Q. There has been a lot of debate about whether or not John Ramsey or Patsy Ramsey or some of
the Ramsey family before the murder of JonBenet owned the book Mind Hunter by John Douglas.
Have you ever seen a photograph of that from a crime scene photo in their house?

A. No, but Tom Wickman swears up and down it was in the parents' bedroom.

Q. Does anyone else, besides Tom Wickman, swear that up and down?

A. No, but Tom Wickman has told that to several people.

Q. Where in the bedroom?

A. I was always under the impression as we recollect it now on one of the two night stands.

Q. By John's bed or by Patsy's?

A. I'm sorry, it's one or the other, I thought. Maybe I -- no, maybe I referenced it in the book,
maybe I didn't. All I can tell you right now is on one of the night stands.

Q. Did you keep a -- but Wickman is the only person that says that, right?

A. As far as crime scene people that were in the house.

Q. Or anybody.

A. Yeah, Wickman is the source of Mind Hunter by Douglas.

Q. Anyone else, besides Wickman, is all I'm trying to find out?

A. Not that I'm aware of.