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Forum Name: more and more JBR
Topic ID: 1567
Message ID: 27
#27, RE: Was Helgoth Murdered?
Posted by jameson on Jul-28-03 at 04:38 PM
In response to message #0
>The death of Michael Helgoth was ruled a suicide by police.
TRUE

>There was a connection to the Ramsey case because he had
>some sort of obsession with JonBenet, (according to a
>friend).
FALSE

> In spite of the stun gun and Hi-Tek boots found in
>his room, there was no serious investigation to link him to
>the Ramsey murder. There was no search of his room. His
>house was demolished and razed to the ground.
The police refused to do a serious investigation there - - seems to me they simply refused to do it because they thought they had the killers identified. They were wrong, of course.... but that didn't matter.
They didn't take thingsfrom his room that may well have been related to the Ramsey case- - and I am not talking just about the boots and stun gun - - both found next to his body. There was even more - - but the BPD didn't seem to care.
The house was actually bought by the city and demolished by the city so they could have more open space. Searching the house at that point might have helped the Ramsey investigation, but again, the BPD chose to ignore the opportunity.
A friend of Helgoth - John Kennedy - thought that something in there might solve the case - he went in and grabbed some stuff - - and was arrested for burglary.
Go figure.
I think the Helgoth question needs to be reviewed by the new team.

>His family
>did not believe it was suicide; they think he was murdered.
Some, maybe not all. That's true.

From the chat with Steve Thomas:


>jameson:
> Steve, thanks for taking the question. Since I
>have only one, this is it - - "Why wasn't
> Michael Helgoth's room searched when the
>sheriff's department advised that he may
> need to be looked at? (after his suicide - when a
>stun gun and Hi-Tec boots were
> clearly visible in the photos of his body..."
>
>stevethomas
> Re: photo you mention -- have you seen it? or is
>it someone "else" who is talking
> about stun guns and hi-tecs? i agree, if bpd
>didn't take the opportunity to look at it,
> even to discount it, it was a missed opportunity.
>but don't make hay out of something
> in left field. those inside the case didn't think
>it was stun gun, based on medical
> evidence. and the hi-tec boot has inherent chain
>of custody issues. thanks for the
> questions, sorry the space allows for only such a
>short answer.

Steve Thomas gave a non-answer - - and included a question in it that I was not allowed to respond to.
Yes, I saw the photo -
yes it was a missed opportunity - - I was asking why they missed it - and he didn't answer.
The chain-of-custody "issues" were a crock. Later those same boots WERE taken by the BPD to the CBI for comparison. The chain of custody then was certainly longer - - but still the evidence could be used - - and Thomas knew that as well as I did.


>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Rita Johnson posted that "...when they discovered Michael; he was "crouched" down at the end of the bed under the covers with a pillow that had muffled the gun shot."

That is wrong - I have the autopsy - we posted it long ago - - and I have seen the photos - - Rita is absolutely wrong. I think she is fishing for information - - since it doesn't matter to the Ramsey case, I see no reason to give it to her. But Michael was NOT "crouched" or under the covers.


Rita, I think, makes up this crap as she goes along. Please don't bother bringing her posts here. It is garbage.