MR. WOOD: If we can go for about five or a few minutes I want to just kind of touch on a few things
that you brought up, Darnay, and then we will break for lunch.Is that okay guys?

MR. DIAMOND: That's fine.

MR. HOFFMAN: Fine.

FURTHER EXAMINATION BY-MR.WOOD:

Q. The FBI analyzed the 911 tape and they did not find any such language, true?

A. I don't know what the FBI and Secret Service did because it was my understanding there may
have been equipment that was incompatible to conduct this testing or for whatever reason but bottom
line is the Secret Service and --

Q. The FBI?

A. Federal Bureau -- yeah, were unable to --

Q. They didn't hear the voice that Aerospace heard, right?

A. I don't know what they did or didn't hear or what they did or didn't test. I don't -- I think one of
those agencies didn't even have equipment to test the tape.

Q. So you think the FBI didn't reach a conclusion with respect to the 911 tape; is that your
testimony?

A. I don't know what the FBI or Secret Service concluded, I know what Aerospace did.

Q. And you also know that the tape was taken to a fourth group and they came up with different
words from the tape than what Aerospace had come up with, true?

A. I know that Mr. Hofstrom took the tape to his brother-in-law for enhancement.

Q. Are you suggesting that his brother-in-law somehow falsified a report?

A. Did I say anything like that?

Q. No, sir, I'm just asking you're not suggesting that, are you?

A. No, you mentioned a fourth testing facility and I simply replied that Mr. Hofstrom took the tape to
his brother-in-law.

Q. So for whatever reason the FBI doesn't hear the third party, the Secret Service doesn't hear the
third party, Aerospace claims to hear it and then the fourth group hears something different; is that a
fair generalization of the 911 tape?

A. I'm not sure that the first two agencies ever heard anything because I'm not sure they ever
listened to the tape. I'm just --

Q. Did you not bother to ask the FBI, I mean, you -- please, Mr. Thomas?

MR. DIAMOND: Two questions.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Did you ever bother to call the FBI and say, gentlemen, what did you find
about the 911 tape?

A. I'm sure Detective Hickman, whose assignment this was, may have done that.

Q. Well, what, did you ask Hickman what did the FBI say? You know, we've spent a lot of time
with the FBI, Tom, what did they say? Did you ask him?

MR. DIAMOND: Did he ask him what?

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) What the FBI had to say about the 911 tape?

A. Again, as I've said it's my understanding, Mr. Wood, that I don't know whether or not the FBI or
Secret Service even tested the tape. The first testing that was done on it, to my knowledge, was
through the Aerospace Corporation.

Q. And did you -- have you ever tried at any time as you sit here today to make any efforts to find
out about whether the FBI or the Secret Service even tested the tape and if so, what their results
were?

A. I don't know that.

Q. Have you made any efforts is my question?

A. No.

Q. As we sit here today, you've never made any effort to find that out --

A. No.

Q. -- right? Am I right? Sometimes the no comes out differently. The question is you've never
made any such efforts to find out about the FBI or the Secret Service testing of the tape?

A. I have not made calls or efforts trying to determine that to the FBI or SecretService.

Q. As we sit here today you have not done that?

A. That's right.