Q. Did you review the reports on any of the 73?

A. Have you seen the -- if you've seen the CBI reports, that's not how they're stated in a narrative
form like that. No, I never saw anything like that.

Q. Nor does the CBI do handwriting analysis and reach a conclusion, for example, that 24 of 26
letters of the alphabet are similar, they don't do that, do they, sir?

A. Well, according to Detective Sergeant Wickman, he came back and told us that.

Q. But you know that Mr. Ubowski has in fact denied that as being accurate?

A. No, I don't know that.

Q. You didn't see his statement with respect to the fact that he had never concluded anything about
Patsy Ramsey in terms of 24 of 26 letters of the alphabet being similar?

A. Well, you can ask --

Q. I'm asking you this question, please.

A. I know and I'm trying to answer it for you.

Q. Please do.

A. Wickman came back from CBI and told that to John Eller and he told that to me and that was
Trujillo's account and other detectives were told that.

Q. You didn't hear it from Ubowski?

A. No, I didn't deal with Ubowski.

Q. You didn't see it in writing from Ubowski?

A. No.

Q. After your book came out you weren't aware that Ubowski publicly stated that he had never
concluded that Patsy Ramsey was the author of the note and that he had never concluded that 24 of
the 26 letters of the alphabet from her writing were similar?

A. Well, you had two questions.

Q. Are you familiar with my question?

MR. DIAMOND: Will you let him answer the question, please?

MR. WOOD: I will. I think I've let him answer every question so far.

MR. DIAMOND: You didn't. You didn't.

MR. WOOD: Well, I'm certainly going to because I want to get his answer to every question. Let's let
him do it. I'll restate it.

MR. DIAMOND: I would like the reporter to reread it.

MR. WOOD: I'll withdraw it and restate it.

MR. DIAMOND: All right.

Q. (BY MR. WOOD) After your book came out, sir, were you aware that Mr. Ubowski publicly
denied the accuracy of the statement that he concluded Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note?

A. No. You're telling me this for the first time.

Q. Are you familiar that Mr. Ubowski stated that he had never reached the conclusion that 24 of her
letters out of the 26 letters of the alphabet were matched with the ransom note?

A. No, I have not heard that.

Q. And you stated to the contrary in your book, didn't you?

A. Yeah, I stated what I was told by my detective sergeant.

Q. And you weren't even, I guess, aware that Mr. Ubowski and the CBI said they don't even make
that kind of analysis with respect to the 24 out of the 26 letters of the alphabet, you don't know anything
about that --

A. No.

Q. -- in terms of the public statement by the CBI after your book was published?

A. The CBI made a public statement?

Q. Yes, sir.

A. As an organization, I haven't seen that.

MR. WOOD: I'll show it to you when we come back a little bit later on. Let's take five minutes.

VIDEO TECHNICIAN: The time is 11:06. We're going off the record. This is the end of tape one.