Ramsey detectives off to California

Police to meet with therapist of woman who claims possible link to case

By Christopher Anderson (c) 2000
Daily Camera Staff Writer, Boulder, March 5, 2000

Boulder police detectives will be in San Luis Obispo, Calif., on Wednesday to interview the therapist of a woman who
claims to have information possibly connected to the JonBenét Ramsey murder investigation.

Mary Bienkowski, a licensed family therapist, said detectives have scheduled to meet with her to discuss her client, a
37-year-old sex assault victim who has been seeing Bienkowski for 10 years.

Bienkowski said she believes her client may have important information about widespread sex rings that involve the
abuse of children and may provide a possible link to the Dec. 26, 1996, strangulation and beating death of JonBenét
Ramsey.

She said she encouraged her client to take the information to Boulder police so it could be fully investigated.
Bienkowski has since become critical of the department and reluctant to cooperate with police.

On Feb. 22, Boulder police interviewed Bienkowski's client in Colorado for five hours. The FBI interviewed the woman
the next day. Detectives also have contacted the members of the woman's family and have interviews with some of
them scheduled in California this week.

Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner on Friday would not confirm whether his detectives were in California.

Beckner also said he could not discuss whether the woman's information has led police to any
promising leads in the Ramsey case.

"Right now it's still too early to say," he said. "We are still running things down and scheduling interviews
and things like that....We are still working on it."

The woman lives just west of San Luis Obispo in Los Osos, where she worked as a home nurse's aide
for elderly people. She is currently in hiding.

Bienkowski said she has turned over some of her client's files to police, but not all of them.

"I am being allowed to pick and choose those things that are directly related to this case," Bienkowski said.

San Luis Obispo County sheriff's deputies have said the woman has filed several criminal reports that investigators
could not confirm, including a 1991 report that she had been raped.

Some of the woman's family members also cast doubt on some of her claims. One family member said he believes
only 1 percent of her claims.

However, a friend of the woman defended her, saying she doesn't know whether the woman's claims are true or not,
but that "I've always believed her."

The JonBenét Ramsey murder has gone unsolved for more than three years. John and Patsy Ramsey have been the
focus of a Boulder police investigation into their daughter's death, but the couple has repeatedly denied any
involvement.

March 5, 2000

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Bienkowski said she has turned over some of her client's files to police, but not all of them.

"I am being allowed to pick and choose those things that are directly related to this case," Bienkowski said.

THAT made no sense to me - - if I was an investigator I would be pretty wary about trusting the therapist here to do the "sorting".

Comments?

It reads as if she was given permission to pick the things to give to the investigators by the investigators.

Not that she was saying I will pick and choose what I want to give them.

Yes, I agree it sounds like the BPD was fine with her picking and choosing.... but with something so important.... I just think that the way all this worked out, it seems to me that if I were to go back and reinvestigate all that, I would want to see all the records.

One would think so. Especially with some of the names that she mentioned - whether credible or not.

Thats why they call them investigators, which is what they should have been doing.

Sometimes investigators don't want to receive all info from a patients file, it benefits the prosecution. California has strict patient privacy rights. No Colorado detectives can make any non-Judicial ordered demands in California without a Judges order or the patients release.

NK gave a partial release to her therapist.

Hey! Now we're talking!!!

What ever happened to Kimba? She was my partner in research on the "Trona threads". I don't think I have the threads, but I noticed the other day that I still have the link to Nancy's high school class page (which doesn't mean anything). I remember Mackie's daughter got pissed at me for emailing her daugher in college about her grandpa. oh well.

If they need them all - they know how to get them.

Being allowed to pick and choose doesn't sound real good. One could infer that she was able to put forward only the things that would sound the most inflammatory. What I think it means, though, is that the cops really only wanted what was relative to the case. The therapist would be in a sticky situation between client confidentiality and cooperation with authority. I'm sure she did her best to balance the two. What would be the point of handing over stuff that had no relevance?

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My understanding is that Nancy had been a patient of Bienkowski for many years, (TEN YEARS PER THE ABOVE ARTICLE) the files could be IMENSE, LIKE HUNDREDS OF SESSIONS, and much of it may not relate to the case. The BPD was not interested in the content of her files, as I understand it. They were only interested in the method. I do not think they really had any interest at all. Nevertheless, a small portion of the records were probably applicable, and she sorted that out for them. Here's the article where she said the BPD was not interested in the content of her records, only the method of her work:

"Bienkowski on Thursday said that when Boulder detectives interviewed her on Wednesday, they questioned "the structure, not the content of her treatment."

Bienkowski said she felt detectives were "looking for ways to invalidate the statements."

http://www.longmontfyi.com/ramsey/storyDetail00.asp?ID=30

>Ramsey detectives off to California
>
>Police to meet with therapist of woman who claims possible
>link to case
>
>Bienkowski said she has turned over some of her client's
>files to police, but not all of them.
>
>"I am being allowed to pick and choose those things that are
>directly related to this case," Bienkowski said.
>
>
>THAT made no sense to me - - if I was an investigator I
>would be pretty wary about trusting the therapist here to do
>the "sorting".

Detectives off to California to meet with therapist of woman who claims possible link to UFOs.
Therapist said she has turned over some of her client's files to police, but not all of them.

Now I don't know if this woman who is always making allegations of rape is also making allegations of UFOs too, but the principle is the same.
Fruitcake.

I guess that makes the Mackey Boykin conviction a fabricated story too.

You criticize people who "convict" the Ramseys based on comparisons with other cases where parents have killed their children (Andrea Yates, Christian Longo, Susan Smith) yet you claim Nancy is not believable by comparing her allegations to other UNRELATED cases.

You are not consistent, nor are you being fair to victims of abuse. Whether you choose to believe Nancy or NOT, you can't determine her validity by looking at other, unrelated cases. I also find your comparison to UFO allegations flakey and offensive.

You remind me of those who believe that IF an intruder killed JonBenet, it must have been an alien. Obviously there was an intruder in the Ramsey house, but their mindset can't accept it. And from your comments, you obviously don't believe there's any such thing as multi-generational incest and abuse. You also have NO IDEA what is contained in Nancy's confidential records, so think before you speak as if you do.

>I also find your comparison to UFO allegations flakey and offensive.
flakey and offensive is the right phrase to use regarding all these absurd allegations of hundreds of rapes.

Please quote where Nancy said she was raped by hundreds of men. FWIW, those kind of statements are what prompted her to consider a lawsuit, IMO.

Is a family therapist equipped to handle mental illness? I really think they needed to see all the records, to get a better picture---with perhaps relevant ones flagged.

My understanding is that she has made multiple allegations of rape over several years and that one of the men she accused was known to have been three states away at the time of the alleged rape.
hence my use of the term : fruitcake.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, particularly when there is so little known. Having read a few things about her situation I tend to believe her. She has nothing to gain from her contribution to the case and may have risked her life to come out, but the attempts to discredit her do nothing for the case. Police may be protecting their own with lies. Rapists don't like to come out and admit what they are. Her abusers don't want to tarnish the family image or themselves.

And none of this ever reported to the local police before? When did the names get inserted into the files? Pre or post 1996? It was reported that there was a history of false reporting---the local police were well aware of MW. It doesn't mean there's not some kernel of truth--some type of sexual abuse by someone----but the charges of this wide-spread conspiracy going way back are hard to believe. Many mentally ill people will glop on to someone that shows them sympathy-----encourages their delusions. More than one has been fooled.

I don't think this story should have been publicized at all---without checking things out.

We are talking about the BPD, right?

If they told her she could pick and choose what was relevant, that is THEIR fault, not hers. Put the blame where it is due, which is right in the hands of the BPD, the people ultimately responsible for sinking this case.

Maikai

Mackey Boykin went to jail for sexually abusing NK/MW. Just prior to the trial he plea bargained to fewer charges than he would have been on trial for in 1980.

The Boulder Police Department were given EVERYTHING they requested from Bienkowski. They continue to have a complete file of therapy notes and records. If that were not the case, believe me, it would have made headlines.

there was more to the Boykin story......that it wasn't exactly nonconsensual, but he picked the wrong girl, because she flipped out afterwards and accused him. There may have been an underage issue...and a history in high school of unbalance.

you have a link so I can read that ?

did do extensive research into this...including talking to people close to MW and Boykin......and this person concluded there was a long history of a mental illness that her family members knew about, as well as the local police----I don't believe the information was publically posted---some of it was. There was so much publicity when the story came out---I don't believe the police wouldn't have found the truth out--if there was something to find out about a conspiracy.

...this was consensual? It's one thing to disagree with this possible connection, but to suggest this is the case when you have NO solid information, is outrageous! The "research" you speak of was done with FAMILY MEMBERS!!!! What do you expect them to say?

Have you seen a picture of Macky Boykin?

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was said, and the source is known to check things very carefully. I know you spent time with her, and believe her story. I find it hard to believe she's constantly a victim---and if her story is true, why it wasn't fully investigated during the l0 years she met with the family therapist, and why there's no one that supports her allegations (of her childhood years)---no evidence at all that I know of. This wasn't a kid that was abused by a male in the house, and the mother turned a blind eye. She said there were multiple adults involved in this ritualistic sex thing on Holidays--it's just unbelievable to me.

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According to the Westwood article "Accidental Jurist," that profiled Lee Hill,

"At her therapist's office, The Witness laid out what she knew while Hill videotaped. She said she didn't expect Hill, or the police, to take her word for what had happened to her -- what was still happening, she said, as her therapist confirmed that The Witness continued to be assaulted and controlled by this subculture. The police in her hometown just took her family's word for it that she was crazy, despite the fact that she had told the truth twenty years ago and sent a perpetrator to jail. http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-03-30/feature.html/7/index.html

Nancy Krebs claims (and according to Westwood, Lee Hill says he has a videotape of her testimony)that she is still being assaulted.

Why couldn't Lee Hill stake out the perpetrators and catch them with Nancy. Lee Hill briefly had his own detective agency, Verloc Group. Why not investigate her claims before going to the cops. It would be embarrassing for Hill if she were making false allegations.

Why, in 10 years, didn't the therapist tell the cops?

Couldn't Nancy buy a beeper and call her true believers/therapist everytime the subculture calls for her?

In ten years Nancy and Mary couldn't trap a man with his pants down?

No wonder this road show relocated to Boulder.

Gee, couldn't Nancy go to the ER and say she has been raped and get tested?

Are the doctors in on it? Her parents? The police?

Are the sperms in on the conspiracy, too?

What a performance! Where will this circus troup turn up next?

>According to the Westwood article "Accidental Jurist," that
>profiled Lee Hill,
>"At her therapist's office, The Witness laid out what she
>knew while Hill videotaped. She said she didn't expect Hill,
>or the police, to take her word for what had happened to her
>-- what was still happening, she said, as her therapist
>confirmed that The Witness continued to be assaulted and
>controlled by this subculture. The police in her hometown
>just took her family's word for it that she was crazy,
>despite the fact that she had told the truth twenty years
>ago and sent a perpetrator to jail...

It kind of reminds me of that little Stayner boy who was kidnapped by a pedophile at age 7. When another little boy was kidnapped when Stayner was 15 or 16, he took the other little boy to the police station and then was getting ready to return to his abuser!! Or young Elizabeth Smart who lied about who she was at first when police questioned her. There is some form of psychological control these people are exerting over these victims we don't quite understand, yet, it seems. They conceal and return to their abusers even when they are surrounded by people who could help. I wonder why. Do they like it? I doubt it. Are they liars and fruitcakes? I don't think so. Do they get confused and make mistakes while telling their stories? It wouldn't surprise me. It just isn't helpful to make a judgement without being intimately familiar with the circumstances, I don't think.

point to speculating. The Boykin family won't necessarily tell the truth - maybe they don't know it. He's dead and can't speak for himself. Nancy's story needed a very close inspection - which it never received. She's a footnote, unless earnest and honest investigators want to take another look.

Maybe someday real investigators, who will take a little time and patience, will get to the truth. No one has ever proved she ever lied. Many promised they would. I see no reason to discount her story.

I dont think its an easy task to just take a look at someones records with a psychiatrist (or psychologist). The client must have signed some type of waiver/release of information form. Theres all types of doctor/patient priviledges.

I dont know why some of you think it would be a good thing for a police department to be able to look at all a persons' records.
That is an invasion of privacy.

Besides, if the BPD was trying to discredit her, wouldnt they ask for all the files? Maybe they can find something in there which shows mental illness, etc.

came forward with great courage to tell what she knew. She did the right thing. She has not spoken a word publicly since she left Boulder for her last meeting with the BPD, over three years ago.

Nancy Krebs, and any witness, especially a sexual abuse victim deserves full respect.

Dozens of women, with similar abuse histories have contacted me over these years. I doubt any of them found the confidence and trust necessary to come forward to tell their stories. While these women are not connected to this case...they ALL deserve more.

In my opinion, many of them are grown up JonBenet Ramsey's.

All release forms were signed and given to the BPD.

In my opinion, Miss America 1958 is a grown-up JonBenet Ramsey. See how she couldn't admit her abuse until her fifties? That is common in abused persons, I believe. That in my opinion is the context with which NK should be judged, as opposed to the insensitive, uncaring, "fruitcake" stereotype some people place upon her.

I agree Mikie - all of us pick up the paper at one time or another and read about something like that -

what about that old guy in NY State that had the dungeon under his back yard - would anyone have believed that if they only saw it online ? now there are women coming out saying he had kidnapped them and couldnt direct the police to the house when they reported the incident because the house was hidden

I fully respect those who don't buy into this theory. However, I continue to be shocked at the level of flaming and nastiness that this lovely woman and her story bring up. It's as if she is a piece of garbage for many. How dreadful people are who choose to write such vile words. You gotta ask yourself why?

Fleet White had the same option any of us have...a civil libel suit against the woman he claims did him wrong. He chose not to take that option.

Mame and Mikie: You both made comments to the effect that certain sexually abused women are a “grown up JonBenet Ramsey.” Maybe I am misinterpreting your comments, and if so I apoligize, but are you implying that that JonBenet was sexually abused prior to her death? If so, I would sure like to know the basis for your comments because I have yet to see a single piece of evidence to suggest that in any way.

I don't have an opinion as to whether JonBenet was sexually abused prior to the murder. I've seen conflicting evidence in that regard.

One incident of child sexual abuse is far too many IMO.

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I have my beliefs which are not facts but just assumptions based on evidence. Others of course may not feel the evidence is there and so they will not have the same beliefs. Beliefs are not knowledge. Opinions are not facts. Evidence is not proof.

I see stun gun marks on JonBenet's legs.

I see Wecht's comment about chronic abuse.

I see evidence that her abuse was more than just at the night of her murder. The home burglar alarm went off in August inexplicably.

I see "a" link with NK and FW and JonBenet.

I see evidence she was taken from the home, hung in a tree, (cord matching garrote and wrist binding was in tree), and possibly abused during the night of her murder.

It's a personal theory that I have developed over the years, that she was killed because her abusers were avoiding prosecution.

I don't think she knew what happened, or was unable to distinguish what happened from dreams.

p.s. Her bedwetting and sleeping with Burke may have been caused from abuse.

As I said some will say this is not evidence. I say it is. Take your pick.

What type of knot was in the cord that was in the tree ? I am afraid I dont know how high the tree limb was either. Can someone help ?

"It's a personal theory that I have developed over the years, that she was killed because her abusers were avoiding prosecution."

Plural huh ?

>I see evidence she was taken from the home, hung in a tree,
>(cord matching garrote and wrist binding was in tree), and
>possibly abused during the night of her murder.

The ligature mark around the neck would have the characteristic inverted "V" mark if she had been hung.

I think it was written in response to my post.

I'm not disputing that something happened to MW, from which she never was able to recover. I question the conspiracy of all these adults and her own family--that would make them monsters....and why that was never uncovered--where are the other victims? She seems to be victimized over and over.

George, George, George of the jungle
Look out for that tree!

What tree?

What cord in what tree?

Never heard or read anything 'bout a tree.

Rainsong

By allowing the therapist to choose which records to turn over, the police have saved themselves hundreds of hours of time poring thru all the info noted by the therapist. Surely a subject like that could be handled in a couple of days. I echo Snapple's comments above about what all this info means.

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This is a bit off topic, maybe, but I just noticed an interesting claim made about what supposedly happened the day that the two FBI guys were executed by AIM and Peltier at short range.

According to this source, the FBI had gone to the reservation looking for stolen cowboy boots.

"in June of 1975, tension on the reservation peaked after two federal agents came to the town of Ogala to investigate a pair of stolen cowboy boots."
http://www.firstnationsdrum.com/history/wint00_murder.htm

Actually, I never heard this before and don't know if it is true or not. The source is partisan and not reliable on other matters in my opinion. I do think they were investigating a burglary. They weren't looking for Peltier.

What a coincidence. Weren't there some cowboy boots left at the Ramsey's summer home?? I wonder if that was some symbol?

Sorry for being off topic, but I didn't want to start a whole thread because Cinderfella lost his slippers.

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Hill, who is a former San Diego County deputy district attorney and former special assistant U.S. attorney, told the "Camera", that Nancy "is among the most credible witnesses I have ever interviewed." This speaks volume for the type of witnesses he interviews I think.
Denver Rocky Mountain News - 2/26/00 - page 4A

Jameson, does Lee Hill still believe this?

Also, what are the federal jurisdictional issues?

"This lead may involve possible federal jurisdictional issues," Hunter said in a statement issued by his officer Friday. "The FBI and I have discussed the preliminary interview that the FBI had with the witness. Denver Rocky Mountain News - 2/26/00 - page 4A

The FBI talked to Nancy Krebs and didn't seem to believe her account.

It is odd to me that Bienkowski would advise this woman for 10 years and not call the police. Usually doctors and teachers are obligated to contact the authorities if they suspect abuse.

Mary Bienkowski is listed with a website the specializes in dissociative disorders/ multiple personality. This is a very rare condition and some psychiatrists dispute that it exists at all.

I do know that severe trauma (wartime experiences, rape, violent death) can be repressed and then surfaces in unexpected ways. The theory of dissociative disorder is that these repeated childhood abuse traumas are sealed off and trapped in a different personality.

Bienkowski was listed on a website that is focused on DD and child abuse. So she probably diagnosed this DD more than one time.

Still, most psychiatrists see very little or none of it. Did a psychiatrist diagnose Nancy as having DD? Or just the therapist?

Here is Bienkowski's information on a site called, interestingly enough, "heart":

BIENKOWSKI MARY MFCC
1248 Laurel Lane
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401-0586 (805) 544 2275

3490 The Alameda
Santa Clara, CA 95050-0433 (408) 554 0888
http://www.heart7.net/states/california.html

http://www.heart7.net/
(a site for survivors of child sexual abuse and dissociative disorder/multiple personality disorder)

Mikie writes, "Nancy had been a patient of Bienkowski for many years, (TEN YEARS PER THE ABOVE ARTICLE) the files could be IMENSE, LIKE HUNDREDS OF SESSIONS, and much of it may not relate to the case. "

If I were the police, I would be interested in Nancy's credibility as a witness. If she has the names of a large number of people who, she claims, abused her, and these claims are not credible, then the police aren't going to believe her on Ramsey allegations.

Also, if Bienkowski has this information and didn't turn it over to her local police, then that is odd, especially since Nancy claimed the abuse was still going on.

Citing the Camera, one source <http://www.newsmakingnews.com/archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#The%20JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case:%20Emerging%20Child%20Sex-Ring%20Allegations,%20Political%20Connections%20and%20a%20Suspect>

claims
"Mary Bienkowski, a licensed marriage,
family and child counselor, said her client gave Boulder police specific names of individuals who are witnesses in the killing of JonBenét as well as ongoing sexual and physical abuse of other children."

Why didn't Mary go to the police in California?

The main propaganda theme of the above artice is that the government is covering up for the pedophiles:

"Was it the Belgium Syndrome that inspired Boulder DA Alex Hunter to leak information to the tabloids to destroy his own investigators? "The former lead investigator on the JonBenét Ramsey case," the Denver Post reported on February 16, 1999, "confirmed allegations that Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter enlisted the help of a tabloid reporter to discredit him. Former Boulder police Commander John Eller, who now lives in Florida, said he knew that Hunter had encouraged Globe reporter Jeff Shapiro to dig up dirt on him." In response, Hunter had no comment. "We're not going to get drawn into it," he said. "I simply do not want to get into any kind of discussion that could jeopardize the integrity of what we're doing."
http://www.newsmakingnews.com/archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#The%20JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case:%20Emerging%20Child%20Sex-Ring%20Allegations,%20Political%20Connections%20and%20a%20Suspect

The article explicitly accuses the Boulder government of corruption:

"Ravitz and MacFarland were cited with contempt of court. Ravitz, wearing a crumpled purple T-shirt, explained to District Judge Roxanne Bailin that the leakers planned on petitioning the D.A.'s office to allow them to testify before the grand jury, and present evidence of corruption in the city, including drug dealing and child pornography possibly "related to the slaying and handling of the Ramsey case." http://www.newsmakingnews.com/archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#The%20JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case:%20Emerging%20Child%20Sex-Ring%20Allegations,%20Political%20Connections%20and%20a%20Suspect

It is even alleged that the CIA is involved.

The proceedure for testifying at a grand jury is to first go to the authorities, not try to influence the grand jury. I imagine there is some screening process for a grand jury. Not just anyone can make any claim.

Alleging government coverup--this is what AIM did when it alleged that the deaths of Indians weren't being investigated.

"It is clear," Calhoun says, "from the statements of both Detective Colson and Char Blazer that the Boulder authorities were very interested in a connection between the death of Jonbenet Ramsey and what appears astonishingly to be organized pedophilia on a national level, perhaps with a criminal government license."1

Child sex and pornography rings with political ties have been known to exist."

(long article at http://www.newsmakingnews.com/archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#The%20JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case:%20Emerging%20Child%20Sex-Ring%20Allegations,%20Political%20Connections%20and%20a%20Suspect)

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#The%20JonBenet%20Ramsey%20Case:%20Emerging%20Child%20Sex-Ring%20Allegations,%20Political%20Connections%20and%20a%20Suspect

This article and others at the site blame the CIA, etc for pedophilia and for coverups. This is just what AIM did.

As Calhoun mentioned, in March of this year, Boulder detectives flew to San Luis Obispo, California, to interview Mary Bienkowski, a licensed family therapist. Bienkowski claimed to have information pertaining to the JonBenét Ramsey murder investigation. The woman said that her mother's godfather is Fleet White, a friend of John Ramsey. The therapist had urged police in Boulder to interview her client:

Regarding Bienkowski:

CLIENT GAVE BOULDER POLICE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WITNESSES IN JONBENET'S DEATH © 2000 Daily Camera

A private therapist said Friday she stands behind her client who claims to have crucial information that could help investigators in the death of JonBenét Ramsey. Mary Bienkowski, a licensed marriage,

family and child counselor, said her client gave Boulder police specific names of individuals who are witnesses in the killing of JonBenét as well as ongoing sexual and physical abuse of other children.

"If they do their job and investigate what needs to be investigated, the rest of the pieces will fall into place, and nobody is going to like what they find out," she said. "This person wouldn't be coming forward and risking everything if it were not because she wanted the abuse to stop and wanted to protect other children."

Bienkowski said she has treated her client for the past 10 years for trauma endured as a repeated victim of sexual assault. Because her client had information that a widespread sex ring could have been behind the Dec. 26, 1996, strangulation and beating death of 6-year-old JonBenét, she encouraged the woman to take the information to authorities.

JonBenét was found in the basement of her family's Boulder home. Her parents, John and Patsy, are the focus of a police investigation, although the couple have denied involvement in their daughter's death.

After 13 months of investigating the case, a Boulder grand jury disbanded in October without charges being filed. During an interview Friday with the Daily Camera at a downtown San Luis Obispo coffee shop, Bienkowski blasted the Boulder Police Department for not actively investigating the list of people she said her client believes may have knowledge of who killed JonBenét.

She would not divulge the names of those thought to be involved, saying that information should first be given to law enforcement officials. The Whites have not returned phone calls from the Daily Camera. John Ramsey's attorney has declined to comment on the new information.

Boulder police questioned Bienkowski's client in Colorado for five hours. The FBI interviewed her as well. Detectives also contacted her family and interviewed some of them in California. And then the whole matter was dropped. Bienkowski lost faith in the police and refused to cooperate any further.13

Who left warnings on her answering machine? The Daily Times-Call in Longmont, Colorado reported in March that a reliable witness "identified the voices as of two women accused of victimizing the now-37-year-old . The woman remains in hiding."

The anonymous callers told Bienkowski:

1. "Hello Mary. This is a very interested party in regards to welfare. past and her future are of no, of no concern to you. She made an error in judgment when she came to see you and you have caused her nothing but pain and suffering. Her main concern now is her new husband and her family. She has started a life and is going to be moving as far away from you as possible. She belongs with her family and nobody else. She is off limits to you."
2. : "Hello. Leave alone. We take care of our own. Everything. And nothing is any of your business."
3. "Hello. It's high time that you caught on that doesn't have time for your foolishness. Thank you."
4. ]Caller Two] " is going on an extended vacation with her family and while there will seek medical care for her problems. has forgotten more than you will ever know."
5. "Hello. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us. So leave alone. It's against the law to disturb the peace. Don't forget it."14

The statement of the informant that JonBenet was killed in a sadistic sex game was upheld independently by forensic specialist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who studied the autopsy file and concluded that JonBenet's abuse occurred over a period of time.

Wecht: "This evidence of abuse, tied literally and figuratively to the cords around her neck and wrist, was enough to draw the conclusion that a sick sex game had gone awry." But the medical evidence "so far suggested that the vaginal penetration had been a carefully controlled, limited situation ‹ not a savage sexual assaults. While the attacker was applying the perverted use of the garrote that pinched the vagus nerve in her neck and eventually shut down her heart and lungs, the young prey had suddenly turned lifeless without explanation, perhaps literally in her abuser's arms. Wasn't it likely that the shocked and panicking molester had shaken JonBenet in a futile attempt to return her to consciousness? A few anxiety-driven shakes and a 'wake up! Wake up!' had failed to restore her to life, but had inflicted the bruises to the temporal lobes of the brain."15

A panel of pediatric experts assembled from all parts of the country states unanimously that JonBenet had injuries "consistent with prior trauma and sexual abuse." The medical affidavits referred to "past violation of the vagina," "chronic abuse," "evidence of both acute injury and chronic sexual abuse."16

Author Stephen Singular, a Boulder native, believed so strongly that organized pedophilia and child porn lurked behind the murder of the child that he published a book exploring the sex ring angle, Presumed Guilty. According to Singular's publisher, "some highlights of the book suggest that one or both of the Ramsey parents unknowingly exposed their daughter to danger that fateful Christmas night," and reminds, significantly, "human DNA found on her clothing matched nothing found in the Ramsey home"17

Evan Ravitz and Bob MacFarland, Boulder political activists who shared Singular's perspective on the case, gave eight of the grand jurors hearing testimony regarding the death of JonBenet Ramsey excerpts of Singular's book, theorizing that that the girl may have been killed by someone involved in a child pornography ring. Ravitz and MacFarland were cited with contempt of court. Ravitz, wearing a crumpled purple T-shirt, explained to District Judge Roxanne Bailin that the leakers planned on petitioning the D.A.'s office to allow them to testify before the grand jury, and present evidence of corruption in the city, including drug dealing and child pornography possibly "related to the slaying and handling of the Ramsey case." Child porn is "an important line of investigation that we hear Hunter has stayed away from," Ravitz told Judge Bailin.18

But homicide detectives considered this angle a "side theory," yet have acknowledge that the killer "may have been involved in a child pornography ring that operated in or around Boulder and had earmarked JonBenet as a likely subject." The connection to child pornography with child sex murders is by no means original. In 1997, Jeremy Strohmeyer, 18, stalked a seven-year-old girl in a Las Vegas casino before murdering her in a restroom. Strohmeyer was an admitted collector of child pornography. "If the pornography connection is true," the Internet Crime Library observes, "then the murder may have been committed by more than one person as part of a conspiracy."19

The market in Colorado for child prostitution and pornography is a relatively large silent minority. In 1995, the Colorado Department of Human Services filed 5,085 cases of sexual abuse of the 7,931 referred to the agency. Of these,1,160 victims were abused in the state. But the department may investigate a tiny fraction of the actual cases. One-half of one percent of children report sexual abuse, according to Dr. Richard D. Krugman, dean of the University of Colorado Medical School and director of the C. Henry Kemp Center for Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect.20

A) A Brotherhood

In 1997, the Boulder PD contacted Dale Yeager and Denise Knoke at Seraph, Inc. in Berwyn, Pennsylvania ‹ a security consulting firm summarized in sales brochures as "an international company extensive sources throughout Europe, South America, the Middle East, Asia, Eastern Europe, Russia and Africa. Our associates are investigative professionals and former intelligence officers" ‹ and asked them to submit an analysis of the ransom note. Yeager and Knoke claimed without hesitation that Patsy Ramsey was the author, joining the chorus of police and tabloid reporters who kept at the parents, and reported that Psalm 118:27b, interpreted as the source of the $118,000 ransom demand ‹ "Decorate the festival with leafy boughs and bind the sacrifices to be offered with thick cords to the horns of the altar" is commonly cited by "white supremacists," who "use the redemption and sacrifice ideas to form a justification for killings." Despite the neo-nazi nuance, Yeager and Knoke were positively certain that JonBenet's mother forged the kidnap letter. "Our conclusion," Yeager offered, "is that you are investigating a child's murder with ritualistic overtones. Strangulation and sexual assault are most commonly seen in sadomasochism between heterosexual and homosexual adults. "21 On February 27, 2000, Yeager explained to a CBS 2 News reporter, "What we believe was happening in Patsy's mind was that her daughter was losing control, becoming a wild rebel. She felt (her daughter) was becoming evil."22

Patsy Ramsey did not exactly fit the white supremacist profile, and she certainly wasn't known to participate in "ritual murder." Paul Schultz, not incidentally, rings the bell on both counts. He is a member, according to the interviewers of Belinda Schultz, of a "heterodox Christian" cult with Nazi leanings that found its way into the intelligence establishment via the German presence at Tweet Kimball's castle in Sedalia. The occult Brotherhood of the White Temple, as this sect was known, survives and has reportedly evolved into an underground terrorist cell.

The same "faction" that warned Mary Bienkowski to back off? Police investigating the Ramsey case also received warnings. Blood was splashed on Detective Linda Arndt's front door. The mutilated carcass of a cat was left on Steve Thomas's front lawn (if his statements have any credibility, given the flagrant distortions in his book on the case, clearly contrived to widen the umbrella of suspicion that has hung over the parents since the smears began). Sergeant Bob Wilson was at home when four high-powered rounds were fired through his bedroom window and nearly hit him. After these events, "there was no follow-up by the police department" Steve Thomas complains, "which apparently regarded bullets, blood and dead cats as minor" 23

Belinda Schultz has tied her ex-husband to a cultic, "white-supremacist" terrorist underground with domestic intelligence connections and the murder of JonBenet Ramsey but despite his resemblance to the killer's profile, Paul Schultz has not been asked for a sample of his hand-writing.

B) The Belgium Syndrome

The behavior of law enforcement officials and the media has been odd since the 911 call. John Ramsey was the CEO of a key military-industrial subsidiary, Lockheed, and his daughter had been murdered by a group that claimed to "represent a small foreign faction"

(Brotherhood of the White Temple?) Ordinarily, the "Lindbergh Law" requires a "rebuttable presumption" in a high-profile kidnap, particularly one pulled off by terrorists fronting for a "foreign faction," a widely overlooked point raised by journalist Donald Freed, author of Killing Time, a forensic study of the O.J. Simpson case. Notification of the FBI in a murder case involving terrorists is mandatory, and officers in Boulder did contact Washington. But the Bureau did not respond.24 Freed reports that someone in a lofty position assured the FBI and Lockheed Martin Security "prior to the 911 call that any report coming from Boulder "would not affect 'national security,'" and directed to "let the police handle it."25

Freed coined the phrase "Belgium Syndrome" after the recent refusal of Belgian officials and the justice system to respond to a series of child murders, "not because they were involved in the murders, but because they were involved in their own way in pornography, child sexuality and related elements, some of which are not even illegal but all of which would be death sentences for their careers."

Fleet White, in his letter "to the people of Colorado," maintained: "It is our firm belief that the District Attorney and others intend to use the Grand Jury and its secrecy in an attempt to protect their careers and also serve the conflicting interests of powerful, influential and threatening people who have something to hide or protect."26

"Conflicting interest" may explain the inertia of detectives in Boulder when the photo of the young beauty contestant turned up in the home of a child pornographer in Columbus, Ohio suspected of involvement in the abduction of another Colorado girl. James Partin, 35, was arrested in December, 1997 for selling child pornography on the Net. Police searched Partin's home and found a newspaper clipping about the 1983 kidnap of Beth Miller,14, and a map of Idaho Springs marked with several X's. The girl vanished after a jog near her Idaho Springs home, and Partin lived in the area at the same time. Boulder police announced that they would contact the Colorado Bureau of Investigation to learn more about the Ramsey photo in Partin's collection, but a local newspaper reported that they "do not believe that Partin had any involvement" in the slaying. "It's not a high priority," police spokeswoman Leslie Aaholm assured reporters.27 Did the DA's reluctance to question Partin about the JonBenet picture suggest an unwillingness to solve the case?

Pornographic photos of JonBenet were posted on the Internet.28 In his August 6, 1998 resignation letter, Boulder Detective Steve Thomas openly accused then police chief Tom Koby and other officials of sabotaging the case: "During the investigation detectives would discover, collect, and bring evidence to the district attorney's office, only to have it summarily dismissed or rationalized as insignificant. The most elementary of investigative efforts, such as obtaining telephone and credit card records, were met without support, search warrants denied. The significant opinions of national experts were casually dismissed or ignored by the district attorney's office, even the experienced FBI were waved aside." Thomas was ordered not to question certain witnesses, "and all but dissuaded from pursuing particular investigative efforts. Polygraphs were acceptable for some subjects, but others seemed immune from such requests. Innocent people were not "cleared", publicly or otherwise, even when it was unmistakably the right thing to do, as reputations and lives were destroyed. Some in the district attorney's office, to this day, pursue weak, defenseless, and innocent people in shameless tactics that one couldn't believe more bizarre if it were made up."

C) Lawrence Schiller & the Designated Patsy (Ramsey)

Denver reporter Joe Calhoun takes aim at Lawrence Schiller, the made-for-TV "expert" who denounces all sex-ring allegations in shrill terms. "Schiller, along with talk show hosts and the more 'responsible press,' appear to be preparing the public for an indictment of Patsy Ramsey for the murder of her child," Calhoun says. The patsy would be Patsy. "According to a source in Boulder, the script reads that the much physically and mentally traumatized Patsy Ramsey went to her daughter's room that night and found that she had wet the bed and in a fit of exasperation and rage struck the child and accidentally killed her and then was assisted by her husband to try to cover up the crime. " The bed-wetting scenario, repeated in best-selling books on the case and many a talk show, is insupportable upon a moment's reflection: it entails a belief, Calhoun points out, that Patsy Ramsey "stuck her child in the head, killing her, and then tied a garrote around her neck and sexually violated her daughter's corpse to cover up the crime."29

Was it the Belgium Syndrome that inspired Boulder DA Alex Hunter to leak information to the tabloids to destroy his own investigators? "The former lead investigator on the JonBenét Ramsey case," the Denver Post reported on February 16, 1999, "confirmed allegations that Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter enlisted the help of a tabloid reporter to discredit him. Former Boulder police Commander John Eller, who now lives in Florida, said he knew that Hunter had encouraged Globe reporter Jeff Shapiro to dig up dirt on him." In response, Hunter had no comment. "We're not going to get drawn into it," he said. "I simply do not want to get into any kind of discussion that could jeopardize the integrity of what we're doing."30

Another critic of Lawrence Schiller is John Judge, a JFK assassination archivist in Washington, D.C. Judge is convinced that the celebrated author is an intelligence asset: "It was clear to me in interviews when Mailer was asked why he chose to do this book on Oswald, he based it on the fact that Lawrence Schiller had gotten private access to the Minsk KGB files on Oswald and was willing to share those with Mailer . It's hard for me to imagine that Schiller was able to get those kind of documents based on his access to the KGB there or some sort of salesman- ship. I would think that in order to crack that nut, you would have to have some links to current KGB and US intelligence interconnections. Schiller goes back at least as far as 1967 as the source to the very first character assassination attack on the critical community in a book called Scavengers and Critics of the Warren Commission, by Warren Lewis. The subtitle of that book is `Based on an Investigation by Lawrence Schiller.'"31

Did the Belgium Syndrome infect key evidence, cause it to disappear from a paranormal Boulder evidence room? In 1998, the AP reported, "Cops Lost Ramsey Evidence." Seems "authorities reportedly have lost evidence in the murder investigation of JonBenet Ramsey, forcing them to retrace their steps. Detectives have told friends of the Ramseys they no longer have evidence from some nine interviews and palm prints that the friends had given earlier. In one case, evidence from two interviews conducted the day after the 6-year-old's body was found was missing just two weeks later." Naturally, "earlier reports of lost evidence were refuted by police."32
And the so-called "mainstream" press has been manipulated as badly as the tabloids. Chuck Green, an award-winning, 32-year veteran of the Denver Post, believes "the evidence points to the Ramseys' being involved in their daughter's death." So he says, but University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey co-produced a documentary highly critical of the media coverage. Tracy: "Boulder law enforcement put a ring in Chuck Green's nose and led him around on a leash. Law enforcement used the media to build a case that law enforcement knew it couldn't construct in court."33
Hal Haddon, retained by the Ramseys, complained that unknown police sources leaked false, damning information to the media ‹ information "exculpatory" to the Ramseys was not leaked.34

The Boulder Police Department maintains a tight lid on the case. A very tight lid. Officials instructed detectives to keep the investigation to themselves from the start. Detectives are not permitted to take laptops home. One detective, Sgt. Larry Mason, was removed from the case after speaking to reporters. The police refused to release the offense report, the first paperwork filed by officers responding to a call. They suppressed the report legally by filing the report among the detectives' investigative notes. The BPD has also declined to let go of a transcript of Patsy Ramsey's 911 call to report her daughter missing. The tape was also kept from public scrutiny by placing it among the investigative files. A all search warrants, affidavits and inventories involving searches of the Ramseys' Boulder home have been sealed by court order. Even JonBenet's autopsy report was sealed tight.

James J. Brodell, a Metropolitan State College of Denver journalism professor and an expert on Colorado's public records, finds the extreme secrecy "excessive." Without full disclosure, he believes, "the public can't judge how well police are doing their jobs."35

But search warrant documents released by court order state the county coroner concluded during the autopsy that the girl had been "sexually molested." Detective Linda Arndt attended the autopsy, and reported that Boulder County Coroner John Meyer told her that JonBenet "had received an injury consistent with digital penetration of her vagina." 36

Alex Hunter's former shell of "integrity" cracked when it slipped that he had tried to exclude a key witness from testifying before the Grand Jury, one who would side with the Ramseys. Last March, the Rocky Mountain News learned that Hunter's prosecutors attempted to block Lou Smit, the homicide detective hired by the Ramseys, from appearing in court: "Hunter's attempt last year to bar a witness from testifying appears to be unprecedented among metro-area prosecutors." No D.A. in Colorado, to their recollection, had ever gone so far as to obtain a court order to exclude a witness: "I've never heard of it before," said Jefferson County DA Dave Thomas. Prosecutors may advise a Grand Jury, "but they do not have total control." Bob Grant, the DA in Adams County, snorted, "folks" only prevent a witness of Smit's stature from taking the stand when they have ":a particular axe to grind but don't have evidence and just want to spread uncorroborated personal opinion."37

And so the first casualty danced another last waltz.

Notes:

1. Joe Calhoun interview, March 22, 2000.
2. AP release, " Police Accuse Record Producer of Sexual Abuse,"
January 30, 1996. Huey Meaux was sentenced to fifteen years in prison, but became eligible for parole two years later. Meaux, who once worked with B.J, Thomas, Mickey Gilley, Ronnie Milsap Hank Williams and Freddie Fender, was moved from Houston to the prison¹s pre-release unit in Lockhart in March, 1998. Some local officials were shocked by this development. District Judge Mike McSpadden commented, "Two or three years is not a substantial amount of time."
3. George Glynn, "Woman sues producer, alleging years of abuse,"
Houston Chronicle, February 1, 1996.
4. US Treasury release NR 96-10, "OCC Fines Banker and Seeks Prohibition from Banking: Hearing in March," January 29, 1996.
5. See Leonard Louis Capaldi appeal, writ of habeas corpus, Sixth Circuit file. Also, Daniel Brandt's NameBase, "social associates chart," file:///Macintosh%20HD/Desktop%20Folder/Documents/Ramsey %20Case/Jerry%20J.%20Moore%20&%20Associates/Moore% 20Links%20Chart.
6. Susan Casey, "The lady of the castle," Douglas County News-Press, May 8, 1996. Brandt. Also, Pete Brewton, The Mafia, CIA and George Bush, SPI Books, 1992, for background on James Bath and well-heeled Houston Republicans. Brewton: "Jack Trotter, is listed as a reference on Bath¹s resume. A source close to Bath said that Trotter was one of the Houstonians most responsible for introducing Bath around Houston and getting him wired into the right business circles. Bath and Lan Bentsen brokered a number of multi-thousand-acre tracts to syndications formed by Trotter, who was trustee for Senator Lloyd Bentsen¹s blind trust."
7. Ralph McGehee¹s CIABase Web site,
http://webcom.com/~pinknoiz/covert/ ciabasesearch.html
8. Burton Hersh, The Old Boys: The American Elite and the Origins of the CIA, New York: Charles Scribner¹s, 1992, p. 242.
9. Linda DuVal, "Splendor in the Rockies," Colorado Springs Gazette tour guide, 1999..
10. Loring Wirbel, "Confronting the New Intelligence Establishment: Lessons from the Colorado Experience," The Textbook (an environmental quarterly), Southwest Research and Information Center, Fall 1996.
11. Casey.
12. Mike Colias, "County Says Goodbye to Tweet Kimbit.," obituary, Douglas County News-Press, January 20, 1999.
13. Christopher Anderson, "Ramsey Detectives off the California," Boulder Daily Camera, March 5, 2000.
14. B.J. Blasket, Daily Times Call, March 6, 2000.
15. Cyril Wecht, M.D., J.D., and Charles Bosworth, Jr., Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey? Onyx, 1998.
16. Steve Thomas, JonBenet: Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation, New York: St. Martin's, 2000, p. 27.
17. Wendy Walker, New Millennium press release, Beverly Hills, CA, 1999.
18. Anonymous, "Duo cited for mailing Ramsey Chapters," Boulder Daily Camera, July 10, 1999, and Julie Poppen, "Judge gives stern warning to two who contacted jurors," Boulder Daily Camera, August 6, 1999.
19. Anonymous, "Main Event ‹ The Murder of JonBenet Ramsey," The
Crime Library, http://www.dark-horse.com/ramsey/Ramsey5.htm.
20. Elliot Zaret, "Atler Pursues Answers to Incest, Boulder Daily Camera, February 27, 1997, concerning police interviews with Marilyn Van Derbur Atler, a Boulder resident and former Miss America (1958) who recovered repressed memories of sexual abuse in 1991.
21. Dale Yeager, "Profile Report," Seraph, Inc., July 29, 2997.
22. Drew Griffin, interviewer, "A Perfect Murder? Part 1," CBS 2 News
report, February 27, 2000.
23. Thomas, p. 180.
24. Joe Calhoun, "The Book and the JonBenet Ramsey Case: The Sins of
'Perfect Omission,'" Montelibre Monthly, March, 1999.
25. Calhoun, p. 13.
26. Ibid.
27. Anonymous, "JonBenet photo found in home of suspected Ohio pornographer, Boulder Daily Camera, January 8, 1998.
28. Jameson's TimeLine Web site,
http://jameson245.com/oddsandends.htm.
29. Calhoun article.
30. Karen Auge, "Detective accuses DA Hunter," Denver Post, February 16, 1999.
31. See Kenn Thomas, interviewer, Steamshovel Press, no. 14,
32. Anonymous, AP report, "Cops Lost Ramsey Evidence," February, 15, 1998.
33. Katherine Rosman, "JonBenet, Inc.," Brill's Content, February, 2000.
34. Mary George and Marilyn Robinson, "Shy cops did what they did," Denver
Post, September 30, 1997.
35. Charlie Brennan, "Ramsey-case secrecy unusual," Rocky Mountain News, February 9, 1997.
36. George and Robinson.
37. John C. Ensslin, "Hunter's move puzzles legal experts," Rocky Mountain News, March 16, 2000.

I think it makes more sense for Mary B. to pick the records that
pertain to the allegations which were documented prior to JB's murder.

I don't think JB was abused by her father. "Uncle" Johnny was not John Ramsey, but another man who abused her when she was a child. A "John" is also slang for the customer of a prostitute. It would be easy to prove it wasn't John Ramsey from work, school records, etc. I think she added 2+2 and got 5.

I don't think she's a fruitcake. She risked her life to report information she thought might help the investigation. I think she's survivor and very brave to come forward. The victim advocates spoke directly with her and determined she was a victim. Lou Smit & others promised to try to help her. I don't believe her family would admit they were child pornographers & abusers to an Internet "sleuth" or the police.

>The anonymous callers told Bienkowski:

>1. "Hello Mary. This is a very interested party in regards to welfare. past and her future are of no, of no concern to you. She made an error in judgment when she came to see you and you have caused her nothing but pain and suffering. Her main concern now is her new husband and her family. She has started a life and is going to be moving as far away from you as possible. She belongs with her family and nobody else. She is off limits to you."
2. : "Hello. Leave alone. We take care of our own. Everything. And nothing is any of your business."
3. "Hello. It's high time that you caught on that doesn't have time for your foolishness. Thank you."
4. ]Caller Two] " is going on an extended vacation with her family and while there will seek medical care for her problems. has >forgotten more than you will ever know."

Hmmm. From what I have gathered, there was no such husband. Sounds like MW was getting ready to disappear with the help of these anonymous callers. Creeepy.

With the help of a therapist Nancy was able to break away from her past and the people who were responsible for her abuse. As I recall, she came forward to protect other children in the family, not herself. I think she told the truth as she knew it. At least part of her claims were true because her step-uncle went to jail for raping her. If she had no husband, at least part of the caller's message was a lie. It's a he/she/he said situation, and memories tend to fade over time.

The following explanation for the Stockholm Syndrome phenomenon is from the link below.

"The abuser (or captor) terrifies the victim, who cannot escape, by threatening his or her physical or psychological survival. As a result of being terrified the victim needs nurturance and protection. Being isolated from others, the victim must turn to the abuser for this if s/he turns to anyone. If the abuser shows the victim some small kindness this creates hope in the victim, who then ignores her rage at the terror-creating side of the abuser (because this rage would be experienced as overwhelming) and bonds to the positive side of the abuser. With the hope that the abuser will let him or her live, the victim works to keep the abuser happy. In trying to determine what will keep the abuser happy, the victim's own needs, feelings and perspectives must take second place and s/he unconsciously takes on the world view of the abuser. The victim sees the abuser as the "good guy" and those trying to win his/her release (e.g. police or therapists) as the "bad guys", as this is the way the abuser sees things. Over a period of months or years, the victim's entire sense of self may come to be experienced through the eyes of the abuser. The victim may have extreme difficulty leaving the abuser, if the opportunity arises, because s/he no longer sees a reason to do so.

For victims of sexual abuse, their families and therapists, the Stockholm Syndrome is useful in explaining the victim's experiences, current "symptoms" and the relationship between victim and abuser. It can help remove the tendency of the victim to blame him or herself for "allowing" the abuse to continue or for "causing" the abuse. It can also help to make sense of the ways in which the victim's perceptions of themselves and the abuser can be distorted, by explaining those distortions in terms of the Syndrome and making clear their origins as an instinctive survival function."

http://www.secasa.com.au/survivors/the_stockholm_syndrome_1.html

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