence obtained from that nightgown?

A. Not that I'm aware of prior to departing August of '98.

Q. There was no fiber evidence that you're aware of that was found on that nightgown?

A. Not that Detective Trujillo shared with me.

Q. Was there any blood evidence found on that nightgown?

A. Not that I'm aware of.

Q. Any hair evidence found on that nightgown, to your knowledge, firsthand or secondhand?

A. Not that I'm aware of.

Q. Was there any decision made or conclusion drawn, perhaps is the better way to say it, that you're
aware of, from any source, as to whether the panties that JonBenet Ramsey was found in had been
worn and washed in the past or were new, in effect, fresh out of the package?

A. I believe that was after my departure that that underwear investigation took place.

Q. So, again, the state of the evidence with respect to that issue, you do not know, true?

A. Right.

Q. So, again, the state of the evidence with respect to that issue, you do not know, true?

A. Right.

Q. Do you know whether there were any autopsy photos that showed JonBenet from the standpoint
of being able to look at it to see whether or not the panties, not the other articles of clothing, but the
panties, fit her or whether they were obviously not a correct fit?

A. It's my belief from detective briefings that they were referred to as oversized floral panties.

Q. Thank you. Were there any autopsy photos is my question?

A. Without the long-john over pants covering the underwear, I don't recall seeing any autopsy photos
of just the child in her underpants.

A. I believe that was after my departure that that underwear investigation took place.

AMAZING - - they weren't checking the panties until at least 18 months after the murder? Can that be true??

I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm not a police officer but gee, wouldn't that evidence have been some of the very first to have been analyzed?

Q. Was there any blood evidence found on that nightgown?

A. Not that I'm aware of.

Wasn't it his job to know what evidence was found on the nightgown?

This is just another way to say "I don't know."

If he really didn't know - - - what does that say about his "expert" position on this case?

Would any of us been that uninterested in what the evidence was? I really don't think so.