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#0, Boulder gets tasers
Posted by jameson on Apr-19-02 at 11:34 AM
Taser strategy: Zap, crackle,<BR> stop<P> Boulder police demonstrate new<BR> 'pain compliance' weapon<P> By Owen S. Good, News Staff Writer<BR> April 19, 2002<P> BOULDER -- You name it and, with the<BR> exception of bullets, it's been fired on<BR> Detective Barry Hartkopp. Pepper spray.<BR> Pepper balls. Beanbags fired from a<BR> shotgun. All in the name of training. <P> "I thought I could take five seconds of<BR> any pain," Hartkopp said Thursday as<BR> he held two wire filaments, each about<BR> the thickness of a hair. "They hooked it<BR> to my foot and my pocket. Within a<BR> second I was yelling for them to stop." <P> Hartkopp was recounting the effects of the M-26 Advanced Taser,<BR> eight of which entered service in the Boulder Police Department's<BR> arsenal last week. <P> It's a loud, startling device, and can drop muscle-bound<BR> belligerents to the ground in an instant. So police gave a<BR> demonstration to reporters Thursday in hopes of easing any<BR> concerns before a Taser is seen in action. Further, the weapon will<BR> be fired only after appropriate warnings, per a department policy<BR> rewritten to accommodate it. <P> When fired, nitrogen-gas charges deploy two filaments attached<BR> to 1/4-inch barbed hooks, which imbed in clothing or skin. The<BR> wires lead back to the Taser, which supplies a 50,000-volt charge,<BR> enough to get through heavy layers of clothing. The charge lasts<BR> for five seconds and makes a loud crackling noise. The weapon is<BR> effective at a range of up to 21 feet. <P> The device is used in what's called a "pain compliance" role. In<BR> this case, the threat of pain may be enough to achieve<BR> compliance. <P> "If I heard someone say, 'I'm going to shoot 50,000 volts through<BR> you,' that'd scare me," said Detective Jeff Kessler, who also is<BR> trained to use the Taser. <P> Police insist the only danger of injury comes from the fall someone<BR> takes after getting zapped. Pacemakers are not interrupted,<BR> clothing does not catch fire and water does not compound the<BR> effects. The hooks leave "bee sting" welts if they embed in the<BR> skin, Hartkopp said. And police procedure requires that anyone<BR> subjected to the Taser be taken to a hospital afterward. <P> Pepper spray, Kessler said, is less effective because enraged<BR> people can sometimes fight through its effects; they're also<BR> focused on the pain, which can last for 30 minutes, and not<BR> officers' orders. Hartkopp said most of the pain caused by the<BR> Taser stops after the charge. <P> The Taser will not be used on protesters or those engaged in civil<BR> disobedience, Hartkopp said. Nor is it an effective weapon for<BR> riots. The spectacle of a Taser encounter tends to enrage<BR> onlookers in that situation, he said. <P> Thirty officers are trained in its use. The department spent $7,375<BR> to acquire the weapons and cartridges. <P><a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0";>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0<;/a>,1299,DRMN_15_1097113,00.html <P><b>Now, take a 6 year old sleeping child, push her face into the bed or put a pillow over her face and zap her - - she will not be struggling a lot.<P>The BPD can't honestly ignore those marks.

#1, a new photo
Posted by jameson on Apr-18-02 at 03:32 PM
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new to most, I think...<P><img src="http://www.jameson245.com/jonburke.jpg";>

#2, The parents
Posted by jameson on Apr-18-02 at 03:36 PM
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This is the John and Patsy I know. Very much a couple - very normal people, suffering a great loss - - and getting through it together.<P><img src="http://www.jameson245.com/j_p.jpg";>

#3, my favorite picture
Posted by Summer on Apr-18-02 at 04:28 PM
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is the picture on the right of my website i forgot how to post the picture.Anyone care to post it?<P>This picture is great because JonBenet is such a doll, and this picture shows her at school, with her friends, having fun.<P>This picture is such acute pictre, I love it!

#4, you just put
Posted by Joyce on Apr-19-02 at 08:11 AM
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the URL here no doubt and it will load. If you dont know how to do that just go to the page the picture is on and copy the URL from the Address line and paste it in here. I WOULD say to right click on the picture and select "copy shortcut" but some servers won't let you link directly to a picture so I am telling you something that should work. I say SHOULD. I have not got it to work but I may have done it wrong as I tried to link to a picture, not to a page.

#6, I tried to link
Posted by jameson on Apr-19-02 at 10:10 AM
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<center><font size="1" color="#ff0000">LAST EDITED ON Apr-19-02 AT 10:21 AM (EST)</font></center><p>I think this is your favorite<P><img src="http://www.jameson245.com/jbrnice.jpg";> <P><P><BR>Here is another nice one<BR> <img src="http://www.jameson245.com/jbrsweet.jpg";>

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#0, Boulder gets tasers
Posted by jameson on Apr-19-02 at 11:34 AM
Taser strategy: Zap, crackle,<BR> stop<P> Boulder police demonstrate new<BR> 'pain compliance' weapon<P> By Owen S. Good, News Staff Writer<BR> April 19, 2002<P> BOULDER -- You name it and, with the<BR> exception of bullets, it's been fired on<BR> Detective Barry Hartkopp. Pepper spray.<BR> Pepper balls. Beanbags fired from a<BR> shotgun. All in the name of training. <P> "I thought I could take five seconds of<BR> any pain," Hartkopp said Thursday as<BR> he held two wire filaments, each about<BR> the thickness of a hair. "They hooked it<BR> to my foot and my pocket. Within a<BR> second I was yelling for them to stop." <P> Hartkopp was recounting the effects of the M-26 Advanced Taser,<BR> eight of which entered service in the Boulder Police Department's<BR> arsenal last week. <P> It's a loud, startling device, and can drop muscle-bound<BR> belligerents to the ground in an instant. So police gave a<BR> demonstration to reporters Thursday in hopes of easing any<BR> concerns before a Taser is seen in action. Further, the weapon will<BR> be fired only after appropriate warnings, per a department policy<BR> rewritten to accommodate it. <P> When fired, nitrogen-gas charges deploy two filaments attached<BR> to 1/4-inch barbed hooks, which imbed in clothing or skin. The<BR> wires lead back to the Taser, which supplies a 50,000-volt charge,<BR> enough to get through heavy layers of clothing. The charge lasts<BR> for five seconds and makes a loud crackling noise. The weapon is<BR> effective at a range of up to 21 feet. <P> The device is used in what's called a "pain compliance" role. In<BR> this case, the threat of pain may be enough to achieve<BR> compliance. <P> "If I heard someone say, 'I'm going to shoot 50,000 volts through<BR> you,' that'd scare me," said Detective Jeff Kessler, who also is<BR> trained to use the Taser. <P> Police insist the only danger of injury comes from the fall someone<BR> takes after getting zapped. Pacemakers are not interrupted,<BR> clothing does not catch fire and water does not compound the<BR> effects. The hooks leave "bee sting" welts if they embed in the<BR> skin, Hartkopp said. And police procedure requires that anyone<BR> subjected to the Taser be taken to a hospital afterward. <P> Pepper spray, Kessler said, is less effective because enraged<BR> people can sometimes fight through its effects; they're also<BR> focused on the pain, which can last for 30 minutes, and not<BR> officers' orders. Hartkopp said most of the pain caused by the<BR> Taser stops after the charge. <P> The Taser will not be used on protesters or those engaged in civil<BR> disobedience, Hartkopp said. Nor is it an effective weapon for<BR> riots. The spectacle of a Taser encounter tends to enrage<BR> onlookers in that situation, he said. <P> Thirty officers are trained in its use. The department spent $7,375<BR> to acquire the weapons and cartridges. <P><a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0";>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0<;/a>,1299,DRMN_15_1097113,00.html <P><b>Now, take a 6 year old sleeping child, push her face into the bed or put a pillow over her face and zap her - - she will not be struggling a lot.<P>The BPD can't honestly ignore those marks.

#er that year, the note was leaked to Vanity Fair
and Newsweek, and from there it went straight onto the Internet and out into
the world. Instead, Lewis was dragged through Jeffco's legal system for
almost two years before he took a deal: He'd admit to "ethical wrongdoing"
and the Globe would donate $100,000 to the University of Colorado School
of Journalism, which would use it to pay for an undergraduate ethics class.
(The money would have been better spent cleaning up CU's own
open-records problem, including a still-closed fifty-year-old file listing
suspected communist sympathizers at the university.) Miller kept fighting --
and finally, in June 2001, a Jeffco jury took all of an hour to acquit him. (His
lawyer was Gary Lozow, who's currently representing the Klebolds.)

Despite its loss in court, Jeffco's not about to let all that legal research go to
waste. And should one of those pesky tabloids convince some employee --
of a copy shop, a photo lab, the sheriff's office -- to sell the very documents
that are now leaking out of the county for free, Jeffco will be ready.

Even if it wasn't on April 20, 1999.

http://www.westword.com/issues/2002-03-28/calhoun.html/1/index.html,
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