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16 MR. LEVIN: This is the bottom
17 line. The bottom line is, for whatever
18 reason, we have made a decision that we no
19 longer wish to ask questions of your client,
20 Mrs. Ramsey. We are asking you if we may
21 begin to ask questions of John Ramsey,
22 regardless of whatever is going on in your
23 mind -- and no one is accusing you of any
24 misconduct or ill purpose in any way, shape,
25 or form -- all we are saying is we would

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1 like to begin questioning John. And we can
2 do --
3 MR. WOOD: And I would like you
4 to finish with Patsy.
5 MR. LEVIN: I understand that.
6 We are finished with Patsy for whatever
7 reason, and we stated what we believe is our
8 reasons. We will not state any more. We
9 would like to start questioning John --
10 MR. WOOD: It is 4:15.
11 MR. LEVIN: -- if we can do
12 that, we will do that.
13 MR. WOOD: It is 4:15. I am
14 tired. I spent more time talking today than
15 I thought I would have to. Why don't we
16 come back at 9:00 and get John in the
17 morning if that works. I mean, that seems
18 to me reasonable.
19 MR. KANE: It is a quarter to,
20 we've taken a break every hour. We have
21 taken an hour and a half.
22 MR. WOOD: I am going to talk to
23 John and Patsy and make a decision whether
24 or not, when you come in here and you create
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1 somehow justify --
2 MR. KANE: Okay. Go ahead. Go
3 ahead, Lin.
4 MR. LEVIN: Would you give us a
5 couple of minutes to collectively discuss
6 your timing proposal, please, sir?
7 MR. WOOD: Okay. Let me have a
8 couple of minutes while you are doing that
9 to make sure because I have spoken without
10 talking to John and Patsy.
11 MR. LEVIN: We understand.
12 MR. WOOD: Let me finish this by
13 saying something to you, Michael. I don't
14 know your background, but we are all trying
15 to do our jobs, and I am not going to laugh
16 at you. If you want to laugh when I say
17 something, that is your prerogative. I just
18 don't think that's productive because I
19 think, of all the people, of all the
20 people --
21 MR. KANE: You are doing your
22 job.
23 MR. WOOD: -- who get involved,
24 well I -- doing my job is not to laugh at
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1 But I think that, of all of the
2 people who have been involved with this, that
3 I have tried more, whether you think I have
4 done everything that you wanted me to do, I
5 think I have been on the phone and I have
6 made a greater effort to try to get your
7 side and my side together than anybody else.
8 That doesn't fault anyone else
9 involved. They made very good decisions in
10 my judgment for their reasons. I don't
11 criticize any other lawyer in this case. I
12 only speak for myself. And I think that I
13 have tried to be extremely reasonable. And
14 I didn't physically block the door for John
15 and Patsy to come in here. I didn't feel
16 good about it. You know that one of the
17 reasons that I didn't feel good about it was
18 because you were going to be involved.
19 I went to the Chief after your
20 letters and our discussions and I said I
21 have some real concerns about Michael Kane's
22 objectivity, and I think it might be better
23 if he were not involved, and I was told that
24 your involvement would be a deal breaker.
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1 wanted to talk to John and Patsy.
2 And I've got to tell you, with
3 all due respect again -- I hate to use that
4 phrase because usually you figure something
5 bad is coming, and it usually does -- I
6 think you came here on a self-fulfilling
7 prophecy. I think you came in here ready to
8 jump on me the minute I opened my mouth.
9 If I made a request, it was going to be
10 called a condition. If I asked a question,
11 it would be deemed an objection. You kept
12 trying to get me to say that I was
13 instructing Patsy not to answer, and I don't
14 think that is what I have done.
15 I'll tell you this, if I did it,
16 boy, I am going to be unhappy with myself
17 because I sure didn't mean to do it. I
18 wanted to facilitate your getting these
19 questions answered. I still would like to
20 do that. You haven't gotten on the plane to
21 go back yet. I think it is still serves a
22 purpose to try to sit here and answer some
23 questions.
24 So you all talk about timing, let
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1 there is any place to go. I hope there is.
2 I hope we can still go forward and be
3 productive. Okay?
4 (WHEREUPON, a brief recess was
5 taken.)

Lin identified Kane as a problem before the interview - asked to do it without Kane - there was no compromise, Kane would be there or no interview (kind of tells you how badly LE wanted this talk - - very interesting.)

Well, Kane is there, they got it their way - and look at what is happening - - Kane is the focus of much of this time - - I wonder if they remember JonBenét at all when they are going at it like this.

Her killer had nothing to fear then. I hope he understands things are different - K&C are gone - - now it is Tom Bennett and Lou Smit he has to be worried about - - and they don't play these games.