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20 Q. Other than the thing that you
21 talked about the amount of blood indicating
22 that the asphyxiation occurred before the
23 blow to the head, are there any other
24 details that you have that would suggest the
25 sequence that you know of?

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1 MR. WOOD: From the forensic
2 people?
3 MR. KANE: From any source.
4 THE WITNESS: That a stun gun was
5 used to silence her.
6 Q. (By Mr. Kane) Where was that
7 information? Where did you get that
8 information?
9 A. I believe that came from Lou
10 Smith.
11 Q. Have you talked to anybody other
12 than Lou Smith -- well, let me ask you that.
13 Have you talked to Lou Smith directly
14 yourself?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. About that?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. Have you talked to anybody else
19 other than Lou Smith about a stun gun having
20 been used?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. And who was that?
23 A. Ollie Gray.
24 Q. Was Mr. Gray, did he offer up
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1 used?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. And have you talked to any
4 medical people about whether a stun gun was
5 used?
6 A. I have not myself.
7 Q. Have you heard indirectly from any
8 medical people about a stun gun having been
9 used?
10 A. I believe so.
11 Q. Who was that that you heard it
12 from?
13 A. I don't know the names.
14 Q. What have you heard from these
15 people?
16 A. I have heard that it has been
17 substantiated that a stun gun was used.
18 Q. What was it that substantiated the
19 use of a stun gun?
20 A. Whatever they do to test markings
21 against known markings of a particular stun
22 gun.
23 Q. And so that is what it is, the
24 markings?
25 A. (Witness nodded head

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1 affirmatively).
2 Q. Have you ever, to your knowledge,
3 you or Mr. Ramsey, ever hired a forensic
4 expert to look at that issue, to look at the
5 autopsy report or look at any other evidence
6 that might be available that would have a
7 bearing on whether a stun gun was used?
8 A. I can't say for sure. John may
9 know that.
10 Q. But to your knowledge, you
11 haven't?
12 MR. WOOD: I think she told you
13 she hasn't.
14 MR. KANE: She said she can't say
15 for sure.
16 THE WITNESS: I don't know.
17 MR. WOOD: I think when you say
18 you can't say for sure, is there anything to
19 add to that, Patsy?
20 THE WITNESS: No. I don't know.
21 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, in
22 the course of your conversation with Mr.
23 Schmidt concerning the stun gun, do you
24 recall whether or not he sat down and showed
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1 to be stun gun injuries?
2 A. I believe he did.
3 Q. Did you or, at your request, were
4 copies of those provided to any other medical
5 people, copies of the photographs to assist
6 them?
7 A. I don't know.
8 MR. LEVIN: Are you done, Mike?
9 MR. KANE: Yes. I have other
10 questions, but take a minute.

AARGHHH!!! It is clear to me that K&C were trying to investigate the Ramseys and their investigation and contacts and not trying to get to the killer.

Patsy said she knew a stun gun was used. Not one question about who may have had a stun gun - - not one question about tips that may have gone to the Ramseys about people who had stun guns.

If I had been Patsy or Lin, I would have been tearing my hair out in frustration.

How anyone can read this transcript and still support Kane is beyond me. He (and his team) did a terrible job.