Q. Now, do you have any knowledge as to whether or not the FBI ever had an opinion with respect
to whether probable cause existed for the arrest of someone for the murder of JonBenet Ramsey? A. It was my impression and they were very professional in our dealings with them, but I don't think
they ever countered or challenged the fact that the police department had this sufficient probable cause.
Q. Do you know whether or not the FBI actually saw the evidence that the police had with respect
to whether or not there was probable cause to charge someone for the murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
A. Well, certainly a lot of the facts and the evidence, the factual evidence, from this case was
shared with members of the FBI.
Q. Did you ever have occasion to speak with any of the members of the FBI that were looking at
the evidence?
A. Yeah, on several occasions. And again, I think they always tempered comments and were most
professional. But, again, I, Mr. Hoffman, don't have that specific recollection of an exchange but it was
always my impression that they supported us fully on that.
Q. Do you know whether or not the FBI had occasion to examine the ransom note and handwriting
exemplars of either John or Patsy Ramsey?
A. I don't know whether or not the FBI conducted any examinations of handwriting exemplars, but
they certainly reviewed and studied and discussed with us the ransom note itself.
Q. Did they offer any insight or any analysis of the ransom note?
A. They did.
Q. Do you remember what that analysis consisted of?
A. We had a meeting in Quantico, Virginia and I'm trying to recollect the date. It doesn't come to
me right now. But nonetheless, the ransom note was dissected and profiled and so forth. And certainly
I would suggest that you ask any of them. But it's my recollection of that meeting, of which reports
were written and, you know, there is a lot of information about what went on in those meetings, but
how patently bogus and crafted and stilted and just non authentic this ransom note was.
Q. I would like you to turn, if you will, please, to page 312 of your book.
A. Okay.
Q. And I would like you to look at what looks like to be the third sentence. It begins "'What's going
on in that DA's office.'" If you would read that paragraph -- to the end of that paragraph and then
read the next paragraph.
A. Okay. "'What's going on in that DA's office is a disgrace' one of the FBI agents observed during
our last supper. This case has become an embarrassment to law enforcement. We were all in
agreement. 'It is terribly discouraging how the DA is handling this,' said one Dream Team attorney,
'Hunter is going to outsmart himself on this one.'"
Q. Did you actually hear that statement made.
A. Which statement is that?
Q. The quote from the FBI agent, what's going on is a disgrace?
A. Yes.
Q. Just everything that you read there you have in quotations --
A. Yes.
Q. -- were you actually present at that?
A. I was.
Q. Yes. And is that an accurate recollection of what was said?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know what they were referring to when they said that what was going on in the DA's
office is a disgrace?
A. They were certainly familiar with a lot of the history and the animosity and, you know, the ugly
politics involved in this thing and I don't know to what disgrace they're specifically referring to but I
think it can cover a number of things.
Q. Do you know what they were referring to when they say, quote, Hunter is going to outsmart
himself on this one, unquote?
MR. DIAMOND: That was a Dream Team attorney, not the FBI.
MR. WOOD: Hey, Darnay, why --
MR. HOFFMAN: You're right, that's correct, okay, I'm sorry.
MR. WOOD: Darnay, would it be --
MR. HOFFMAN: I admit that and I'm just going to double back a little bit. Lin, what were you going
to say?
MR. WOOD: I was going to say maybe it would be helpful to figure out which is which if we -- if you
want to ask him who the FBI agent was and who the Dream Team attorney was.
MR. HOFFMAN: Yeah, Lin, I was about to get to that.
Q. (BY MR. HOFFMAN) In fact why don't I just do that, ask you who the FBI agent was, if you
remember?
A. There were at least three agents at that dinner and it may have been Mike Morrow.
Q. Do you know what, is it Mike Morrow?
A. Um-hum.
Q. What his function was with the FBI? I mean what exactly was his involvement in the case?
A. He was or is a special agent with the Federal Bureau based out of, I think they're based out of
Quantico or that Virginia-DC area and he was assigned to that child abduction and serial killer unit.
Q. Did he ever express an opinion as to who he thought committed this crime?
A. Again, I think they were very diplomatic in their response, but I don't recall that specific
conversation with Mr. Morrow. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me for him to say he was consistent
with everyone else.
Q. Okay. So but you have no personal knowledge of that?
A. Right.
Q. Okay. Now, to the second paragraph and, please, excuse me, I'm sorry for having you read that
in a way that could confuse people. That second paragraph says "'It is terribly discouraging how the D
A is handling this,' said one Dream Team attorney. Hunter is going to outsmart himself on this one.'"
Who was the Dream Team attorney who made that statement, if you remember?
A. I believe that was Bob Miller.
Q. Was Bob Miller at this meeting where the prior statement by the FBI agent was made which we
have just referred to?
A. There were several people in this restaurant this particular evening. So I don't know whether or
not he heard, overheard that conversation.
Q. Right. So his statement then may not have been in reaction to the FBI statement; is that correct?
A. Right.
Q. And do you know what he meant when he said that Hunter is going to outsmart himself on this
one?
A. No. I think there are a number of ways to interpret it but it sort of stands alone in my mind.