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DragonFly2
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Dec-29-03, 12:40 PM (EST)
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"Baby Theory played out for REAL for this"
 
   Body of missing Okemah woman found in a ditch in Hughes County

The family of a missing Okemah woman talks about the baby, and the future she'll never have.

It's a bizarre case that's taken authorities to Okfuskee and Hughes Counties. Authorities say 21-year-old Carolyn Simpson of Okemah may have been killed for her baby.

Simpson had been missing since last Monday. Her body was found in a Hughes County ditch by a hunter. She'd been shot in the head.

Authorities say her attacker carved her baby from her body. Simpson's family is in shock over what's happened. "Disbelief that um something so horrible and brutal could happen to someone and you know how someone could take her life and her baby's life." Dustie McGrew says her sister-in-law recently moved to Okemah from Kansas to start a family with her new husband. Carolyn wasn't supposed to be able to get pregnant because of health problems. And she was looking forward to her 'miracle child.'"

Family members in Kansas say the baby meant everything to her, and her last days were full of life. "Never had an enemy. You know she was the type to give you her last dollar, you know if you needed it. She was always there for you whenever you needed her."

37-year-old Effie Goodson is being held as a material witness, but has not been charged. She is currently in the Hughes County jail in Holdenville.

Goodson was seen leaving the Creek Nation Casino in Okemah, where she worked with Simpson on Monday. Then she showed up at a Holdenville hospital the next day with a fetus. She claimed it was hers. But doctors determined Goodson could "not" have given birth. Witnesses say Goodson told "them" she was getting ready to have a baby.


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Dec-29-03, 12:44 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Baby Theory played out for REAL for"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-03 AT 01:43 PM (EST)
 
I know this doesn't really have anything to do with Laci, except for the fact that at the beginning this is what some people believed may have happened to her.....when I read this story I thought of Laci right away. Of course, we know now that no one took Laci in order to keep her baby for their own....

This is so sad. This awful sick woman apparently worked with Carolyn....Carolyn's family is in my prayers.

Edited to add: this story doesn't tell you this, but the fetus also died. I read that part on ABCnews.com.


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2. "RE: Baby Theory played out for REAL for"
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   Sick, sick people.


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3. "Strictly Evil People !"
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   How many are there ? So many, so evil they can't be counted !

A case similar to Simpson happened near Sacramento, California a couple years ago: A single mother-to-be was taken in by her Aunt.

Apparently they had an agreement that the Aunt, a nurse who was childless would adopt the baby. There were arguments and the niece was going to leave, the deal was OFF. So enraged, the Aunt murdered the young girl, cut the baby out. The baby was either born dead or died shortly after. The Aunt tossed the baby (dumpster ? I can't recall ) where it was discovered. Aunt arrested. Evil !

Robert Durst, heir to billions, and whose young wife disappeared years ago from New York was on the run when he learned that the investigation into her disappearance was re-opening. Durst changed his appearance, (cross dresser) moved into an apartment in Texas where he met Morris Black, a tenant in the same complex. Morris partial remains were found in the bay in Texas. Durst ran and later was arrested for shoplifting a sandwich in another state. Gotcha! An excellent book, 'A Deadly Secret', available at your favorite book store or library.

Morris Black's head was never found, but Durst said that they struggled over a gun...he said it was an accident. The trial ended recently....charged with manslaughter. Durst was not on trial for disposing of Morris Black's body.

As for Laci Peterson, like Morris Black, partial remains found. Laci's head has not been found and we don't know the cause of death. We do not know as fact if the baby, ( which may have appeared as full term when it was found on the path near the bay water), was removed or how the baby became separated from Laci.


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4. "RE: Strictly Evil People !"
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   Yes, there are horribly evil people out there. A few years ago I watched on (Oprah? Maury? Jenny Jones?) an interview with a man whose wife had been kidnapped out of the parking lot of her obstetrician. The woman who took her drove her into the mountains, used ether to knock her out (but keep her breathing) and then cut her baby girl out. She even smeared the mother's blood on her inner thighs, and then drove straight to a hospital where she claimed to have just given birth. She refused to be examined, just wanted the baby checked out, but of course the hospital insisted and her crime was discovered.

The interview was mainly about how this brave man was carrying on raising his little girl without her mother who was taken in such a brutal way. At the time of the interview, the girl was about 5 years old (they didn't have her on camera, just pictures of her). But the interview also focused on what drove this woman to do such a horrific thing. Her ex-friends spoke of how she tried to get pregnant for years, then how she announced her "pregnancy", wore maternity clothes and acted pregnant, (she was a bit over weight so it was hard to tell for sure), but after about fourteen months, still hadn't had a baby and of course everyone was wondering what was going on with her. She was apparently driven by desperation to finish out her elaborate lie by producing the baby everyone, including her husband, was expecting.

Like Ladybug said, pure evil.


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Dec-30-03, 09:39 AM (EST)
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5. "Memorial Fund set up"
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   ‘Always Had a Smile’
Family of Slain Pregnant Woman Remember Her Trusting Nature

H O L D E N V I L L E, Okla., Dec. 30 — The hunter who stumbled upon the body of a slain woman on a remote farm could have never imagined the sordid story behind her gruesome death.

The body of 21-year-old Carolyn Simpson was found Friday with a gunshot wound to the head, her abdomen sliced open and her fetus removed.

Police say the gruesome slaying was the work of 37-year-old Effie Goodson, a woman who knew Simpson and who had convinced her husband and friends that she, too, was pregnant.

Investigators say Simpson and Goodman met at a tribal casino in Okemah, where Simpson worked, about one month ago. Investigators believe the two left the casino together last Monday because Simpson needed a ride home. That was the last time Simpson was seen.

Goodman, however, showed up the next day at a Holdenville hospital with a dead fetus, which had reached six months gestation.

Hughes County Assistant District Attorney Linda Evans said Goodson claimed to be the mother, but investigators determined she could not have given birth, and she was taken into custody.

"I've seen a lot of really tragic cases where there have been people that have acted in mean, evil ways and this is one of those cases," Evans said.

Simpson's aunts, Dianne and Cathy, who asked that their last names not be used, said Simpson's trusting and kind nature could have ended up hurting her in the end.

"She is very friendly and outgoing and trusting and that's what I think got her in trouble," Cathy said.

Her aunt Dianne said the family has been blown away by the loss of Simpson and her unborn baby. "She was such a sweet girl. She liked everbody and always had a smile on her face," Dianne said.

Dianne and Cathy say Simpson may have been able to save the life of her father, who is in need of a new kidney. Now they say they worry they will lose him too.

Goodson now faces two first-degree murder charges and a kidnapping count in the slaying of Simpson and the fetus.

Dep. Wayne Metcalf of the Hughes County Sheriff's Office said Goodman's husband and others truly believed she was expecting.

"She did have a baby shower, and she told everybody she was due to have a baby boy, that was what we found during our investigation," Metcalf said.

Oklahoma courts have ruled that murder charges can be filed in the killing of a fetus if it can be proved that the fetus could have survived outside the womb. Under the state's abortion law, a fetus is presumed viable after the 24th week.

Goodson is expected to be appear in court on the charges Tuesday.

Simpson's family has set up a fund in her memory.

Simpson Memorial Fund
Carroll County Trust Company
2 South Folger
Carrollton, Mo. 64633


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