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Topic ID: 1686
Message ID: 35
#35, RE: Update on 911 enhancement
Posted by Margoo on Feb-18-04 at 02:11 PM
In response to message #34
"Spade's lab" was supposed to "confirm" that the tape had "redactions". That was about 4 months ago. How long does it take?

Tricia went off (in January, I think) and hired her own lab (due to legitimate criticisms from posters like Cheekysodd), but her mission was a little different. She wasn't looking for redaction (although that would be okay); she was looking for "hidden" conversation/voices - anywhere - front end of tape or back end of tape. Her "lab guy" is busy with "court cases", but will fit it in somewhere (he's been paid up front). According to Tricia, her "lab guy's" preliminary report (end of January) was that he can hear a female voice saying "Help me, Jesus" (but, of course, cannot identify it as Patsy's voice - voice identification is a whole other matter).

I don't think Patsy has ever denied (or confirmed) that she may have said "Help me, Jesus", but to believe that 'lament' is on the tape/cd requires believing the phone was not hung up. Whether she did or did not is completely irrelevant, however, isn't it?

I think it is important that WHOEVER is looking at doing this analysis has the cassette tape and the cd since the "noise" at the beginning and end of the cd version sound similar and is NOT on the cassette tape at all. What is on the original evidence tape may need comparing as well -

From Dave's report:

#1 refers to audio section prior to the 911 operator's connection to Patsy's call
#2 refers to audio section after the 4th "Patsy"
#3 refers to audio section alleged to be "What DID you find" - the last audible 'assumed' key press
#4 containing similar noise to section #2 is contained only on the CD track and follows a section of buzzing which resembles that of an amplified ground loop where the ground loop is close to electrical equipment such as a computer. Section #4 also sounds like #1 which is immediately prior to the connection being made to the Ramsey phone line.


This last audio section lasts about seven seconds and is somewhat of a mystery. It is not contained on the cassette tape at all, and it appears to have nothing whatsoever to do with the call from Patsy.
The intervening buzzing sound between the audio sections #3 and #4 is very similar to the buzzing sound at the very beginning of the CD track, before audio section #1 starts. During both of these buzzing sounds, there is no audible input whatsoever, that is no discernible background noise such as from an open microphone or anything else such as that. This intervening buzzing sound is the strongest evidence that audio section #4 has nothing to do with Patsy's call. It is fortuitous, however, that it appears to have the same type of noise as does the recording of Patsy's call, as if it were from
the same original recording system, perhaps something like a hangup call that came in soon after Patsy's call.

The cassette recording was judged to be probably the most faithful rendition of the master recording (evidence tape), even though we did not have access to this master. We judge this because of the excessive amount of extra noise on the CD track. With respect to the digitized audio cassette recording , it was possible to overlay only audio sections #2 and #3 because sections #1 and #4 were not present on the audio tape. Nevertheless, it was possible to find a particular offset time, the same as for the CD track, which seemed to join these sections together. Some of the noise was very similar in both channels. In particular, the cadence of the two was suspiciously similar.
In particular, the section that precedes the 911 dispatcher's answering of the 911 call (#1) cannot possibly contain speech by the
Ramseys, yet this early background noise is indistinguishable from the noise that is part of purported conversation between the Ramseys (#2). One can easily fool oneself into believing that there is
conversation, but a more careful examination of the recording, complete with comparisons of one section of the recording to another by superposing them together in separate stereo channels, allows
one to hear that the background noise is repeated at various times throughout the recording.
... one may find that certain noises that are on the audio cassette and especially on the CD track not to be present on the evidence tape.