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Countrygirl
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Dec-12-03, 03:13 PM (EST)
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"Theory"
 
   I heard part of this in Catherine Crier Live last night, the caller was with the National Enquirer, the theory makes sense to me.

After Scott and Laci went home, she went into the bedroom, hung up per purse, and changed into pj's. Possibly had some hot chocolate, or tea. Went to bed. Sometime in her sleep, Scott smothers her with the pillow. She struggles, and scratches him. He moves her to the warehouse in the night, takes some clothes and changes her. Returns home. Even with a suffocation, there is clean up. As a person dies they release fluids. It would be pretty tough to explain fluids in the bed or on the floor as he moved the body, he mops the kitchen and changes the bed clothes. Gathers things up for the 'fishing' trip, lets the dog out, and is on his way to the warehouse. He logs onto the internet and checks out the tides and currents. He places her body in the tool box in the back of the truck and proceeds to the bay where he dumps her.

This is only a basic theory, I thought some of it up, heard other parts, and evidence supports other parts.

Anyone care to dissect it with me? Help me point out errors, or point out things that the evidence supports.


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rosario_c
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Dec-12-03, 08:43 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Theory"
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   I think everything sounds possible except I think she never changed her clothes. Maybe layed down on her bed as she talked to her mom on the phone,to read, or just to rest. I think she was killed in the clothes she had on that night and found in. I think if Scott took the time to change them, he would remember to say they were the clothes he last saw her in. Am I making any sense? I'm bummed I missed the program.


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DragonFly2
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Dec-15-03, 08:51 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Theory"
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   I agree with Rosario- the clothes would have made a "bigger impression" on him if he had actually dressed her body. Also, I think LE would have found bedsheets or linens in the washer or dryer as well- possibly not, but he could have said Laci had put them in. As I recall, LE said Scott had to take some dirty towels out of the washer to put his fishing clothes in. The towels were found piled on top of the washer.

I don't think he killed her in the bed.


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Countrygirl
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Dec-15-03, 09:37 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Theory"
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   It has been reported that LE did take bed clothes. Blankets, pillows, sheets, mattress liner, dust ruffles. But, they are missing one pillow case.

As far as clothes, I'm not so sure he would have been that careful. Most men really don't pay attention to the exact clothes a woman is wearing. Plus, he may have thought he was slick but in the dark of night, and the anxiety of having just committed a murder, he may have just grabbed the first thing he saw, and has luck would have it, it was the clothes she had worn the night before.

If she was in bed ready to sleep in her pj's, he would have to change her clothes to go along with the dog walking story. She would have to have on 'street' clothes if (and it turns out was) found.


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DragonFly2
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Dec-15-03, 11:51 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Theory"
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   I still think he blugeoned her or possibly strangled her. The reason I believe this is because of her head being missing- I think her neck was broken and that's why her head seperated from her body during decomposition. It's just the fact that her head was gone that makes me believe her neck was broken.

But I just find it hard to believe that if he had to DRESS a dead body he would have remembered better WHAT he had dressed her in. It would have been quite a task to dress her. No, I don't think she was re-dressed after death.

Of course, suffocation is a definite possibility- nearly ANYTHING is at this point- unless there is a confession, I don't think we'll ever know exactly HOW she died.


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Countrygirl
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Dec-15-03, 01:55 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Theory **could get graphic**"
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   The only reason I don't think he blugeoned her is because I would think that by now blood evidence (if there is any) would have been leaked. And I would certainly think that there would be some trace of blood if indeed he hit her hard enough to break her neck and cause death.

If he suffocated her, the pressure of him pushing down on her face could have snapped her neck. I read somewhere that it takes 90 seconds to pass out and 4 minutes (or so) to die when suffocated. 90 seconds is enough for her to struggle and scratch him and that could explain his blood in the truck.

Clothes? maybe she was relaxing on the bed, having a cup of tea, reading a book in the same clothes that she wore that day and never did change into pj's. I can say that when I was pregnant, and to this day when I come home from somewhere, I change out of my good clothes and into pj's or shorts and a t-shirt, and I'm thinking that she may have too in light of the fact that her purse was hanging in the closet of the bedroom. Maybe he should have remembered if he changed her clothes, but all murders make some mistakes, this may just be one of them. It's a fact that she did not leave that house in black pants that morning.


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DragonFly2
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Dec-15-03, 02:44 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Theory **could get graphic**"
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   I was wondering why you are thinking she changed clothes- and now I understand- because her purse was in her closet. Well, actually, I have a tendency to walk to my bedroom and take off my coat, hang it up, and leave my purse in my closet too (It's a walk-in, but I probably would do the same even if it weren't as big as it is). I don't ALWAYS put my purse in my closet, but I do often. Usually if I'm wearing a coat or jacket (which Laci probably would have been that evening since it was December). Also, I do this whether or not I change clothes.... maybe Laci did too.

I still think she was killed in the clothes she wore to the salon.

But you're probably right about bludgeoning- it would have left more evidence. However, I haven't ruled it out in my mind. I keep thinking about the golf clubs.


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Countrygirl
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Dec-16-03, 12:12 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Theory **could get graphic**"
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   The more I think about it, the more I don't think he changed her clothes. She was found in the same clothes that Amy said she was in at the salon. There is no way Amy could have known what clothes she would be found in as she told police 2 months before she was actually found in them. If Laci took the time to hang up her coat and purse, I think she would have also hung up her clothes if she changed into something else. The chances of Scott picking out the same exact clothes that she wore (in my opinion) are slim. Of course this is all guess work, she may have tossed her clothes on the hamper or across the footboard, or possibly on the floor, we didn't live with her and don't really know her habits. Am I making sense?

I wonder if once police found her body and realized that she had on the tan slacks, not black as Scott said, if that was the perverbial straw that broke the camel's back. They then had proof that Laci never left that house in black slacks to walk the dog. That the witness's that saw a lady in black slacks with a dog could not have seen Laci. That she probably didn't live through the night to even put on her pj's. That may have been the one last piece of evidence that they needed to get the arrest warrant. I believe that until that moment, there was still a remote possibility that she did leave in black slacks, that those people did see her with the dog, and someone did kidnap her.

JMO


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Dec-16-03, 01:19 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Theory **could get graphic**"
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   I agree, CountryGirl. Maybe that was what took away any small doubts left for police.


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Dec-19-03, 07:41 AM (EST)
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9. "Theory spelled out"
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   Last night in a grocery store line I checked out one of the rag mags that had a headline something like "Laci was suffocated". I opened it up and scanned it quickly, but didn't buy it 'cause I hate those rags and don't want to support them in the way they harass celebs and such. Anyway, it seemed to be the same thing CountryGirl began this thread about:

The article basically said that Laci was suffocated after she went to bed- evidence that points to this is the fact that one pillowcase was missing (Scott disposed of it with body because it got damaged during struggle). Also it said that Scott & Laci had an argument probably earlier in evening, bad enough that Laci threw up (traces of vomit and blood found on mop).

Also says that a bag with Laci's pajamas was found during the two-day search, and the top she wore to the salon was found in dresser drawer, inside out and crumpled on top of clean clothes (and it was said that Laci would have never put a dirty top in with clean clothes).

Also Laci's body- said that Scott tied the drawstring of her tan maternity pants extremely tight over top of her belly (under breasts) and then duct-taped her thighs tightly together to prevent baby being spontaneously expelled before he could dispose of her body.

Also said that during the first-day search for Laci, Scott struck up a conversation with mother of one of Laci's friends, and mentioned that "if the police find blood in the house, it doesn't mean anything, because I work outdoors and I'm always getting cut up". They say he went to unusual lengths to begin explaining away any blood they might find before they found any.

Of course, one must always consider the source of this info......

I guess we'll find out at trial if any of this evidence is real.


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Dec-21-03, 07:28 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Theory spelled out"
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   Hmm...a pillow case missing? Not so easy to tell if a pillow is missing as who knows how many pillows anyone has in their house. The guy had a loaded gun in his truck. My guess is that he shot her in the head while she slept, using a pillow to muffle the sound of the shot. If the bullet didnt exit the other side of her head, any blood would have been contained on the pillow.IF he planned to kill her, he would go for the surprise attack...wouldnt he? Its not as if he would say 'ok babe...Ive made up my mind, now hold still while I strangle you'...
Why didnt he dispose of the gun? Its disappearance would have been hard to explain if someone had seen the gun in his possesion shortly before Laci died. Anyway, he had anchored her body down in deep water, 100 miles away...he wasnt counting on anyone finding her body and digging out the bullet. Lucky for him, her head had detached...


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Countrygirl
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Dec-21-03, 01:38 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Theory spelled out"
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   Only a pillow case missing. If he shot her thru a pillow, the pillow would also have a hole in it. And, there would be blood in the bed, gunshots to the head bleed... a lot. No blood found.

I'm sticking with suffocation. Maybe the pillow case had a tear or mark where she bit it...

I'm pretty sure if that loaded gun had been fired they could have told, and the swabs of his hands would have been tested.

And that information would have been leaked...

JMO


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sooty
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Dec-22-03, 11:06 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Theory spelled out"
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   If they dont have the pillow, how do they know if there's a hole in it or not?


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Dec-23-03, 03:54 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Theory spelled out"
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   They have the pillow. They can't find the pillow case (cover).


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