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"Magazine: Baby may have been full term"
 
   People magazine analyzed facts and talked to several sources in their investigation into the Laci and Scott Peterson case. The investigating team reveals what they found.

The magazine says the physical condition of the baby's body suggests he may have died at a different time than Laci - and could have been full-term.

Also - the team says Scott Peterson's reddish hair at the time of his April arrest was the result of a professional dye job - not pool chlorine as he first had claimed. The magazine also reports a break-in at a neighbor's house may have happened at the same time as Laci's disappearance.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2439852/detail.html


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1. "RE: Magazine: Baby may have been full te"
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   What facts? They don't have any more facts than anyone else.

I think we will see at trial that Conner died minutes after Laci did, and that he stayed in her body until a few days before his little body was found on shore.

I was watching "The disappearance of Laci Peterson" yet again, and baden says on that show that she could have been dismembered by being anchored down, the strain on the bobbing limbs would have let go with decomposition of the body.


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2. "Magazine: Baby may have been full term"
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   A defense team that included renowned forensic experts Drs. Henry Lee and Cyril Wecht conducted an examination of the remains earlier this month.

After that exam, prosecutors and the defense agreed to allow defense experts to X-ray Conner, whom officials described as a "full-term baby" when his remains were found.

We knew that bit about the hair color. It was a professional job, however it may have lightened in a chlorinated pool. Scott Peterson gave a quick answer to the newspaper hounds, thats all it was

MPD said they cleared those responsible for the robbery across the street...yeah, that was fast. Why?


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3. "RE: Magazine: Baby may have been full te"
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   Not being employed by People magazine, I personally don't know what facts they have or what their sources said. I can say that this is not the first time I have heard that the baby could have been full term.

I think we will hear BOTH theories at trial, one will say that the baby died on/near/about 12/23-24 same as Laci, and yet another will say that he survived longer and matured to full term. We may also hear that both lived past Christmas. Unless someone witnessed their last heart beat, there is no way to prove the exact time of death. It will be based on professional opinions, of which I'm sure we will hear plenty.


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4. "RE: Magazine: Baby may have been full te"
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   And we need to remember that the "Official" that declared Connor "full term, or near full term" was a police officer and not an expert, such as a neonatologist or Pediatrician.


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5. "x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   Momof6, do you know if the doctors routinely 'save' the sonograms? Also, is it like a snap shot or a video? I've never had one done and am wondering. Last but not least, are they in 'real-size' or smaller/bigger?

I've heard that the xrays may be compared to a sonogram that Laci had on Dec 23 in an attempt to show a difference in the size on the 23rd, and the current size of the baby.


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6. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-28-03 AT 05:40 PM (EST)
 
Yes, OB/GYN's do save the information from ultrasounds in the medical file of the expectant mother. A text print out of all information is stored on computers, as well as in paper form in their files.

The doctor would have a copy or picture of the ultrasound photo of Conner as well as the ultrasonographer's comments and studies, or findings at the time of the ultrasound., including but not limited to the mother's EDC. (expected date of confinement, commonly known as the "due date" for the baby)

This report would contain all measurements taken of the baby, as well as the amniotic fluid levels, the placement of the placenta and any effacement or thinning of the cervix, if they did a vaginal ultrasound.

It would also say whether or not Conner was at the stage where he would have survived a birth at the time of the ultrasound, as the ultrasound can and sometimes does record the baby's "breathing movements" while still inside the mother's womb.

Some physicians also have a video taped copy of the actual ultrasound.

Hope that helps.


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7. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   Thank you very much! That helps a lot.

If an ultrasound was done on 12/23 I'm thinking 2 things. Maybe Laci's due date was changed and they just hadn't told the family yet. I remember there being some confusion as to her 'correct' due date. Scott said one thing and her family said another.

Second, the ultrasound should be exactly identical to the body if they were indeed murdered 12/24, and that shouldn't be any problem to prove since there should be some very accurate data at the OB's office from only 24 hours or so before police say they were murdered.

If indeed Scott murdered Laci and Connor because he didn't want a baby, wouldn't be ironic if that very same baby was the piece that puts him on death row?


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8. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   I remember that when I had my ultrasounds done, they measured the baby's skull from certain points and also the femur. I was told that by these measurements, they can get an exact date of the baby almost down to the day. I remember my ultrasound saying I was 21 weeks, 4 days. When my friends baby was born premature, they concluded that she was 28 weeks 2 days. So, I think if they used those same type of measurements on the baby they will know. I think a police office saying it was full term was due to ignorance. Did he mean it had all of its limbs, fingers and toes? Which a very preemie baby has. Or was it due to size? Which still wouldn't really matter, since babies are born at all different weights and could be considered preemie or overdue to the baby's age, not size. I still believe the baby "looked" older than it was due to bloating.

I think People Magazine knows didly squat. We'll all have to wait to hear it in the trial. And of course remember these are "paid" experts from both sides. Which ones will be more convincing?


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9. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   I had a sonogram on my due date. They measured his bones, I believe arm and leg bones and cranium.

THE SONOGRAM DONE AT 40 WEEKS, TOLD THEM MY BABY WAS 7 1/2 POUNDS OR SO.

MY SON WAS BORN 7 DAYS LATER, AND WEIGHED 9 LBS., 9 OZ.!

Therefore, I do not believe the sonograms are very accurate.

X-Rays would be a different story.


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10. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-29-03 AT 06:55 AM (EST)
 
Sonograms are not great at calculating the weight of a baby. They are often off by up to 1600 grams or more.

And ultrasounds are less accurate the further you are in the pregnancy, regarding fetal gestational age. The most accurate time for due date testing is between 18-22 weeks gestation. After that, it becomes more and more inaccurate because not every baby grows at the same rate.

I think that the officer on the scene referred to Connor as full term because he saw an entire baby, one that resembled a newborn...

As mentioned before, Laci would have been getting ready to do her gestational diabetes test with her OB/GYN and if she did have gestational diabetes, that would cause Conner to be bigger in size than most babies at the same gestational age. (Babies born to gestation diabetes moms are much heavier and larger in general) This would account for the baby appearing to be full term to an officer. Even a baby born at 28 weeks gestation to a mother that has gestational diabetes, could in accuality, weigh five pounds or a little more, and had they had the opportunity to go to full term would have weighed over nine pounds.

Everyone also needs to remember, that a baby that is born at 28-30 weeks gestation, is fully developed, all the baby needs is weight, so for all intense purposes, the baby would appear "full term" because it was fully developed at the time Laci died, Conner just needed more weight on him.


In fact, in the last month and a half of pregnancy, it is stated that babies gain an average of one half pound per week. So you figure that the normal average full term baby weighs 7 pounds 4 ounces. Now, take away just a month a half's weight, that would be:


7 lbs. 4 ozs.
- 3 lbs. 0 ozs.
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4 lbs. 4 ozs birth weight at 32 weeks gestation.

Conner was around 28-30 weeks gestation.

He would have appeared full term, but not had the weight on him, which they could have easily dismissed as decomposition, or at least a police officer would have.


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11. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   Good Morning, Momof6.

I appreciate your information and expertise. Thanks. I am in total agreement with you, Conner died within minutes after his mother.

I thought Laci was 33 weeks along? From the looks of Laci in photos, she was quite big. Maybe Conner would have been a big baby at birth.


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12. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   I too appreciate momof6's expertise in this area. I agree, there are just far too many factors for anyone to completely agree on Conner's gestational "age".

And as far as how "big" Laci was, we all know that doesn't really mean much. My sis-in-law (who is normally a size 4 or 6) just had a baby, and she was HUGE, I mean really unbelievably HUGE, so much so that everyone kept saying the docs must have "missed" a twin....and her baby only weighed 6 lbs 9 oz. My last baby weighed 8 lbs 4 oz, I'm normally a size 6, and I didn't appear nearly as big as she did. It's all in how you're built- My sis-in-law is pretty short, maybe 5'3"- while I'm 5'8". Laci was short, wasn't she? That can make a big difference.....


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13. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-29-03 AT 11:09 AM (EST)
 
Hard to say how far along she was...

20 wks is normally considered 5 months along.
24 wks is normally considered 6 months along.
28 wks is normally considered 7 months along.
32 wks is normally considered 8 months along.
36 wks is normally considered 9 months along.
Doctors consider 38 wks a full term pregnancy.

However, this is based on each month having only four weeks. There are ten lunar (28 day) months in a pregnancy, that is how they come up with 40 wks gestation. Technically, at 36 weeks pregnant, a woman is beginning her ninth month of pregnancy. But remember, when a woman says that she is six weeks pregnant, the fetus itself is only around three and a half weeks gestation. The physician counts weeks beginning with the first day of the woman's Last menstrual period, and not from the date of conception.

It is thought that Laci was somewhere between 7 and 8 months pregnant, which would be "around" 30 weeks.

So, if you figure the average baby weighs 7lbs. 4 ozs. then we can subtract about a half pound a week from 40 wks... which puts Conner weighing somewhere around 3 1/2 - 4 1/2 pounds around the time that Laci died.


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14. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-29-03 AT 11:12 AM (EST)
 
It would be interesting to know how much his remains weighed.

Wasn't it reported that her cervix was closed?


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15. "RE: x-rays vs. sonogram"
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   Yes, it was reported that Laci's cervix was closed. If that is the case then a vaginal birth did NOT occur. However, Baden said that he did not read from the report that there were any man made scars on Laci's abdomen. Others also said that it was possible for her stomach to have opened due to gases and that Connor floated free from her body.


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16. "RE: Magazine: Baby may have been full te"
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   The magazine also reports a break-in at a neighbor's house may have happened at the same time as Laci's disappearance.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BREAK-IN. THIS IS SUSPICIOUS.


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17. "Expert vs. Expert"
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   Disturbing new evidence in the Laci Peterson (search) murder case suggests she gave birth to son Conner — who was alive before he was killed and his body trussed in a plastic bag, it was reported Thursday.

Autopsy photos show that the infant's body was well-preserved, unlike his mother's decayed remains, People magazine (search) reports. Because of the difference in decomposition, "There is some evidence the child may have been born alive," a source told the mag.

Laci's husband, Scott Peterson (search), is standing trial in California for double murder, and both the prosecution and defense are gearing up for a Sept. 9 preliminary hearing.

The possibility that the baby was out of the mother's womb and alive was also bolstered by the fact that Connor's body did not have his umbilical cord or his placenta, People says.

Earlier reports revealed that the baby had a cut across his right shoulder and adhesive tape around his neck.

The tape was drawn under the left arm and across the chest to the right arm, leading to speculation the baby had been placed in a plastic bag and that someone had wrapped the tape around it.

The bodies of Laci and Connor washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April, about four miles from the marina where Scott Peterson, a fertilizer salesman, told police he went out alone on a fishing trip the day before Christmas.

Not all experts agree Connor was born alive.

Dr. Gregory Schmunk, Santa Clara's chief medical examiner, said the most logical explanation is that Laci's decomposing body caused Connor to be forced out.

But Jon Nordby of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences doesn't buy that scenario.

"I doubt very much that would be something you could attribute to a natural process," he said. "I would be puzzled by the fact that the mother would be in such an advanced state of decay and the baby would be more well preserved and have that tape."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96002,00.html


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18. "The tape on Conner"
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   <<Earlier reports revealed that the baby had a cut across his right <<shoulder and adhesive tape around his neck.

This was news to me! In all prior reports, it has been stated that the "tape" found around Conner's neck was a plastic tape. In fact, someone even stated it was a film-type tape such as would be used for a recording.

If it was indeed adhesive tape, then it seems to me that it could have been used to tape the plastic bag closed (there were parts of a plastic bag found with his body) or to tie (tape) the body in the bag.


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19. "The tape on Conner"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-02-03 AT 05:17 PM (EST)
 
"The tape was drawn under the left arm and across the chest to the right arm, leading to speculation the baby had been placed in a plastic bag and that someone had wrapped the tape around it."

This is the first that I've heard about tape on his body, we all heard 1 1/2 wraps around the neck, but this is news to me. I wonder if there are two different pieces, one that was around the neck and one around his torso, or one long piece that extended around his neck, under the left arm and across his chest and to his right arm.

From www.nbc4la.com:

"Gleick also talked about reports that there may have been tape wrapped around Conner's neck. Although the presence of the tape could be attributed to debris from the water, Gleick told the "Today" show, "Our look at the photographs shows that the tape was actually wrapped around 1˝ and that there was a knot in the tape and it was across the baby's chest...it doesn't necessarily look like debris." "

Note: { Knot } not twist, turn, or what you would expect from a body being moved about in currents...

His body was also found above the tide-line. That's weird, how did he get there??


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20. "RE: The tape on Conner"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-02-03 AT 07:44 PM (EST)
 
It was also reported that there were NO MARKS found on Conner's neck. It was speculated by both Baden and Lee that it was debris floating in the ocean and not used to murder Conner. It was also said that Laci's body may have been tied and when Conner floated free from her body, that he became entangled in it.

Baden and Lee both commented as well on the cut on Conner, and they both said they felt the cut was also from debris in the ocean or when he was washed ashore on the rocks. The cut was made post mortem, and not while Conner was alive. ( this would mean there was no evidence that he was ever alive outside of Laci's body. If laci were jabbed by something in the ocean, it could have penetrated her abdomen and hit Conner)

Of course Conner was better preserved than Laci. He was entombed in her body until just days before he came free from her body. At least that was their speculation.


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21. "Above the tide-line...interesting..."
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   Note{ Knot } not twist, turn, or what you would expect from a body being moved about in currents...

His body was also found above the tide-line That's weird, how did he get there??


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22. "Tape also interesting"
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   These disclosures might be significant to whether Conner was born alive. The tape has always been described as a film-type tape that was probably from debris in the bay. Now, they say it is adhesivetape, a big difference. While film-type tape might be easily explained as being part of debris in the water, I don't see how adhesive tape--especially such a long piece--could have been floating freely in the bay. Medical waste?? That's probably what they'll say next.


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23. "RE: Tape also interesting"
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   There is also a possibility that Laci herself was tied with whatever tape her killer could find... medical or adhesive tape can be found in almost any medicine cabinet.


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24. "Momof6"
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   <<There is also a possibility that Laci herself was tied with <<whatever tape her killer could find... medical or adhesive tape can <<be found in almost any medicine cabinet.

If that be the case, then why has there been no mention of adhesive tape being found on Laci's body? It would seem chancy that any tape on Laci would find its way to Conner's body. Especially if it is adhering to a plastic bag, also. It was my understanding from the article that the adhesive tape was stuck to a plastic bag as well as Conner's body. From this, it would appear that Conner was placed in the bag and then the bag was sealed with adhesive tape.


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25. "RE: Momof6"
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   Her limbs broke away, when she finally floated to the top of the water she may have rid herself of the rest of the tape.

When the limbs broke away the tape may have gone with it except what Conner tangled in.

There are many different scenerios.

Plus, we haven't heard any evidence yet, tape may be among the things found on her somewhere. Or, they could have found the same tape found on Conner in the home. They could match the ends easily to determine if it is the same used on Laci or Conner, if that is the case.


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26. "RE: Momof6"
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   Here's a scenario- Scott kills Laci, by accident, when they argue about his affair.....Scott, in a panic, tries to deliver his unborn son by crude c-section....but the baby is dead. He didn't mean to do it, but now it's all gone too far and he has to get rid of their bodies....and he tries to tape Conner back into his mother's body- a final act of remorse....

Far-fetched? Maybe.....just thinking out loud I guess.....


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27. "Thinking out loud"
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   I was thinking along the same lines except that maybe he put Conner in a bag, not back into Laci.

This could explain why he is in much better condition, and could explain why Laci's upper internal organs are gone.


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28. "RE: Thinking out loud"
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   I didn't know her upper internal organs were gone. I guess MG thinks that has to do with satanic rituals......

But it's good to know I'm not the only one with an "overactive imagination", as my Mom liked to put it.....


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29. "RE: Thinking out loud"
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   They weren't missing, they were decomposed, disintergrated...or at least that is what Baden had said.

I could be wrong.


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