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Reviving an archived thread - yes, there is a reason - this is a public forum and a public notice is being reposted for legal reasons.jameson
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13321 posts
Jan-13-03, 01:08 PM (EST)
"To Sara King and her publishers"
It has come to my attention that you plan to publish a book and that said book will contain information
concerning me. As you know, I have not been contacted by anyone related to the publication of the
book to check for the accuracy of any factual statements about me.
I have informed my attorney about the possibility of this book being published and I have authorized
that attorney to protect my interests in this matter. I would welcome the opportunity to comment
upon any such statements of or concerning me in the upcoming publication.
This is a legal notice - published on a public forum because I don't know how to contact "Sara King"
who has chosen not to make her true identity public.
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Fencesitter
unregistered user
Jan-13-03, 01:16 PM (EST)
1. "Jameson"
In response to message #0
If Sara King is going to publish a chapter in her book about you - how does that differ from you
publishing threads on your website about her?
Did you endeavour to consult with her prior to you starting your 'Rita Pondscum' threads. You have
written a lot of things about a lot of people in your capacity of 'journalist'.
What's good for the goose ...
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Rapunzel676
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Jan-13-03, 01:20 PM (EST)
2. "RE: Jameson"
In response to message #1
Is this person a poster on this board?
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Ruby
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Jan-13-03, 01:24 PM (EST)
3. "RE: Jameson"
In response to message #2
Since when does everyone who is mentioned in a book have to be contacted for accuracy? Very few
books would ever get published if this was the case.
All the recent books about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. Do you think they contacted him?
Sure sounds like you are spinning your wheels.
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Rapunzel676
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Jan-13-03, 01:34 PM (EST)
4. "RE: Jameson"
In response to message #3
Libel:
"Published material meeting three conditions: the material is defamatory either on its face or indirectly;
the defamatory statement is about someone who is identifiable to one or more persons; and the
material must be distributed to someone other than the offended party; i.e. published; distinguished
from slander."
Defenses to Libel:
1. Truth. Truth is the best defense (as well as being the basis for good, careful reporting and editing).
Truth, however, is often difficult to prove in court.
2. Common law privilege. The news media are conditionally privileged to report most governmental
events without fear of libel, so long as the reports are full, fair and accurate. Thus, for example,
reporting the actions and statements of legislators, judicial personnel, or other public officials and
executives while performing their official duties usually is privileged. Pulliam v. Bond, 406 S.W.2d 635
(Mo. 1966). The same privilege attaches to reports of information contained in pleadings and other
court-filed documents, so long as the reports are full, fair and accurate.
3. Statutory privileges. Section 537.105, RSMo 1994, protects the republication of any statement
broadcast over television and radio airwaves by or on behalf of any candidate for public office, so long
as the statement is not subject to censorship or control by reason of statutes, rulings or order of the
Federal Communications Commission or other federal authority.
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jameson
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13321 posts
Jan-13-03, 01:35 PM (EST)
5. "response"
In response to message #1
The law is the law - and I intend to take advantage of it in this case.
When Brill's Content did their article - and when the Ramseys did their book, I was contacted by "fact
checkers" to verify they had it right. That is considered the proper thing to do.
Schiller got a few things wrong but I can't say I blame him as he did try to get the full story from me
and at the time I was under a confidentiality agreement and unable to talk.
Thomas wasn't wrong - he wasn't happy with me but he got it right - - Foster was discredited
because of his early work on Ramsey - and I was part of it. He called me an Internet Junkie - - I would
be hardpressed to disprove THAT!
Foster called me a "code 6 wingnut" - I can live with that too. He was admitting his mistake and the
personal jab at me was considered by me to be his way of sticking out his tongue - - no big deal.
There are a couple posters I guess I could have sued - Ruthee, Misty and her friend Delmar - - but I
chose not to bother. Just figured it wasn't worth it - - anyone paying attention could see they were
wrong. And if they didn't so what?
But this book, the veiled threats, the timing, the fact that a publisher with deep pockets might be
involved --- well, you ever hear that you should choose the battles you join in? This one might be it.
I am protecting my rights, playing by the rules here. Sara King knows what happens on the forums -
her publisher needs to be paying attention. If they quote me or libel me, they may find themselves in
court.
Having said all that, I really don't think there is any book - - I think this is a hoax. Publishers are not
interested in Ramsey books right now. People who were involved in this case from the start can't seem
to find publishers (Miller and Phillips, Shapiro, LHP and others).
But it isn't going to hurt to put out the statement, just in case.
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Margoo
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Jan-13-03, 02:39 PM (EST)
7. "RE: response"
In response to message #6
Moses may be entertained by your actions, but I think you are wise to post notice.
I recall a poster who claimed she was in regular communication with Sara King about this book and I've
had my doubts about it as well. But, just in case there is a book, I think you are doing the right thing.
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Rapunzel676
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Jan-13-03, 03:19 PM (EST)
9. "RE: response"
In response to message #7
Who is this Sara King person anyway and what's her connection to the case?
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 03:24 PM (EST)
10. "Jameson"
In response to message #7
Sara King does not read your forum. You can reach Sara very easily by writing to sking@justice.com.
If the email bounces back, just say that it bounced back, but I will ask her now to make sure it is clear
so your warnings can get through. Meanwhile, I will email her this URL so she can know of your
concern.
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 03:34 PM (EST)
12. "RE: Jameson"
In response to message #10
By the way....
"well, you ever hear that you should choose the battles you join in?"
I believe the saying is that you should choose the battles you know you can win.
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Snort
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Jan-13-03, 03:31 PM (EST)
11. "RE: To Sara King and her publishers"
In response to message #0
Jameson, buy your attorney a copy of the book and let him see if you have any interests to protect.
Not likely LOL
What is proper and nice with "fact checkers" isn't a legality. No one has to consult you in order to
write about you. If what is written is untrue, you can sue. Udderwise-->tough titty.
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woodstock
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Jan-13-03, 03:39 PM (EST)
13. "RE: To Sara King and her publishers"
In response to message #11
Anybody know the name of the book. I sure would like to read it when it gets published.
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 03:46 PM (EST)
14. "The book title..."
In response to message #13
The title of the book is:
"Whatever Happened to Baby JonBenet"
subtitled:
"At the Evil Mansion on 15th Street"
You should be able to find it at Amazon and Barnes and Noble in the last days of this month.
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Margoo
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Jan-13-03, 04:00 PM (EST)
15. "RE: The book title..."
In response to message #14
Rose, is this book fiction or "fact"?
In case you are not here at the end of the month, you have provided the Title of the book, but not
the author. Are we to assume the author identity will be Sara King?
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Rapunzel676
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Jan-13-03, 04:06 PM (EST)
16. "RE: The book title..."
In response to message #15
Found a web site with the same title that says JB was in NYC on September 11, 2001, and connects
the murder to terrorism. LOL!
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Fencesitter
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Jan-13-03, 04:13 PM (EST)
17. "Rapunzel"
In response to message #16
http://www.geocities.com/phimberlake/jonbenet.html
This website was discussed a while back. It's a hoax or a spoof. Not related to either Sara King or her
book as far as I recall.
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Rapunzel676
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Jan-13-03, 04:17 PM (EST)
18. "RE: Rapunzel"
In response to message #17
I haven't been on for long. Sorry.
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 04:41 PM (EST)
19. "Margoo"
In response to message #18
Rose, is this book fiction or "fact"?
**The book will be based on facts. Facts that Sara King has herself either eye witnessed or obtained
in interviews, along with working closely with key players and LE. The book will be a little on the
author, a little on the internet subculture, and also about a likening to a court room type scenario that
will most likely never be in real life, in which the readers can become the actual jury and vote. The
trial type thing will be based on the facts we know, and maybe some we don't, I am not sure of all of
the writings and information in that area.
In case you are not here at the end of the month, you have provided the Title of the book, but not
the author. Are we to assume the author identity will be Sara King?
**No. The author of the book will be under her real name. The aka/Sara King was only an internet
name used by the author about 2 years ago. I am not allowed to reveal the real name. The publisher is
not wanting that be done of the author just yet, but that will be known soon. I have no intention of
going anywhere until the book and all its surrounding hoopla has died down. (I post and read several
other forums). Then I will be making my exit from all JBR forums. My sentence is up...LOL...and that is
how I look at it. It will be a good time to move on. I will be only a reader, in hopes of seeing someday
a confession come to light, or some other breaking news, but I am tired of beating dead horses, so to
speak. My posts, however, whether or not they are allowed to remain here, is another story. I have
had several deleted in the past several weeks and am quite surprised to see these staying up for so
long. But, I will always be as truthful and as civil as possible, and I hope you remember that.
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Sam
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1687 posts
Jan-13-03, 04:44 PM (EST)
20. "RE: Rose"
In response to message #19
Well damn Rose is old Sam the super cop going to be in that there book.
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 04:45 PM (EST)
22. "Rapunzul, and Fencesitter"
In response to message #19
You will find no websites, neither under the hat of Sara King, nor the authors real name, in regards to
this book. Everything else you find is pertaining to another book, forum, or person, but not of this
author or book. Keep checking Amazon or Barnes. Most likely the last few days of this month you will
see it, give or take a few days.
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Guppy
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Jan-13-03, 04:45 PM (EST)
21. "Rose"
In response to message #18
> "Whatever Happened to Baby JonBenet"
subtitled:
"At the Evil Mansion on 15th Street"
What an awful title! Sounds like the sequel to "JonBenet Knows Evil Love", which I've never been
tempted to purchase because it has never shown up at any book store in Dallas. Hopefully this book
will be MIA as well, but if I see it, I'll buy it. I just can't help myself.
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Guppy/Sam
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Jan-13-03, 04:49 PM (EST)
23. "RE: Rose"
In response to message #21
I agree. The title sucks. However, it does kind of coincide with the front page and some of the
immediate excerpts, but I still hate the title. All I can see is freakin' Bette Davis! LOL....
Sam:
"Well damn Rose is old Sam the super cop going to be in that there book".
Maybe! LOL....I don't know how many internet people may be quoted. I know I am in the book, but I
don't know how many others are mentioned. If you are a cop, or in the LE, or a key player, then you
already should know that answer better than I! LOL....
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KitKat
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Jan-13-03, 05:12 PM (EST)
24. "Rose"
In response to message #23
Didn't you ask 'Sara King' if she called people involved with the case using the name Rita?
If so, didn't she deny doing that? I thought you said she did,,,, but I don't quite believe her.
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Rose
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Jan-13-03, 05:29 PM (EST)
25. "KitKat"
In response to message #24
Didn't you ask 'Sara King' if she called people involved with the case using the name Rita?
If so, didn't she deny doing that? I thought you said she did,,,, but I don't quite believe her.
** Sorry, I am not aware of me asking any such thing about her calling people using the name of Rita.
She did deny being Rita Pondscum though, if that is what you are referring to. I know that was
brought up a long time ago as well as recently as to Rita Pondscum. However, guessing won't really
help, I'm afraid. Even if someone had nailed her name, I am not, nor is she, allowed to reveal that
under any circumstances until the publisher wants it revealed, as well as for some other reasons I
cannot presently disclose. Sorry.
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Fencesitter
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Jan-13-03, 05:32 PM (EST)
26. "Suing Sara King - Jameson"
In response to message #24
I'm curious to know why Jameson feels that she may have grounds to sue Sara King.
Is it just because you think Sara is going to mention you in her book? What if she writes that you have
done a sterling job of keeping the case in the public eye? Will you still sue her for mentioning you?
If she quotes you - is that sue-worthy? Surely not. The Ramseys quoted Jameson in their book. I'm
not sure it's against the law to quote someone from an Internet discussion forum if it is pertinent to a
topic.
If Sara published a dialogue between you and her - would that be illegal?
I don't get the impression that Sara's book is 'about' Jameson. I think you may be over-reacting.
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Sam
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Jan-13-03, 05:49 PM (EST)
27. "RE: Suing Sara King - Jameson"
In response to message #26
I'm not sure if I'm a real cop are not, certainly not in Boulder.
Butts I did stay in a Holiday Inn express last night LOL.
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Rose
unregistered user
Jan-13-03, 06:50 PM (EST)
28. "Jameson"
In response to message #27
Sara, through the URL here, has now read your warnings and concerns. However, if you care to make
it a bit more official, you can always email her. I am sure she would love to hear from you, no matter
in which content.
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jameson
Charter Member
13321 posts
Jan-13-03, 06:58 PM (EST)
29. "RE: Jameson"
In response to message #28
I sent the identical message to her in email and will archive this thread as I really don't think the
subject worthy of our attention. She isn't part of the case as far as I can tell, just a nasty gossip who
came in after. I don't want to give her any more attention. (Especially since I don't think there really is
a publisher willing to take on that project now.)