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1 point you might have asked Susan. Are you
2 talking about Susan Stein?
3 A. Uh-huh (affirmative).
4 Q. You said you might have asked
5 her. Do you have any recollection of asking
6 her about Hi-Tec? Is there anything that
7 makes you think that you might have asked
8 that? What made you --
9 A. Well, we just spent quite a lot
10 of time together, and she is very interested
11 in the case. And we kind of hung around
12 the same people.
13 Q. Uh-huh (affirmative).
14 A. And I could have asked her, you
15 know, do you know anybody with Hi-Tec boots
16 or something.
17 Q. But you don't have any specific
18 recollection of that?
19 A. I don't specifically remember
20 saying that.
21 Q. Okay. Is this the first time
22 that you've heard that Burke says that he
23 had Hi-Tec?
24 A. Yes, it is.
25 Q. This is the very first time?

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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. When you said in your book and
3 then you said at other times too that you
4 didn't own either brand --
5 MR. WOOD: Hold on. If you have
6 got a reference of the book.
7 MR. KANE: I'm sorry. Page 232.
8 MR. WOOD: And then you said at
9 other times, too. Be more specific to it.
10 MR. KANE: Okay. Well, I will
11 stick to the book.
12 Q. (By Mr. Kane) But I don't think
13 it is any big
14 secret that you've said that a bunch of
15 times.
16 A. I don't remember --
17 MR. WOOD: Okay. What is the
18 question?
19 Q. (By Mr. Kane) When you made that
20 statement in your book -- I mean, maybe I
21 ought to authenticate. You wrote this book,
22 is that -
23 A. Sure.
24 MR. WOOD: We are not asking you
25 to authenticate it. We are just asking you

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1 to refer us to the page.
2 Q. (By Mr. Kane) Okay. Well, I
3 just want to make it clear that this wasn't
4 written by somebody else or a ghost writer
5 or something like that.
6 MR. WOOD: I think they had some
7 help, but I don't think it was like Mr.
8 Davis who wrote Mr. Thomas's book.
9 THE WITNESS: I think we were
10 referring that John or I didn't, did not
11 ever have -- were not in possession of --
12 Q. (By Mr. Kane) So when you said
13 we, you were referring to John or you?
14 A. Yes. It never occurred to me
15 about Burke's shoes.
16 MR. WOOD: You are assuming,
17 number one, Burke said it. You said, and I
18 accept your representation in terms of what
19 is clear in terms of when, but the question
20 obviously still remains whether Burke is
21 accurate or not. But be that as it may,
22 next question.
23 Q. (By Mr. Kane) But I mean, but
24 my question was, when you said we, you were
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1 A. Well, what is the, what size
2 print is the Hi-Tec? Is it a child's or is
3 it an adult's?
4 Q. I don't think there is any
5 difference between the two. And I think
6 that has been pretty well publicized too.
7 MR. WOOD: Well, you all can
8 debate that another day, if necessary.
9 MR. KANE: Yeah, I mean. That
10 is obvious, yes.
11 MR. WOOD: The point is, it would
12 probably be of some consequence to know the
13 context of what Burke said, at age, at age,
14 at age what?
15 THE WITNESS: Nine.
16 MR. KANE: Nine.
17 MR. WOOD: No, he didn't say it
18 at age nine.
19 THE WITNESS: Eight.
20 MR. WOOD: You are telling me he
21 said it sometime late fall of 1999, and I
22 think his age would have been closer in the
23 neighborhood of 12.
24 MR. LEVIN: I think 11 going on
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1 MR. WOOD: No, I think he turned
2 13 January of 2000. So he was 12, and it
3 was some three years after the murder of his
4 sister, if that is when he first said it.
5 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Pardon me. We
6 need to make a tape change.

The kid was in a closed room trying to cooperate - years had passed ...

Hello, I can't tell you what shoes I wore to Boulder three years ago - not the color or brand name.... I remember a certain sweater....

Since 2000, we have heard from BORG that the boot prints were matched to Burke's boots. That is total bullshit - - not only did they never find any boots belonging to Burke to compare - they never found any evidence that Burke owned them - - and the statement here isn't impressing me - I think he meant "high tech", not "Hi-Tec".