OK Slapfish, I have really tried to explain what I mean by clunking noises. Please remember that I am a 'foreigner' and try not to be unkind about any differences in my use of the English language!

I don't know how else to describe the noises that one hears when the person at the other end of the line is trying to hang a phone up.

Thomas quite clearly describes that Patsy "apparently had trouble hanging up the phone" (ST paperback p14).

Tell me Slapfish, how would it be apparent that someone had difficulty hanging up the phone if there weren't any clunking or RATTLING (is that a better word?) noises of the attempts to put the receiver in the cradle?

Tipper, the depositions are checked and signed by the deponents. I think the punctuation is pretty clear in this case. If there were no commas, then it might give your thoughts some credence, but I think you are stretching to support these claims that there were no 'phone being replaced with difficulty' noises at the end of the call.

I don't even understand why Slapfish & co need to deny that these noises are there. If she was hysterical, it seems perfectly reasonable to believe that her hands were shaking.