Q. Fleet White tell you that when he was downstairs in the basement with John Ramsey that John
Ramsey went into the wine cellar room and turned on what he called a neon light and then cried out,
my baby; did Fleet White tell you that?

A. As to the matter of flipping on the light --

Q. Yes, sir.

A. -- yeah, I don't recall that.

Q. Do you have any knowledge as you sit here today to deny it?

A. I would look at my report before I gave you a definitive answer.

Q. Whose idea was it to go down to the basement first after Linda Arndt suggested to Fleet White
that she ought to keep John busy and they could go search the house. And as I recall, Fleet White didn't
really want to go tell John that himself and asked Linda Arndt to suggest it to him. Does that scenario
sound familiar to you and accurate?

A. No.

Q. Not at all?

A. No, sir.

Q. How is it inaccurate?

A. Detective Arndt's description of that was that she gathered Fleet White to occupy a distracted
John Ramsey to keep his mind busy and instructed him to search the house in her words from top to
bottom. Upon which time Arndt's recollection to me was that it was Ramsey who led the two men
downstairs.

Q. What was Fleet White's recollection to you about who made the decision to start down in the
basement?

A. I don't know that -- again, without reviewing my reports and my interview with Fleet, but that's
not today, consistent -- no, Fleet White hasn't indicated to me that he was the leader going downstairs.

Q. Are you telling me if Linda Arndt says, listen, I want you two guys to go over here and I want
you to search this house from top to bottom, you think that was -- is to be interpreted as saying I want
you to start at the top and go to the bottom or does that really say I want you to search this entire
place? What do you think is the more reasonable way to interpret that statement search the house top
to bottom?

A. You would have to ask Linda Arndt --

Q. You said you did?

A. -- but her -- I did and her comment to me was, quote, From top to bottom and the indication I
took away from it was that her instruction was to search the house from top to bottom.

THE DEPONENT: Chuck, can we take a break?

MR. DIAMOND: When you get to a convenient stopping point.

MR. WOOD: If he wants it take a break I'm fine. We will take it right now.

THE DEPONENT: Thank you.

MR. WOOD: Any time you want to do that, Mr. Thomas, don't hesitate to ask.

VIDEO TECHNICIAN: The time is 2:57. We're going off the record.

(Recess taken from 2:57 p.m. to 3:05 p.m.)