Q. Why did you not, when you had old Barry Scheck, a nice guy, Henry Lee, all these VIPs there,
why did you not include the intruder evidence in the presentation to objectively give those individuals
both sides of the case?

A. Because the Boulder Police Department's position was, as I understood it and understand it, the
VIP presentation was to show that there was sufficient probable cause to arrest Patsy Ramsey and for
the DA's office to move it forward through the use of a grand jury with that end in mind.

Q. Of an indictment which is a finding by a grand jury of probable cause to charge or arrest, right?

A. Yes.