Q. You would tell me, too, that if JonBenet Ramsey was alive when she was strangled and alive
when she was molested and that there is evidence of a struggle in her neck area, that if you assume
those facts to be true, that that would be inconsistent with staging of a crime, correct?

A. I don't agree with the premise. I agree with the expert Dr. Spitz' conclusion on that.

Q. I'm asking you, though, sir. You're talking about staging the crime. If JonBenet were struggling
to try to get the garrote loose, that certainly would be inconsistent with the parent staging a crime
thinking her child was dead, true?

A. Mr. Smit did present to the police department that theory.

Q. But I'm not asking about Mr. Smit with all due respect.

A. I'm trying to answer the question.

Q. I'm asking you about the concept itself. If the child is found to be struggling to get at the garrote,
that would be totally inconsistent with the idea of staging by a parent who thought the child was dead. I
mean, that's just one and one equals two, doesn't it, sir?

A. Two different concepts. I disagree. I think that, as I've have said, I think parents have killed
their children in a variety of ways.

Q. I'm talking about staging where you think your child is dead or your child is dead and you're trying
to stage a crime scene. After the fact that's staging, right, to make it look like something that it's not,
true?

A. Staging, my understanding is just that, recreating or messing with a crime scene to divert
attention, making it appear something that it's not.

Q. Then if you've got a child that is trying to pull at the garrote, that would not be consistent at all
with the parent placing a garrote and tightening it around the child's neck to make it appear that the
child was strangled as part of staging a crime, would it, sir, can't you --

A. No.

Q. -- acknowledge that --

A. I'm not going to go along with that and agree to it.

Q. Why not?

A. I just don't agree with it.

Q. So Patsy Ramsey theoretically had JonBenet Ramsey there pulling at this garrote around her
neck, scratching at it and you still believe that the garrote would have been placed there by Patsy
Ramsey to stage the crime; is that what your testimony is?

A. If that's what you're telling me, I won't dispute that's what happened.

Q. Do you believe that is what happened?

A. No. I've offered a hypothesis that I believe was consistent with the evidence as I knew it, that
possibly what happened.

Q. Let me ask you something about the use of the word hypothesis. Where did you come up with
that word? You use it in almost every interview.

A. I don't know, in school somewhere.

Q. As it applies to your book?

A. No, you asked me where I learned the word hypothesis.

Q. Are you prepared to state as a fact, sir, that Patsy Ramsey murdered her daughter?

A. No, I'm prepared --

Q. Thank you.

A. -- to say, as I have in the past, that that's my belief.