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Forum Name: old depo and interview threads
Topic ID: 78
Message ID: 2
#2, RE: John in Atlanta 4
Posted by jameson on Nov-02-03 at 06:08 PM
In response to message #1
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16 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mr. Ramsey, one of
17 the things that you were asked about during
18 your interview in 1998 I would like to
19 follow up on is some new information, are
20 some questions about a Santa Bear that was
21 found on your daughter's bed. Do you
22 remember that?
23 A. Uh-huh (affirmative).
24 Q. Do you remember the bear?
25 A. (Witness nodded head

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1 affirmatively).
2 Q. At the time you were interviewed,
3 you stated to the effect that you did not
4 recognize it?
5 A. Correct.
6 Q. And I am wondering, we have
7 identified the source, we know how it got to
8 JonBenet through a pageant on December 14.
9 MR. WOOD: Well, you say that,
10 but we're not -- we haven't seen the
11 photographs or video.
12 MR. LEVIN: I understand that.
13 Q. (By Mr. Levin) It is our belief.
14 Are you comfortable with that
15 phrasing?
16 MR. WOOD: I would be more
17 comfortable if you are going to question him
18 about something that you give him the right
19 to look at it yourself, but, you know, since
20 you, for whatever reason, choose not to do
21 so, I accept you state that is your belief.
22 Q. (By Mr. Levin) It is my belief,
23 Mr. Ramsey, that she received that as a
24 prize in a pageant on December 14, 1996.
25 And I am wondering if, do you recall being,

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1 first of all, were you at her last pageant
2 in December? Do you remember?
3 A. I got there late. I usually
4 would try to go for the talent portion. And
5 they were running early. I was late. I
6 got there after it was over. So I was
7 there, but not for very long.
8 Q. And the follow-up question to that
9 would be, if my belief is correct that you
10 received that bear at that pageant, does that
11 maybe jog your memory as to the origin of
12 it?
13 A. No.
14 MR. WOOD: I don't think you
15 meant to say that he received it.
16 THE WITNESS: We have no idea
17 whether that was significant or not, that
18 bear. I mean, you know, it was, when I was
19 shown those photos, we were looking for
20 anything that looked out of the ordinary.
21 I mean, we had fully expected
22 that, if someone had given it to her, that
23 they would come forward and say, oh, yes, I
24 gave that to JonBenet. That explains that.
25 Q. (By Mr. Levin) And you understand

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1 of course, that anything you found
2 significant or out of the ordinary became
3 significant to us, obviously?
4 A. That's right. Yeah.
5 MR. WOOD: You did misspeak, just
6 for the record. You meant to say JonBenet
7 received it, not that John received it.
8 MR. LEVIN: That's correct. I
9 don't think John won a Little Miss Christmas
10 pageant.
11 THE WITNESS: I don't remember
12 that.
13 MR. WOOD: No, and it's
14 unfortunate what you asked him in the
15 question says that he did.


The fact is that the bear WAS given to JonBenét at that pageant. The woman who put together that pageant remembered buying that bear and giving it to Jonbenét and she came forward with that information. A video proved she was right.

The woman spoke to me directly and told me the kids all got a ton of loot when they entered the pageants - she was not at all surprised that the Ramseys wouldn't have remembered that bear months after the murder when they were finally shown the crime scene photos.

But here we were in 2000 - and rather than simply tell the Ramseys that the bear was no longer a mystery, they handled it in this- - - well, adversarial manner - - that's how I would describe it.

Is there any wonder the Ramseys had a hard time trusting these people? It didn't improve my view of cops - I can tell you that.

the Ramseys were fortunate to have Lin there - he had a monitor in the room and was watching the transcript as it was typed - - it allowed him to pick up on a lot of details before they got lost. Glad he spoke up so many times.