Q. Did you ever interview Shirley Brady, who had been a housekeeper for the Ramseys for almost
four years?

A. The name sounds familiar and if it's the person I'm thinking of who resided in Georgia I think
Harmer or Gosage conducted that interview.

Q. They would have prepared a report?

A. I would think so.

Q. Shirley Brady tells me that she got a phone call and about a five-minute interview and when she
said she made it pretty clear that the Ramseys weren't in any way the type of people that could be
involved in this, that the interview ended and she never heard from anybody again. Does that sound
like a thorough investigation if that's true?

A. It depends on what the detectives were doing. I don't know what they were doing.

Q. Well, you know if you have got to -- if you're spending a lot of time with Linda Hoffmann-Pugh
who had worked for them less than two years and only worked part time and you want to know all
about this family's background, a thorough investigation, wouldn't you believe, sir, from your experience
as a police officer that you're going to spend more than five minutes on the phone with someone who
was a housekeeper for three years?

A. For some reason in my mind, and I may be wrong, I don't think Mrs. Brady was ever in Colorado
with the family. There was apparently nothing that the detective who interviewed her felt was worth
more than their five minutes. You would have to ask them.

Q. So you had to be in Colorado with the family in order to be a significant witness as to their
background?

A. No, not to their background.

Q. That doesn't make any sense, does it?

A. No.

Q. I didn't think it did.