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#0, Ramsey-Paris-CIA/Lockheed-NCRI-MW.
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 02:13 PM
The mystery woman of k-frogs is an Iranian named Maryam Rajavi. She's being detained outside Paris for terrorist activity against Iran's Mullahs from Paris.

Ramsey connection may well be from Lockheed/Martin CIA work through the Access Graphics office in Paris. This may well have occurred with or without Ramsey full knowledge. The shifting of employees after demands by Lockheed to Ramsey as to Paris office would be telling.

This is info for a NEW EXPANSION of the big picture posssibilities of Ramsey death as payback by Middle eastern "foreign factions."

Congressman Tancredo's association to the nrci and their female president Maryam Rajavi is big news. Denver is a and has been from early 1990's the USA hotbed of Middle East politics.

The Ramsey Paris office is central to JBR's death.


#1, RE: Ramsey-Paris-CIA/Lockheed-NCRI-MW.
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 02:15 PM
In response to message #0
October 1997 US State Department designates the Mojahedin a terrorist organisation according to the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of the same year.

 http://www.iran-interlink.org/files/child%20pages/Timeline.htm



#2, RE: Ramsey-Paris-CIA/Lockheed-NCRI-MW.
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 02:16 PM
In response to message #1



"Tom Tancredo, a US patriot, and a strong supporter of democracy in Iran", by Mehdi Ghaemi

The January 18th editorial in the Rocky Mountain News editorial entitled “Tancredo and the Mujahedin," echoes the “outright falsehood” and “wholesale packaged propaganda” of the Iranian regime and those who tend to appease them by attacking the only viable Iranian opposition, and ha conscientious, principled, and pathetic supporters in US Congress, such as the honorable Thomas Tancredo,

Astonishingly similar editorials with almost identical use of words have run in the main state-run newspapers of the Iranian regime What a coincidence! By dismissing the only viable opposition without offering an alternative, the editorial has in effect endorsed the continuation of the rule of the clerical dictatorship in Iran. After alt American people who have lost their beloved ones in the hands of sponsors of the most notorious terror network and the Iranians who have lost their family members through public hangings and stoning are not “naIve” to confuse the terrorist with the freedom fighter seeking to establish democracy, and human rights.

The attic failed to mention that the flail-page advertisement in The New York City, was sponsored by members of our “Colorado’s Iranian American Community” who have consciously supported the Mujahedin and their congressional supporters, and will continue to do so with even getter intensity.

It is a shame for the Rocky Mountain News to serve the purpose of the religious dictatorship ruling Iran by calling a movement, who has lost 120,000 people due to execution, public hangings, and stoning as “thugs,” and their congressional supporters as “gullible,”

In summer of 1991, according to media reports, nearly 7000 Iranian-Americans in Colorado gathered in Denver in support of the opposition Mujahedin and against Khatami right after he became president. A similar demonstration in support of the Mujahedin drew 10,000 in New York City (see Washington Times, October 29, 1998); 12,000 in Washington, DC.  Such an extensive support would not have been available to the Mujahedin if they were not independent. Youth in thousands have recently crossed border joining their National Liberation Army in the Iran-Iraq border region.

Arnold Beichnman, a Hoover Institution research fellow, and a columnist for the Washington Times on March 31, 2002 referred to the “worldwide support NCR! enjoys among a remarkable number of parliamentarians in the Western democracies,” -. and he then listed “for the record the several thousand parliamentarians who have endorsed NCRFs fight against the Iranian theocracy. The list included consistent support in ITS congress since 1992, in British Parliament since 1995 and thousands of parliamentarians in other European countries such as Italy, Sweden, Norway, Switzerlaz4 Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, and France to date.

Therefore, it is the author of the editorial --and not thousands of members of congress and parliaments-- that baa been “duped” by certain political lobbies to act in favor of the world’s most active state sponsor of terrorism. It is the ruling clerics -not the Mujahedin— that “presents a clear danger to U.S.”

Mr. Bruce McColm, the former Executive Director of Freedom House and President of International Republican Iran has testified as such: “The PMOI is not a terrorist organization in the meaning of the statute. It does not target civilians and it does not engage in or sponsor international acts of terrorism... In my opinion, the designation of the Mujahedin as a terrorist organization was not as a result of any allegations of terrorist acts or threats to our national security, but rather was a concession by our government to the Tehran government so as to encourage Iran to become more moderate in its own foreign policy and actions.”

In bears no fruit to echo the voice of the mullahs in Denver metro area where there are hundreds of Iranians who have lost a Loved one in the struggle for freedom and democracy In Iran by the barbaric regime in Iran. Freedom will prevail in Iran.

Mehdi Ghaemi
Chairman
Colorado’s Iranian American Community





#3, RE: Ramsey-Paris-CIA/Lockheed-NCRI-MW.
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 02:24 PM
In response to message #2
The "foreign faction" ransom note element as well as my own wild Muslim Koran comparison translation of the ransom note has lead me to this 'mystery woman' in Paris. Well, the truth is a vision led me to seek this woman's idenity since 1997. Maryam Rajavi is the Western Worlds pick for Iran's new leadership. The Paris detention is more to protection, than to arrest.

My interest back in Denver/Boulder is her Muslim counterpart fighter against the NCRI and the Ramseys having become victims in an international conflict.

Did Mr. Ramsey or Lockheed/Martin become involve with NCRI Paris activity for CIA purposes against the Mullahs of Iran?


#4, Access Graphics-Paris- leadership change
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 03:18 PM
In response to message #3
Did Mr. Ramsey a U.S. Navy officer bend to Lockheeds/Marin demands for their (Lockheed/CIA leadership choice in the Paris office for intelligence purposes pre-1996?

Was Access Graphics a covert CIA front supporting the NCRI Maryam Rajavi anti-Mullahs activities.

Did the Mullah's get even with Lockheed Martin/CIA support in Paris?

Does Lockheed Maritn and the CIA owe the Ramseys a explanation?

What was Mr. Ramsey's friends name that he had to remove from AG leadership position?

Who took over AG's Paris office leadership?


#5, Picture of mystery woman
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 03:36 PM
In response to message #4
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2980279.stm


Here is a picture on BBC.COM news of Mayam Rajavi. This Iranian woman and the possible association to Access Graphics Paris office is the point here.

I can tell you that this woman has close association to the decendants of the anceint Queen Sheba in Yemen, the women of webbed fingers. Jewish Palm readers.

Maryam Rajavi is Prophetically declared to become the next FREE President of Iran.



#6, Jeff Merrick
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 03:38 PM
In response to message #5
I believe this was the name of the Ramsey business associate removed from Access Graphics. Was he the Paris office leader?

#7, Doesn't work
Posted by jameson on Jun-19-03 at 05:42 PM
In response to message #6
Access Graphics never had a Paris office.

#9, RE: Doesn't work
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 05:55 PM
In response to message #7
>Access Graphics never had a Paris office.

I'm sure that the past qoutes were to an office in Boulder Mr. Ramsey), Atlanta (Patsy's parents) and a European office for distribution I understood to be out of Paris, France.

No European Operation?


#8, "country that it serves" Covert war-Iran
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 05:50 PM
In response to message #6
The ransom note's second sentence delivers us literally to the conflict for perp. The issue is the country that Access Graphics serves.

The point here's that AG being a Lockheed subsidary was being used by CIA covert operations against Iran clerics rule. The support of NCRI Maryam Rajavi and her military leg led by her husband in anti-Iran clerics leads back to Boulders Lockheed--Access Graphics IMO.

The focus of suggestion is by the change of leadership in the AG Paris office pre-12-25-96.

Recently we have come to hear public releases requesting the removal of the Ramseys from suspicion. I suggest we're entering a parallel movement into Iran confrontation and that the Ramseys were victims of Irans mullah's terrorist acivity in the USA. JonBenet is in my opinion the perfect national rallying point of our present dangerous predictament with Irans Mullah's mass destruction threats.

"WE RESPECT YOUR BUSINESS BUT NOT THE COUNTRY THAT IT SERVES."

Access Graphics "serves" the U.S.A as a country." Literally or figuratively as to meaning?

Paris is central to this drama of a covert war and JonBenet Ramseys death.


#10, RE: "country that it serves" Covert war-
Posted by Lilac on Jun-19-03 at 06:10 PM
In response to message #8
Well, if they did indeed have overseas operations (which I didn't realize), then it's certainly worth looking into. You'd think John would have mentioned any foreign office to the police, considering the words in the r-note.

How are you finding this info? Is it in the news? or what.


#11, RE: "country that it serves" Covert war-
Posted by jameson on Jun-19-03 at 08:33 PM
In response to message #10
AG was in Amsterdam, not in Paris.

#12, RE: "country that it serves" Covert war-
Posted by f-e on Jun-19-03 at 08:55 PM
In response to message #11
>AG was in Amsterdam, not in Paris.

Amsterdam is a 5 hr drive from Paris. The distance is alike Los Angeles to San Francisco.

The point here is to our 'country'(countries) covert activities and Access Graphics/Lockheed/Martin involvement in Europe as to be centralized to Paris.

A literal interpetation of the Ramsey ransom note leads to just such a conclusion coupled with the Muslim word usage, FEAR threats and the #1 "foreign faction" motive being Ramsey for Ramzi Yousef.

Watch the Paris news about this woman Maryam Rajavi, she's a rising star.


#13, RE: "country that it serves" Covert war-
Posted by F-e on Jun-19-03 at 09:10 PM
In response to message #10
>Well, if they did indeed have overseas operations (which I
>didn't realize), then it's certainly worth looking into.
>You'd think John would have mentioned any foreign office to
>the police, considering the words in the r-note.
>
>How are you finding this info? Is it in the news? or what.

"Listen carefully!" Does anyone belive the Boulder Police, Colorado State Police or even the FBI have any ability to investigate Lockheed Martins covert activity contracts with the CIA? John Ramsey himself is not capable!

My understanding, but let Jams correct if she can, it's just now entering the phase of the CIA covert development to expose the loss of JonBenet Ramsey to Iranian foreign agents in 1996. The exposure is to rally the USA public sentiment toward a full regime change in Iran by internal disruption or by our military force.

Lilac, when our nation goes to war, it unites its' separate entities into an orchestraded patterned voice. A voice that lays forth before the American public, its' intentions. Our preparation is at a high development level of the final intent and conclusion of already pre-determined events. JonBenet revelation about her cause of death is near to be declared as an act of terror on our Nation's soil.

Our daughter of America JonBenet Ramsey murdered by foreign agents.


#14, f_e
Posted by Lilac on Jun-19-03 at 10:15 PM
In response to message #13
Sorry, I'm in a hurry now, but just so you know...

A few years ago we got very deep into discussion about Lockheed and the Denver Airport. Look in the archives, but there is talk of Masons, airport monuments donated by Masons, a mural of a girl who looks a lot like JB...

I'll check my files to see if I have any saved info on it, too. Mikie may remember. Or Disman. I haven't seen Disman on here lately though.


#15, Post 9-11-01 attack.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 00:46 AM
In response to message #14
Look, the Gov and FBI had warnings of terrorist attacks in the USA pre-9-11, but they all chose to leave the airport door wide open. K-bang.

The Ramsey's case was years before and kidnappings were small in numbers from foreign nationals. The international cooperation with foreign countries was limited and Boulder police jurisdiction disallowed a bigger picture to develope from foreign motive.

The Lockheed/Martin purchase of Access Graphics left the Ramseys without the same concern for security as other Lockheed/Martin CEO's would conduct. In fact, the Ramseys lived in a Boulder fantasy world with high exposure from the world's most hated corporate entity(Lockheed/Martin) in the Middle East.

Denver/Boulder were a national hotbed of Iranian's anti-to-Mullahs and the Denver Saudi student Alomari lost his passport used on 9-11, all pre-12-96, all in Denver/Boulder Colorado.

Did the blood letting Muslim extremists find Lockheed/Martin's weak point to attack? John Ramsey!

How much investigation ever went into a "foreign faction". Zero.

Ignorance of your enemy is to blame another. The FBI are more responsible as to failure than the Boulder Police ever were in my opinion.

#1 "foreign faction" motive 1996 was Ramsey for Ramzi Yousef.

People like to say, even if JBR was dead in basement the perp would still take her for ransom. Wrong, if child doesn't speak on the phone, no ransom paid.

Lilac, F-e & Dis_man are the same. Yes, I remember the artistic depiction at airport discussion. Art is revealing.


#16, RE: Post 9-11-01 attack.
Posted by F_e on Jun-20-03 at 00:57 AM
In response to message #15
Well, I'll be!!! I've missed you. I thought you kind of sounded familiar. I almost said that you sound like Disman. ha.


#17, Negotiation required a live child.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 01:13 AM
In response to message #15
The big tent event of JonBenet for Ramzi Yousef would of required a LIVE speaking child on video. The perp would of clearly contacted media entities for coverage of what was to become the BIGGEST show on earth television. This all coupled with the bizarre coded ransom note and terrified Lockheed/Martin parents.

The real life negotiations of JonBenet for Ramzi Yousef. Could you write the story?

The Middle East Muslims would have seen it as Allah's will to punish the American corporate infidels for theft of Muslim wealth and religious purity.

Lockheed/Martin, Saudi Arabia's #1 American corporation for years and years in billions of dollars in contracts. Now the VP Cheney's old corporation is #1 in Iraqi for billions in businesss. In the end, higher gas prices & taxes mean greater contracts and profits for USA politically connected international corporations.

Free enterprise, no way! Follow the money....How's this all playing out between the Muslim Arab Sunnis (USA trade) and the Irainian Shiites (French, Euro, Russian trade) in competition for religious dominance?

Big money, big powers and big plays. JBR got caught in the middle! Iran....


#18, RE: Negotiation required a live child.
Posted by Lilac on Jun-20-03 at 03:04 AM
In response to message #17
Post #16 was from me. Sorry 'bout that.

Re: Item 15 and the governor...that may explain what I've always wondered about...that is, WHAT politician (gov) would publicly blame someone for a crime that they had not even been arrested for. Always thought that he couldn't possibly be governor and be that stupid.


#19, If there was an international
Posted by Maikai on Jun-20-03 at 03:11 AM
In response to message #18
connection involving terrorists---then why wouldn't there have been more of a statement in the note about their cause? Instead of writing what sounds like something an adolescent would do. And if it was a more organized group, then I think they would have succeeded in removing JBR from the house....they would not have come off like a bunch of amateurs, IMO.

#20, Amateur or professional
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 10:04 AM
In response to message #19
>connection involving terrorists---then why wouldn't there
>have been more of a statement in the note about their cause?
> Instead of writing what sounds like something an adolescent
>would do. And if it was a more organized group, then I
>think they would have succeeded in removing JBR from the
>house....they would not have come off like a bunch of
>amateurs, IMO. (Maikai)

Maikai, You see acts of an amateur but I see acts of a well organized professional. If you could list your amateur deductions and I'll list some professional ones.

Professional deductions:
Entry without detection. Fact.
Chose safest self entry and exit. Assumed.
Organized ransom note written. Fact
Low carry in items for crime. Fact.
Head blow powerful enough to kill. Fact.
Garotte strangulation powerful enough to kill. Fact.
Entry into child's room without detection. Fact.
Kidnaped child down to basement without detection. Fact.
Brillant choice of ransom note placement on 1st floor stairs. Fact.
Exit without detection. Fact.
Remains uncaught. Fact.
Remains silent. Fact.

Professionals do make errs. The err of killing JBR versus the intended kidnaping and post ransom event allows for much speculation on why the err.

Our expectations can't drive a well organized plan as to amatuerish just because it failed to fulfill its' original goal.


#22, International or national.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 10:24 AM
In response to message #20
The ransom note face value says--international criminal activity. There's no crime evidence to prove this was not a "foreign faction" but the greatest attention of investigation goes to local peodophile with a high level crime deception expression.

Jameson herself tells us that the Ramsey business worked out of the European sex freedom capital of Amsterdam. An interesting parallel line continues to follow Ramsey's international business with the location of Euro sex and Euro "foreign factions" of extremist Muslims.

The now known "foreign faction" entities of 1996 are very active and with close associations to sex clubs in Europe and in American cities like Denver and especially in Las Vegas.

The #1 "foreign faction" motive of Ramsey for Ramzi Yousef no longer in my opinion seems so far from the truth when the sex and religious extremism is seen together as the prime location of British Orange and Muslim terrorism.


#21, Any two-bit criminal
Posted by Maikai on Jun-20-03 at 10:19 AM
In response to message #0
that had a history of breaking and entering, would have been able to enter the house without detection......someone prone to violence would have no problem with the brutal attack-----amateur when it came to kidnapping----they weren't successful, and botched it. Why would they play games, and not just come out with their motive in the ransom note, if it was an organized terrorist thing?

That's not to say the perp couldn't be from a foreign country, with certain influences.


#23, RE: Any two-bit criminal
Posted by f-e on Jun-20-03 at 10:36 AM
In response to message #21
>that had a history of breaking and entering, would have been
>able to enter the house without detection......someone prone
>to violence would have no problem with the brutal
>attack-----amateur when it came to kidnapping----they
>weren't successful, and botched it. Why would they play
>games, and not just come out with their motive in the ransom
>note, if it was an organized terrorist thing?
>
>That's not to say the perp couldn't be from a foreign
>country, with certain influences.

All two-bit criminals end up in jail and so far we have no info to ever conclude our Ramsey perp has even been arrested.

An explanation for perp writer downplaying intentions is simply not to bring the Ramseys focus away from getting their daughter back from intruder.

A stronger statement as to the BIGGER EVENT of Ramsey for Ramzi would have driven the Ramseys immediately to the Feds. The issue is time for the perp to escape into deep hiding before travel routes detection increases. The perp is very CAUTIOUS by nature to leave room and time so to prevent detection by Ramseys and the police.

The best example is the ransom note placement location, as well as , the basement window as entry and exit point for the intruder. Also again, the use of in house items for the crime is pure caution driven. Avoid detection!


#24, Terrorism is war & war is sex.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 10:46 AM
In response to message #23
War and sex are mutually aligned together by human natural responses from the stress. The stress drives intensified reproductive impulses well beyond normal sexual expressions of peace time relationships.

Stress level equals sex activity level or frustration of One's reproductive function by religous taboos leading to self shame or blame of Western moral corruption state as to cause. Or for many males, females are to blame for their sexual frustration.


#25, Ramsey issue as to violence and sex.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 11:22 AM
In response to message #24
The Ramsey issue is to the moment of violence upon JonBenet coupled with the perp's stress release by reproductive stimuli either being a surprise to perp or self desired pre-meditated conclusion for intense release.

In other words, was the Ramsey perp experienced in stress sex or was this the first time of perp's violent sex experience?


#26, Garotte capstan needed for control
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 12:45 PM
In response to message #25
The perp had either pre-entered Ramsey house to measure and calculate crime and obtain availible items to use in crime or items were in every household. But even without pre-entry, the perp was assured that a capstan device could be easily found in the Ramseys house in the kitchen drawers along with writng materials. The specific rope for bondage used was the only unknown item, all other items could have been expected to be found.

The issue of the capstan for greater control of force with the garotte brings one to consider: the garotte was to make the child unconscious, not dead. Dead as an intent needed no such tool to occur.


Unconscious was needed to remove a 45 lb. female child from house through a narrow prairie dog upward visually protected hole to the outside. A stun gun was a less sure for duration of exit but the stun gun was far quicker in all liklyhood for immediate short term unconsciousness at garotting I believe.

Very professional considerations seem to have gone into this crime.

A reasonable conclusion is that something went wrong in the limited strangulation for unconsciousness for transport. Did her heart stop beating? No pulse?


#27, No live child, No ransom event.
Posted by F-e on Jun-20-03 at 12:56 PM
In response to message #26
The issue of a BIG PICTURE Ramsey (Lockheed/Martin) for Ramzi (Muslim) ransom demand post 12-25 ended when the child died. No one was going to negotiate without proof of JBR being alive.

Especially the U.S. government!

The $118,000.00 and the $18,000 along with the 20's and 100's denominations are--slightly altered coded minipulations--of the future ransom demand for the release of Ramzi Yousef, not the meager money numbers. Muslim symbolisms!!!! Koran 18:1 The Cave, sleepers of the cave.

The seeking of release for a fellow Muslim sleeper held by the infidels is at the highest level of Muslim religious beliefs.


#28, Maryam Rajavi in Denver/Boulder?
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 12:34 PM
In response to message #27
With the large Iranian immigrant population in the Denver/Boulder area, it's without doubt Maryam Rajavi visited Colorado. The question here is if the Ramseys by themselves or through their business, Church or another route donated to the NCRI cause.

BBC.COM
"As the movement's figurehead, Mrs Rajavi made trips to Western cities in the mid-1990s to address Iranian exiles and canvas support."
(bbc.com world news) (search Maryam Rajavi or ncri)


#29, Foreign international intruque
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 01:19 PM
In response to message #28
The early to mid-nineties found Boulder/Denver awashed in "foreign factions" in direct conflicts with America's establishment. Also, many of these "foreign factions" bringing their own national conflicts to Denver/ Boulders communities to play out their foreign conflicts.

One such group was or still is one of the largest outside Los Angeles being the Muslim Iranians. Los Angeles hass the largest Iranian population outside Iran. The USA Iranians are for the most part past Sha of Iran supporters. These Iranians are and have been here plotting the overthrow of the unelected Mullahs in Iran today.

Other groups are Saudis, Iraqis, morrocans and etc. making Denver/Boulder a hot bed of 'foreign factions" for over two decades.

We also can see the intense Southern Christian Fundy movement with its' financial support of direct Muslim conflict especially in Africa. When we throw in the Fundy Christian support of Israel, then we have the fuel for the fire of conflict.

The question is: where do the Ramseys fit into all of this?

Foreign friends?
Amsterdam-Access Graphics.
Financial support of Fundy Christians. ( We know post 1996 support& association occured)
Finacial support private or business of Maryam Rajavi--NCRI? Iranian politics.


#30, Congressman Tancredo & other political
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 01:25 PM
In response to message #29
Did the Ramseys have any association to the election of Congressman Tancredo and any other Iranian group or Muslim versus Christian Crusaders and support of Israel?

Political and religious motives for a "foreign faction" attack for "the country that it serves".

Direct and literal questions to the Ramsey ransom note. Never answered! FBI failure.


#31, On 2nd thought...
Posted by Lilac on Jun-21-03 at 04:35 PM
In response to message #30
It seems like if this case involved a real "foreign faction" or whatever, they would have kidnapped John. What the hell was the point of murdering a little girl and then not even claiming credit to get your point across? Or do you think the point was made, but individuals who got the point are not saying?

#33, RE: On 2nd thought...
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 05:17 PM
In response to message #31
>It seems like if this case involved a real "foreign faction"
>or whatever, they would have kidnapped John. What the hell
>was the point of murdering a little girl and then not even
>claiming credit to get your point across? Or do you think
>the point was made, but individuals who got the point are
>not saying?

Lilac, if my presumed motive is correct, then JBR versus her father or another Ramsey even more accessable like John Andrew or even Patsy, all easy hits, correct, she was #1 for the BIG EVENT.

JonBenet Ramsey was a Christian STAR!!! A female child whose Golden Cross bled red down before our nations eyes to see...I don't have to prove her BIG stage appeal for her stage appeal was proven in her death. The nation, the world, they all turned eyes to see her face, her dance, her prescense on the little stage and all wondered of her person cast to be America's little lost one of beauty. O'not a queen of the Old World but an American child freely seeking childhood dreams along side a caring family's true encouragement be it either male of female.

The big event was in need of a beautiful star! JonBenet Ramsey...was chosen for her BIG star appeal fo an event of international dramatic implications. A war between the Western Nations new world ways and the Old World ways unwilling to die away peacefully. The Old World Dead One's took away a small light (jbr) of the Kingdom of Heaven by violence on earth.

The stage is America's media, the big event plan of Ramsey for Ramzi trade and the coded ransom note message to Muslims worldwide to arise against the Western nations!

Too, big for anyone? JBR was and still is BIG...She is America's star of Ol'Glorys unwavering American land of the Free and free from such violence future generations shall be, for ever and ever. The Old World Dead One's are near their extinction, for America has infected the human generation of generations to gain their own future freedom from the Old Dead Ones. God has Blessed America, now it is for American's to show forth Her fruitfulness for all of humanites greatest good.

The big show! JBR was chosen for by the Dead ones of violence, but God has chosen her to be a bright light for Justice and Freedom for all on earth. Thanks be to God...

May Peace be with the Ramseys, when they see their little Star shine brightly for all to see America's love of Her Nation's children. The BIG event is to occur, but not in the way of the Dead Ones. In the American way!!! Justice for all.


#32, Foreign Faction-Pedophile--Kidnapper
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 04:45 PM
In response to message #30
Are these suspect identifiers neccessarily separate as to who perp is?

The domestic Pedophile has produced no convictable suspect with any connection to Ramsey case in 6 1/2 years.

Is it time for a bigger picture look into international suspects? I have to wonder if the Boulder/Denver large foreign community was ever presented with a "foreign faction" suspect profile of clear identifiable evidence by possible perp social contacts in 1997. Someone out their may know of the suspects MO but for lack of clear identification from or of evidence and or a language barrier may have the answer to who dunit.

The Colorado State Police and FBI failured to publically present a "foreign faction" profile and evidence of MO an so is in my opinion the grandest of all failures by law enforcement.

They did not follow the evidence, but followed their biased theories! Why would this be?

In my opinion American law enforcement, especially the FBI, it has been reactionary to crime developments after the fact and their reaction is limited to the easy catches versus the more professional and so complicated crimes alike JBR's death need of investigation.

The FBI was limited in 1996 powers to investigate that today now has been greatly increased by Congress. Maybe now, the FBI and CIA can share some of the 1996 intelligence involving the "foreign factions" swirling around Boulder and Denver too the in and out of international destinations. As well as, the information from foreign governments of individuals particular MO's.


#34, BIG PLAYERS, BIG EVENTS, BIG STAGE
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 05:24 PM
In response to message #32
International
Ramsey for Ramzi
America's media


#35, No live child, No live event.
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 08:15 PM
In response to message #34
Imagine, a video with JBR pleading to be released, wanting her mommy and daddy, while a Muslim extremist dictates his demand for the release of Ramzi Yousef, only at this period before he is incarcerated in the Colorado SuperMax prison outside Denver/Boulder. A big event?

Imagine further, that once the ransom note is made public and it's recognized to be a Muslim terrorist kidnapping, that Muslims worldwide TUNE in to hear of the Korans religious responsibility to free their SLEEPERS captured by the infidels. Also, recognize the Muslim people reading the ransom note as Muslims and understanding the symbolisms and soon the coffee shops and Mosques are whispering the message understood by them.

When JBR died so died the event with her.


#36, Who's Ramzi? Where's he from?
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 09:26 PM
In response to message #35
A few exerpts from a by Ms. Mylroie. The first is the response to Ramzi extradiction from Pakistan.

In September 1995, the State Department forwarded to Congress the report of an independent panel, established to examine whether mistakes in security training had contributed to the March 8 assassination of two U.S. consular officials in Karachi--apparent retaliation for Ramzi Yousef's extradition. The report expressed concern about the FBI's lack of cooperation with the national security agencies. Clearly, discontent with the FBI is growing among those agencies as issues such as international crime--and with them the Bureau's international role--assume a mare prominent role in the post-Cold War world. Indeed, one State Department official described the FBI'S unwillingness to share information as "the train wreck coming"--meaning that given the FBI's lack of expertise in international politics, there may well come a time when the Bureau will be sitting on information that, in the hands of others, could have been used to avert a disaster.


http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm


Few Americans are aware of the true scale of the destructive ambition behind that bomb, this despite the fact that two years later, the key figure responsible for building it--a man who had entered the United Stares on an Iraqi passport under the name of Ramzi Yousef--was involved in another stupendous bombing conspiracy. In January 1995, Yousef and his associates plotted to blow up eleven U.S. commercial aircraft in one spectacular day of terrorist rage. The bombs were to be made of a liquid explosive designed to pass through airport metal detectors. But while mixing his chemical brew in a Manila apartment, Yousef started a fire. He was forced to flee, leaving behind a computer that contained the information that led to his arrest a month later in Pakistan. Among the items found in his possession was a letter threatening Filipino interests if a comrade held in custody were not released. It claimed the "ability to make and use chemicals and poisonous gas... for use against vital institutions and residential populations and the sources of drinking water." <1> Quickly extradited, he is now in U.S. custody awaiting trial this spring.

Since Yousef's arrest and extradition to the United States, the evidence for this explanation has, if anything, grown stronger. First of all, he is clearly no fundamentalist. According to neighbors, he had a Filipina girlfriend and enjoyed Manila's raucous night life.<11> Yousef's nationality and ethnicity have also become known: He is a Pakistani Baluch.

The Baluch are a distinct ethnic group, speaking their own language, one of several Middle Eastern peoples without their own homeland. They live in eastern Iran and western Pakistan in inhospitable desert terrain over which neither Tehran nor Islamabad exercises much control. Baluchistan is a haven for smuggling, both of drugs and of arms. The Baluch are Sunni and are at sharp odds with Tehran's Shia clerical regime. Through Iraq's many years of conflict with Iran, first in the early 1970s and then during the Iran-Iraq war a decade later, Iraqi intelligence developed close ties with the Baluch on both sides of the Iranian-Pakistani border. Above all, it used them to carry out terrorism against Iran.

Yousef's associates in Pakistan, too, were anti-Shia. This fact, taken together with his Baluch ethnicity, make it nearly impossible that Iran could be behind Yousef. The most recent inquiries, made since Yousef's arrest, have reduced the question to two possibilities: He is a free-lancer connected to a loose network of fundamentalists; or he worked for Iraq. <12>

Laurie Mylroie, formerly of Harvard University and the U.S. Naval War College. is currently with the Foreign Policy Research Institute of Philadelphia. She was co-author of the bestseller, Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf (Random House 1990), and has just completed a sequel, 'Study of Revenge': Saddam's Terror Against America, January 1993-??


#37, Why JOHN, Why JBR.
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 09:46 PM
In response to message #36
Why John Ramsey?
Lockheed Martin--CIA--FBI--USA Government.

Why JonBenet?
Star quality with pictures and videos to be BIG media event. The perp wants the BIG media greatest of all times to call Muslims to Holy Jihad by the stand-off between perp and the highest levels of U.S. gov.

The final decision was the very easy Boulder scene and the Ramsey house poor security. What Americans fail to realize is the Muslim Koran's call to WARN--a cities people of comfort, the rich.

First, one must understand that all rich in American cities are on a Muslim list! Muslim information gathering on America's wealthy citizens is complete.


#38, 03-08-95 to 12-25-96
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 09:56 PM
In response to message #37
The first date is the asassinations to the two U.S. citizens in Pakistan because of Ramzi extradition to the USA.

Is 22 months long enough to plot a kidnapping in Boulder, Colorado of a Lockheed Martin executive?

Can "foreign factions" enter our Nation and commit horrible crimes?

Is it logical to think that JBR's death ended the BIG event of Ramzi for Ramsey in 1996-1997?

Do you think the FBI investigated JBR's death as a Ramzi for Ramsey botched kidnapping?


#39, Threatening letter.
Posted by F-e on Jun-21-03 at 09:59 PM
In response to message #38
Among the items found in his possession was a letter threatening Filipino interests if a comrade held in custody were not released.

Threats!!!! "she dies" (rn)